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post 1536764401 12-06-2017, 09:23 PM
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The more I read about CME the more of a bad feeling I get that we’re going to witness the crash of a lifetime. Only whales have something to to gain out of this. It’s straight gambling.
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post 1536764481 12-06-2017, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted By KillahJon⏩
GOt most of my money in VTC which seems to always move when GRS does, but GRS marketcap is a lot lower.
Also got DRGN and WISH on ED....Just waiting for them to pop. Thoughts on DNA? it's on ED
DRGN, moon possible, but a slight longish hold. Excellent upside.
GRS, hold until before Christmas, then exit. It took a nice dip, so nice entry. I don't know much about DNA.

Also, for those who bought MANA, my prediction:

https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...post1522624281

past predictions on SALT in July

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post 1536764581 12-06-2017, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted By FatalTragedy12⏩
The more I read about CME the more of a bad feeling I get that we’re going to witness the crash of a lifetime. Only whales have something to to gain out of this. It’s straight gambling.
Will the exchanges be able to handle the kind of manipulation that might happen with futures?
post 1536764791 12-06-2017, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted By DoesNotLie⏩
DRGN, moon possible, but a slight longish hold. Excellent upside.
GRS, hold until before Christmas, then exit. It took a nice dip, so nice entry. I don't know much about DNA.

Also, for those who bought MANA, my prediction:

https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...post1522624281

past predictions on SALT in July

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lol MANA is garbage

stop
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post 1536764911 12-06-2017, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted By EasTexan⏩
Will the exchanges be able to handle the kind of manipulation that might happen with futures?
No. Not unless you’re an experienced veteran trader and can actually do proper TA. Most crypto traders would get destroyed on something like FOREX day or margin trading. The reason it’s been smooth sailing thus far is because you’re trading against utter noobs who have no clue or the markets are so volatile.

The fallacy goes like this: Get every tom, dick and Harry to pump BTC. Then launch futures, manipulate the f*ck out of the market. Average joe loses the 20K he spent on his new 0% APR card and goes into debt. Whales win.

Scary sh*t. I’m glad I read up on it.
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post 1536764931 12-06-2017, 09:28 PM
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Rumor has it futures may launch for ETH in the next few weeks.... I've seen January 1st a few places

I don't have a link or anything but Lubin talked about it on bloomberg today. Seemed as if he knew something but couldn't legally disclose it
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post 1536764951 12-06-2017, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted By DavidL913⏩
lol MANA is garbage

stop
stop what? it went up 2X, made prediction earlier when price was low, obviously not buy high sell low, you n00b.
post 1536765291 12-06-2017, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted By FatalTragedy12⏩
The more I read about CME the more of a bad feeling I get that we’re going to witness the crash of a lifetime. Only whales have something to to gain out of this. It’s straight gambling.
Good discussion herehttps://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/06/gove...nipulated.html
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post 1536765361 12-06-2017, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted By refsum⏩
BTC is in parabolic growth against the dollar. You have the choice to hold dollars, bitcoins, or trade altcoins. It is very easy to beat the dollar since it is in constant decline. It is very hard to beat BTC
Look, I understand why people compare their crypto portfolio to BTC. It’s a good and interesting metric.

What I’m arguing is that is is NOT more important to gain relative BTC value over dollar value. The overarching goal is dollar gain.
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post 1536765541 12-06-2017, 09:37 PM
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1) Buy DRGN
2) Buy GRS

I mean these as buy now, buy today. I mentioned these before, but they are not done.

DRGN was recently released by the team. They went on EtherDelta. They can still be bought despite the price and held for profit. GRS is a quicker flip, you must hold until nearing Christmas.

Peace.

post 1536765601 12-06-2017, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
Look, I understand why people compare their crypto portfolio to BTC. It’s a good and interesting metric.

What I’m arguing is that is is NOT more important to gain relative BTC value over dollar value. The overarching goal is dollar gain.
there are many people who believe BTC will be used to buy anything in 10 years, so might as well accumulate BTC lol. very simplistic, but sorta makes sense.
post 1536765621 12-06-2017, 09:38 PM
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Minor heart attack every time I wake up and see the new price of btc crew
post 1536765641 12-06-2017, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted By DoesNotLie⏩
1) Buy DRGN
2) Buy GRS

I mean these as buy now, buy today. I mentioned these before, but they are not done.

DRGN was recently released by the team. They went on EtherDelta. They can still be bought despite the price and held for profit. GRS is a quicker flip, you must hold until nearing Christmas.

Peace.

Bought GRS, now we wait..
post 1536765731 12-06-2017, 09:39 PM
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I'm going so deep right now at hopefully 1600 sat LRC hngggg
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post 1536765871 12-06-2017, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
Look, I understand why people compare their crypto portfolio to BTC. It’s a good and interesting metric.

What I’m arguing is that is is NOT more important to gain relative BTC value over dollar value. The overarching goal is dollar gain.
This. I understand the goal measuring value in satoshis but you’re making the huge assumption that the satoshi is an all encompassing bedrock that will stay stable or always go up. Say over Dec 9th-18th (during futures launch) BTC drops significantly (a few K) now you’re at the same satoshi value but you’re only breaking even in USD. If you measured in USD all along (which let’s be honest, is the end goal) you’d have a much clearer picture of what happened.

The reference point should always be the most stable value.
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post 1536766071 12-06-2017, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
Look, I understand why people compare their crypto portfolio to BTC. It’s a good and interesting metric.

What I’m arguing is that is is NOT more important to gain relative BTC value over dollar value. The overarching goal is dollar gain.
Ya, regardless what people say, they care about dollar value.

That said, crypto in it's current state is all tied to BTC so obviously increasing BTC value as of now pretty much always means better dollar value with any alt as well.

I myself am kind of torn though as I would like to increase my BTC value with trades, I also don't want to be 100% BTC in case the Utopian bitcoin scenario does not happen where it forever remains the gold standard and alts overtake it in gains/dollar value.
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Originally Posted By FatalTragedy12⏩
No. Not unless you’re an experienced veteran trader and can actually do proper TA. Most crypto traders would get destroyed on something like FOREX day or margin trading. The reason it’s been smooth sailing thus far is because you’re trading against utter noobs who have no clue or the markets are so volatile.

The fallacy goes like this: Get every tom, dick and Harry to pump BTC. Then launch futures, manipulate the f*ck out of the market. Average joe loses the 20K he spent on his new 0% APR card and goes into debt. Whales win.

Scary sh*t. I’m glad I read up on it.
How to manipulate the BTC market when the futures are cash settled?

Exchanges will quote prices based on market price of actual BTC trades

Reptilian bankers can rip off geriatric baby boomers all they want with futures contracts that are merely gambling on price changes

We won
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post 1536766151 12-06-2017, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted By DoesNotLie⏩
stop what? it went up 2X, made prediction earlier when price was low, obviously not buy high sell low, you n00b.
wanna explain why it will moon?

Your last few post have been nothing but buy these other coins.

Shilling the fuk out of coins so you can get rid of your bags?

who the fuk are u ?

gtfo

EDIT:

you're telling ppl to hold these coins as if you know the market will do in whatever time frame. Some newb will read this and buy out of pure ignorance.

moron
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post 1536766211 12-06-2017, 09:47 PM
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would now be a good time to pull out of XLM?
post 1536766411 12-06-2017, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted By Mythenthefang⏩
How to manipulate the BTC market when the futures are cash settled?

Exchanges will quote prices based on market price of actual BTC trades

Reptilian bankers can rip off geriatric baby boomers all they want with futures contracts that are merely gambling on price changes

We won
The market is manipulated on the basis of future predictions.

It’s kind of how a betting agency/Las Vegas odds gives credibility to a boxing fights outcome and how you’d bet on it. Not that it would influence how the fight goes but in the case of a cash market it influences people’s decisions to pump or dump.

In a cash market, the bulls hold all the power - especially in crypto where you can use sell walls etc. The futures market gives equal power to the bears and the little fish.
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do you brahs think btc will dip with the new features?
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Originally Posted By FatalTragedy12⏩
No. Not unless you’re an experienced veteran trader and can actually do proper TA. Most crypto traders would get destroyed on something like FOREX day or margin trading. The reason it’s been smooth sailing thus far is because you’re trading against utter noobs who have no clue or the markets are so volatile.

The fallacy goes like this: Get every tom, dick and Harry to pump BTC. Then launch futures, manipulate the f*ck out of the market. Average joe loses the 20K he spent on his new 0% APR card and goes into debt. Whales win.

Scary sh*t. I’m glad I read up on it.
You forgot to mention that it’s easy to trade and still be profitable in a bull market. But ye, due to regulations etc the real trading companies are still focused on traditional markets. If and when BTC becomes a commodity that the mainstream trades, their algorithms will swipe up any easy value off the market in a nanosecond.
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Originally Posted By SleeveStretchin⏩
would now be a good time to pull out of XLM?
conference is tomorrow.

If u don't feel comfortable, just lighten up your stack.

with the last SWELL conference with XRP, it was going up because of the hype. Then dramatically sold off. Be weary.
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post 1536766751 12-06-2017, 09:54 PM
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What’s everyones predictions for BTC over the next few days till the 10th?

Gonna continue to pump and alts get reckt orrrr?
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Originally Posted By DavidL913⏩
conference is tomorrow.

If u don't feel comfortable, just lighten up your stack.

with the last SWELL conference with XRP, it was going up because of the hype. Then dramatically sold off. Be weary.
good call, i skimmed profits
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Originally Posted By RagingGorilla⏩
What’s everyones predictions for BTC over the next few days till the 10th?

Gonna continue to pump and alts get reckt orrrr?
Alts get wrrrrrecked as usual


















No idea
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post 1536767431 12-06-2017, 10:04 PM
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If anything is going to get wrecked, it'll be BTC. The futures market probably won't even hedge on anything apart from BTC initially because they have the greatest chance of shorting it and making mega bucks.

They don't want or need to short small fries like XLM, IOTA or LTC (yet) or they will die after the BTC panic begins involuntarily (if they manage to short it).

Great article from the Financial Post:

"One of the greatest shorting opportunities ever': Hedge funds ready to bet against Bitcoin"http://business.financialpost.com/in...inst-bitcoin-1
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post 1536767521 12-06-2017, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted By DavidL913⏩
conference is tomorrow.

If u don't feel comfortable, just lighten up your stack.

with the last SWELL conference with XRP, it was going up because of the hype. Then dramatically sold off. Be weary.
This. depending on the conference the price will either continue to rise or fall. But till then we should except XLM to increase due to speculation surrounding the conference and people jumping onboard because of the gains over the last 2 days
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holy chit imagine if the corporate world spends millions to spread FUD then shorts BTC
post 1536767661 12-06-2017, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted By Dota2Brah⏩
there are many people who believe BTC will be used to buy anything in 10 years, so might as well accumulate BTC lol. very simplistic, but sorta makes sense.
Don't underestimate store of value. There's potentially trillions in market cap there. A single BTC is already becoming unattainable. I'm trying to grab whole ones before they're really out of reach.
Your schtick sucks and it screams insecurity.
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