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post 1537000801 12-09-2017, 10:06 AM
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That cop should rot in a cell for at least 20 years. Yeah, kid probably should not reach up to pull his pants but who the fukk gives a thousand fukkin cryptic orders to a frightened, crying, begging individual while constantly reminding that you are gonna get fukkin killed if you fuk up even in the slightest. I had a hard time following what the cop was telling the kid to do, I could imagine what the fukk he was thinking. Most likely a lot of us miscers defending the cop would end up dead in that situation; he put such an insane amount of pressure on him and very hard to do commands under such a heavy stress level.

How on earth is it so hard to just tell him to lie still and arrest him instead of fukkin making him fukkin crawl with his hands held up and legs crossed: its hard as fukk. It all felt like he was just waiting for an excuse to blast him.
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post 1537001071 12-09-2017, 10:11 AM
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Wonder if any of you itt would be willing to catch a buzz and go to the other end of the hallway while I shout orders at the top of my lungs with the barrel of an assault rifle pointed at your face.

Rules are simple:

You get to live so long as you’re able to crawl close enough to lick my boots with your arms in the air and your feet crossed. You make a mistake and get a face full of bullets. Do you have what it takes to survive?
post 1537001451 12-09-2017, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted By ERTW22
I'd also like to point out that, while the cop gave some confusing and contradictory statements (keep your hands up - crawl towards me), the guy didn't get shot for that contradiction so it's not really important here. You can call that poor training, or poor tactics or whatever, but the guy didn't get shot when he put his hands down to crawl. Obviously that would have been just outrageous and yeah the cop should be shot on sight IF that was the case.

The guy got shot because he started to put his hands where it was extremely clear he was not supposed to. Nobody in the world that can understand English could have possibly misunderstood the instruction of where to not put your hands.
Honestly think it might have been instinctual to pull up his pants.. but Ive never had a gun pointed at me. I honestly think his hands slapping his knees was because he was confused and didn't want to ask again afraid of being non compliant.

Again, someone tells you you make one mistake and youre dead and he just told you what to do but you're confused. How do you even ask? Can you use body language to ask the question?

You know if you sit there and ask questions it's just going to piss off the cop more.

Further, maybe if he didn't pull up his pants they'd drop around his knees and he'd be unable to crawl?
post 1537002001 12-09-2017, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted By propreffered7
Honestly think it might have been instinctual to pull up his pants.. but Ive never had a gun pointed at me. I honestly think his hands slapping his knees was because he was confused and didn't want to ask again afraid of being non compliant.

Again, someone tells you you make one mistake and youre dead and he just told you what to do but you're confused. How do you even ask? Can you use body language to ask the question?

You know if you sit there and ask questions it's just going to piss off the cop more.

Further, maybe if he didn't pull up his pants they'd drop around his knees and he'd be unable to crawl?
I’ve had guns pointed at me several times.

Two occasions I remember probably because I’d done nothing wrong:
1. It’s like 1am, friend takes a leak outside, group of Mexicans call the police and say he’s got a “rape tool.”
L driving down the highway and get pulled over, several police cruisers show up, pull us out the truck 1x1 with like 10 guns trained on us, just looking for a reason to pull the trigger.

I ask if all the guns are necessary - cop says it’s a free country and they can do what they want (major red flag looking back.) I say if it’s a free country why can’t my friend urinate outside when nature calls. Cop gets triggered and makes a gesture with his finger, “I’ve got a book this fukkin thick in the car, and I can find something to put you away for.”


Second instance I’m delivering a business letter, cop outside draws on me like whoa. Just looking for me to sneeze or something to give him reason to kill me. Turns out someone said there was someone showing up to kill the employees or some bs. Cop (he’s like 5’3” Mexican) illegally searches my truck, finds a pistol under the seat, says he saw it on top of the seat and the search was legal and justified. 100% liar scum.



PS: that guy knew the cop wanted to kill him, he was saying pls don’t pls don’t, etc. same things I said when I knew cops wanted to kill me.

FTP. State troopers aight tho.
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Originally Posted By spurdo
That cop should rot in a cell for at least 20 years. Yeah, kid probably should not reach up to pull his pants but who the fukk gives a thousand fukkin cryptic orders to a frightened, crying, begging individual while constantly reminding that you are gonna get fukkin killed if you fuk up even in the slightest. I had a hard time following what the cop was telling the kid to do, I could imagine what the fukk he was thinking. Most likely a lot of us miscers defending the cop would end up dead in that situation; he put such an insane amount of pressure on him and very hard to do commands under such a heavy stress level.

How on earth is it so hard to just tell him to lie still and arrest him instead of fukkin making him fukkin crawl with his hands held up and legs crossed: its hard as fukk. It all felt like he was just waiting for an excuse to blast him.
That's exactly what he was doing.

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Originally Posted By Ikeman83
1. The cops had been called about someone pointing a rifle out of a window. They can't go up to the guy, because doing so puts them in the line of fire from the hotel room they're investigating.

2. All the guy had to do was slowly crawl towards the cops without grabbing his shorts, keeping his hands visible and in front of him. Two cops have rifles pointed at you and you're worried about your gym shorts?


The fact that the guy turned out to be unarmedin this instanceis irrelevant. The police don't know that you're unarmed, and don't assume that you're unarmed, ever.
You ever just put a phone in your gym shorts?

You know sure as hell no gym shorts are going to conceal a fng pistol.

A phone or wallet weighs them down and makes them sag it's pretty fng obvious too.
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1
You ever just put a phone in your gym shorts?

You know sure as hell no gym shorts are going to conceal a fng pistol.

A phone or wallet weighs them down and makes them sag it's pretty fng obvious too.
He’s justifying this one so his cold blooded murder of a civilian doesn’t stand out so much.
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Originally Posted By American
I’ve had guns pointed at me several times.

Two occasions I remember probably because I’d done nothing wrong:
1. It’s like 1am, friend takes a leak outside, group of Mexicans call the police and say he’s got a “rape tool.”
L driving down the highway and get pulled over, several police cruisers show up, pull us out the truck 1x1 with like10 gunstrained on us, just looking for a reason to pull the trigger.

I ask if all the guns are necessary - cop says it’s a free country and they can do what they want (major red flag looking back.) I say if it’s a free countrywhy can’t my friend urinate outside when nature calls.Cop getstriggeredand makes a gesture with his finger, “I’ve got a book this fukkin thick in the car, and I can find something to put you away for.”
das one bad ass.
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terrible situation.
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1
You ever just put a phone in your gym shorts?

You know sure as hell no gym shorts are going to conceal a fng pistol.

A phone or wallet weighs them down and makes them sag it's pretty fng obvious too.
I have literally done this while running errands before hitting the gym...with a gun that isn't even close to the smallest thing you can kill someone with. Don't talk about something you don't know
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****s sad.

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The shooter was not the one yelling instructions, that was another officer. He's the one that caused this. He needlessly heightened an already tense situation with his *******ry.

I LOL'd when he yelled "KEY CARD!" in the end, like he's in a video game or something
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10 years ago it was: Don't tase me bro!

Where will we be in another 10 years?
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Public should get a lynch mob together and find this cop and put a hollow point in his dome. The public can’t risk having this guy walk free. Sad!
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OK, so the cop handled that situation like total shiet. BUT, with that said the guy should NEVER have reached for his waistband. I don't know what people are thinking these days. If a cop has a gun pointed at you and shouting orders, DO NOT PUT YOUR HANDS INTO YOUR POCKETS/WAISTBAND/ASS HOLE--YOU WILL BE SHOT.

And when cops shoot, they shoot to kill rather than disarm or disable a target. I lul at people who're like "he didn't have to shoot THAT many times." Bitch please. You can't fix stupid. While this guy should probably be fired, he shouldn't be charged with murder.
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He was in a perfect position to be handcuffed and extracted out of that confusing situation, yet they kept giving him additional orders to move.

bad bad bad
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the girl followed the instructions properly. the cops didnt know who would come around that hallway and use them as cover. why would he swing his arms around, and put them behind his back when obviously in this scenario, he wasnt supposed to? and he keep reaching for his back. the cop got called over because of potential threat with rifle, of course they are gonna be uptight, just follow instructions slowly and properly, and you will survive like the lady.
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As a former LEO, I've never seen such orders given. Perhaps they were under the impression that more perpetrators were in the adjacent room and didn't feel safe approaching for an arrest? That's all I could think of.

I do know that being told multiple times to not reach for your lower back and then doing it is a no no. We can't just assume you're NOT carrying and more relaxed cops have been killed for it.

Just unsure of the crawling instruction.
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**** cops,,,


But this idiot reached behind him ...
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1
You know sure as hell no gym shorts are going to conceal a fng pistol.
You're an idiot and have no idea what you're talking about. A small pistol can easily fit in gym shorts pockets and larger pistols can be carried in the waistband as long as the drawstring is tight.
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strong ROE people go by these days.

Fuking execution and nothing more.
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Originally Posted By StalinBrah
The cop is at fault here, or possibly the department for lack of training which is evident.

What's with having the guy crawl towards you? Way too much hand movement. Poor guy was executed.


The proper way to handle it would be

1.face away from me hands laced behind your head.

2.when I tell you walk backwards slowly

3. Then when he was in a safe range have him go to his knees while keeping his hands behind his head... then cross his feet. He is still facing away so he won't see you coming. The whole time his hands will Be behind his head. No hand or arm movement.


The confusing set of directions followed by a super unsafe crawl is what did this kid in. The crawl is high risk for the officer because the suspect can see you and hand movement is too unpredictable.
I have to agree to this. The cop seemed like he was just barking orders for him to do random chit..
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Originally Posted By Judgment
As a former LEO, I've never seen such orders given. Perhaps they were under the impression that more perpetrators were in the adjacent room and didn't feel safe approaching for an arrest? That's all I could think of.

I do know that being told multiple times to not reach for your lower back and then doing it is a no no. We can't just assume you're NOT carrying and more relaxed cops have been killed for it.

Just unsure of the crawling instruction.
if they thought this then why did they not request back up?

is it normal for 2 cops to charge into a situation if they believe its multiple armed suspects?

too many contradictions
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Originally Posted By aspirex
the girl followed the instructions properly. the cops didnt know who would come around that hallway and use them as cover. why would he swing his arms around, and put them behind his back when obviously in this scenario, he wasnt supposed to? and he keep reaching for his back. the cop got called over because of potential threat with rifle, of course they are gonna be uptight, just follow instructions slowly and properly, and you will survive like the lady.
But he did follow instructions - had his arms behind his head on his stomach, legs crossed, was then given further instructions smh
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Originally Posted By Dan916
But he did follow instructions - had his arms behind his head on his stomach, legs crossed, was then given further instructions smh
Shame he couldn't follow the most important order which wasdon't reach behind or touch your lower back, if you do that we will shoot you.
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Originally Posted By Dan916
But he did follow instructions - had his arms behind his head on his stomach, legs crossed, was then given further instructions smh
feel bad for guys with tourettes , anxiety or any other mental disability

if they ever get involved with the police they will die 100%

hope nobody has the flu when they get pulled up either

wouldnt want to die due to a cough
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Originally Posted By Dan916
But he did follow instructions...
He was instructed to suddenly reach behind him to his waist?

Must have missed that part.
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Originally Posted By Gainzzz
Shame he couldn't follow the most important order which wasdon't reach behind or touch your lower back, if you do that we will shoot you.
shame the cop couldnt follow his trainers orders and do the proper procedure ey
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Originally Posted By thehypocrit
shame the cop couldnt follow his trainers orders and do the proper procedure ey
Yea, it is..
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Originally Posted By Gainzzz
Yea, it is..
so if a trained professional cracks under pressure and doesnt follow protocol its all *****?

but if random joe blo who has never been in a stressful situation in his life makes a slight mistep then its lights out?

why does everyone expect an untrained civilian to be infallible but cops can make mistakes because of stress?
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