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Delete some PM:s brah

Great write up. Just on this, can I ask:
1. How long has this arrangement been going on so far?
2. How often do you usually see her? ie. is it around once a week or more, or do you sometimes go a month without seeing each other etc.
3. Who initiates the meet ups? ie. is it say 70% you 30% her, or 100% you
4. Do you think she's looking/hoping for more from you? Cooking for you might seem trivial, but it might hold alot more significance to her.
5. Do you ever hint, either implicitly or explicitly that it may turn into something more at some point?
6. How much time do you spend together outside of sex? ie. if you go over to her place for sex, do you phuck for an hour or two, maybe with a small break or two in between rounds and then leave or do you hang out for longer and chat etc?
7. What would you rate her looks /10?

EDIT: oh and almost forgot 8. How old is she?

1. The arrangement is quite new. Less than a month so far.
2. We see each other once a week if it is convenient for both of us. Has not been more.
3. Given that it's only happened four times so far, its tough to say. I'd say it feels like about 50/50 at this point.
4. I don't think so. Her profile specifically said she was just looking for a regular hookup. Our first time hanging out was just a coffee date and a walk to see if we liked each other. She said afterwards that she was unsure about going forward because there wasn't really any chemistry. I agreed, but then we said that's probably perfect if it's just going to be sex. We don't really talk about much of anything other than sex and very basic small talk.
5. I do not.
6. Last time was the first time we had hung out at all post-sex when she made the pizza. We had talked about that beforehand that we'd do lunch, so it wasn't a surprise gesture.
7. Great body. Petite Asian girl that actually has an ass and teds with a slim waist. Face is not bad, but if you're not into Asian women, you'd probably rate a lot lower. I happen to really like Asians. Overall 6.5 I'd say.
8. 28

Awesome man, thankyou for the info. Repped.

If you're still in this thread when it ends can you let us know how long it lasted under the current arrangement and why it ended. I'm curious. Or if it changes to something more, ie. she puts pressure on you to start taking her out once in a while etc. Obviously anything like this has a shelf life but I'm trying to work out how long it can last.

Knowing a relatively high percentage of profiles on this forum are here to spread disinformation.

Seeing someone with zero credibility espouse these gender reversal ideals.

Occam’s razor. If brah isn’t a communist trying to destroy the culture, he’s close enough to use as an example. Perhaps brah is what he says. Hard to believe. Who has access to yacht clubs etc and still goes the beta bucks route on tinder?

Using an app that matches users based on their attractiveness, how is a super model even seeing brahs cards? The amount of girls that stop to view his profile based on perceived value isn’t enough to raise an Elo score to reach a super model’s bracket.

In before I’m called insane for asking reasonable questions regarding an unreasonable poster.

You brahs need to stop taking things on this forum at face value. There are people here trying to ruin your lives. This is the place where brainwashed betas find their true self, I’m not the only one that recognizes this. Pay attention to the people that name call/say something is stupid/make chit first post replies to a thread containing information in an attempt to ridicule the OP. Same people every time. If you’re looking for evidence outside, check out my fellow white people meme. Connect the dots yourself.

Obviously the Italians...







...also, do stromfronters call you a cultural marxist for dating outside your race and giving blacks and Asians tips on how to smash white girls using a hookup app?

I'd reckon thanks to your advice and responses ITT you've helpedat least10-20 biracial pregnancies take place out of wedlock.

Also I don't know much about kinesthetic/body language or whatever you call in this situation, but i got a date who wants to meet up tonight and told me she couldn't make her yoga class today but asked me to help her out on her yoga session. Think she wants the D or just mind games?

Also I don't know much about kinesthetic/body language or whatever you call in this situation, but i got a date who wants to meet up tonight and told me she couldn't make her yoga class today but asked me to help her out on her yoga session. Think she wants the D or just mind games?

not Tinder related, but my ex broke up with her BF a couple days ago and slid into my Insta DM's.
I got her out for coffee and back to my place to smash within the same day. Feeling good boyos.

What's the latest opener everyone's using? my game is improving and I wanna capitalize.

what im currently working with with tinder gold and a boost last night
awesome

I'll be going on vacation in a couple of weeks for about 10 days to a medium sized city in the US. Plan to get Plus and spoof a couple days prior to try and set up some smashes for while I'm down there. If I'm strictly looking for a ONS (I don't mind going for drinks first), do you think it would help or hurt to have a shirtless selfie with my physique?

I don't have Snap. When a girl on Tinder ask to talk over snap (without any innuendos prior) what is she trying to get at? Is she lowkey trying to sext or do people actually have full on conversations on Snap? I thought ppl just use it like IG stories?

I already know the kind of things she is into, so no need to have any direct talk. Thought I'd have a bit of light chat then ask for the meet-up, rather than scare away with aggressive talk like last time. A little surprised by her response. She matched me again, and brought up that she sees me all the time, and will say hi next time she does... but turned down a meeting? Doesn't feel hopeless yet, but I'm struggling to figure out her game plan.

Will go NC until she messages back or says hi in the gym. Not sure what approach to take if she actually does initiate contact either way? Also, was there a better route to take with the convo?

I did say it wasn't going to be all that likable. Gaming here with these sorts of women is very boring. The conversations aren't witty and exciting, so they're not much fun to read, but a big part of game is calibrating it to both the girl and the environment while being congruent with the sort of image you project. Some 20 yo frat bro gaming an 18 yo sorority girl in a small US college town is going to have to take a completely different approach than a suited up 30 something gaming fashion models in a world city. Likewise the 20 yo frat bro's competition is usually other 20yo frat bro's.

Clown game of the old school 'sneakyninjapants' era was extremely entertaining to read, but it just isn't going to cut it on an international model in one of the most expensive cities on earth when your competition is high flying businessmen, professional athletes, famous entertainers etc. Those are literally the types of people I am competing against, so this may not be as entertaining as frat bro's tucker max style clown game, but it's effective in this environment.

One of my current side girls has phucked half of the NRL, for example.

Besides you have to remember that the next guy is talking about his Ferrari or the ski trip he just took in the swiss alps or sending her a link to his acting reel etc.


Yes, but making sure she knows you have status/value/money smoothly (ie. without being autist and saying something like 'I'm rich') is a big part of game. Pumping your perceived LMS (looks/money/status) is probably the single most important part of game online. We spend so much time taking and looking for the most aesthetic pic to pump our L but then so many people forget about M and S, and for a model who is surrounded by male models offering her cawk, all day, every day, L is alot less imortant than the other two, because L is already abundant in her life.


You can always lie. If you're intending to keep a girl around it's probably not a good idea, but dangling some fake wealth carrot and pretending you have a queue of girls who are all hoping they're the one you're going to pick to take with you on your vacation to a luxurious tropical resort all expenses paid, is a great way to get a same night bang from a girl who thinks she needs to put out to still be a contender.

In previous discussions on what 'game' is, we came to probably the best definition, which is:Game is any calculated action taken with the intent of influencing someone else into doing what you want them to do.

So in fact, even some hopeless beta befriending girls and trying to ride out the friend zone for 2 years while being a 'super nice guy' to try and get her to recognize him is running game, albeit horrible game with a depressingly low ROI.

Every single message in that chat by me had a purpose, I dropped my DHV's, lead the conversation to the close, then closed. It was all deliberate. It was game.

If some guy tells a girl who's looking to get married he intends to marry her to get the lay, then pumps and dumps, he just gamed her. If some guy tells a girl he's going to pay her $1000 for sex then uses a fake banking app to 'transfer' her the money then pumps and dumps, he just gamed her (ever seen the movie 'catch me if you can'?). If some producer tells a girl he might have a part for her in an upcoming movie but he's not entirely convinced if she's right for the role 'hint, hint' and pumps her on the casting couch then never talks to her again, game.

Those things might not be ethical, and I for one don't really agree with those methods (although some girls probably deserve to get played that hard), but it's still game.

If some girl tells a guy he's very handsome, plays to his ego, strokes his arm, compliments his muscles, gives him doe eyes, gives him the best sex he's ever had, treats him like a king, gets him to marry her, then divorces him in 2 years and takes half his chit, that's some solid long game right there...

been on tinder since june (no plus, no boosts) and i've had a total of 60-something matches. haven't updated the pics since i first made the account. however, new matches aren't rolling in anymore...if i'm lucky i'll get a new one per week.

so, is there any harm in resetting my tinder and putting up new pics? or will it fukk up my ELO score irreparably?

i'm thinking of doing the same for my bumble account as well, btw.

reps for help

In my experience, most girls use Snap both to verify you're a real person and to have full on conversations. I'm a bit older and it feels really weird to me to be constantly snapping selfies of myself. I don't like it at all, and will try to avoid Snap where possible. Not doing this is probably costing me a bit with some of the younger girls.

Some girls will use it to sext/send nudes, but I definitely wouldn't assume that's the case until you get some kind of indication. It has a lot of other uses first.