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post 1537625271 12-15-2017, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted By IronBrahh



ayyyy
Lmao.

Dumb question but do the film producers and execs at least see this and how much everyone hates the film? Not that they’d care since they’ll get a fat paycheck anyway...
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Gonna watch OG trilogy to bleach my eyes of this travesty.
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I’m sorry brahs literally the worst Star Wars movie ever made. Space Balls-tier kind of stuff.

Watch at your own risk. 1/10 Star Wars movie, 6/10 as generic sci fi movie
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I enjoyed everything except the fat Asian girl. Worst character ever
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Originally Posted By Phrankoff
There is a lot of hate for this film from people. I am a Conservative who voted for and supports Trump. f ck SJWs and snowflakes. This movie can be taken without bringing any politics into it.
I'm not going to debate how big of a fan I am of Star Wars but I love it...

This film is getting a lot of harsh, harsh reviews that I think are kind of unwarranted. This movie took big chances on story lines and went in directions no one predicted, as far as I know, online in blogs, vlogs etc.

So damned if you do, damned if you don't. " True " Star Wars fans were pissed that TFA was like A New Hope. What happens? They take a bunch of original, different, ballsy changes and " True " Star Wars fans are mad at TLJ.

Can't please everyone.

Also The Trilogies are meant to be like ACTS.

Act 1, Act 2 , Act 3 of a bigger whole.
This is part of a story, not a stand alone movie.


When ESB came out it was not received with giant open arms at first. The fan base was split and it was globally accepted as, OK, what's next?

Brb Attack of the Clones........


far too much hate for it.

That being said, there is far too much dick riding on this film. I saw nothing but 9/10 reviews of this and I honeselty don't know where these views were derived from. But opinions are opinions.

See it for yourself and form your own opinion.
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Same here, I HATE SJWs, but unless I am nitpicking, I dont actually see liberal themes in the movie. Star Wars was always about diverse cast(Hell, there are aliens). Casino scene is loved by SJW? I actually dont see it, unless cuz its Finn and that ugly asian.

Critics and many fans love it. Many fans dislike it as well, but not to the point of hate, they just find it "meh", or just angry at the ending.
Yep cant stand forced diversity and sjw crap, but I'm not getting any vibes of those in this movie. I swear every big movie that comes out you get these fragile miscers popping out of the wood work complaining that the lead isnt a male .... and white (we all know how everyone reacted when Boyegga was cast)


That said, Rey doesnt even do anything that significant in this movie if you think about it ... Luke was still the most important catalyst during the war. Dude was insanely powerfulSpoiler!
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I enjoyed it.

The whole "women are in charge of everything" is the only thing that irked me.

Lots of surprises.

Didn't thinkSpoiler!
Snoke would eat it. The movie didn't really explain who he was and where he came from


Also was kind of hoping thatSpoiler!
Leia would have had a show down with Ren to provide the escape and ultimately dying. That I think would have made for a great service to her and ending the movie with a much more darker ending
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Originally Posted By HandstandPushup
I enjoyed everything except the fat Asian girl. Worst character ever
Why?
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movie was ok. 6/10 at best

lots of strong forced diversity lol. They tryna say a fat minority can be on screen and love too.

that said,

things I didn't like

- useless characters, asian chick, 2nd in command for Leah, del toro, Finn
- light saber being shotdown after it being such a symbolic weapon for the jedi
- snoke being killed off so easy
- snoke being the mastermind reading and feeling all intentions and thoughts but get's killed
- no epic training like batman beings, teacher to student type.
- kylo ren shud have kept his masks on but that was shotdown at TFA
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Originally Posted By iloveus
Why?
you can edit out all her parts and the plot and story would still be the same lol
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post 1537650691 12-15-2017, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted By Manletbolic
you can edit out all her parts and the plot and story would still be the same lol
That makes sense. Her character was unnecessary. She gonna get friendzoned/cucked in Episode IX since Finn is more interested in Rey. lol
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so......Rey........

I refuse to believe that she is........

Spoiler!
just the daughter of 2 randoms.

Evidence:

Remember in TFA, when the random first order guy told Kylo that a girl helped Finn and BB-8 escape. He used the force to draw him in and choke him before asking “What girl?.” I always took that to mean he knew her or atleast knew of her based on the way he said it. There was recognition.

On top of that, didn’t Maz Kanata tell her that the lightsaber belonged to both Anakin and Luke and now it calls to her?

Plus, Luke mentioning how he has only seen this raw strength once before in presumably Kylo.

In The Force Awakens, with absolutely zero training, she beat a Kylo in that battle of wills and then beat him in a lightsaber duel. In The Last Jedi, still very little training, she beat several members of Snokes elite guard.

Obviously, you don’t need to be a Skywalker to be force sensitive but something has to be up for her to be THAT strong with the force.
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big question for the strong star war nerds itt

was....
Spoiler!


Luke dead this whole time and it was just his ghosts force roaming around or did he ascend and achieve the final form of a jedi being the entire force itself?

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post 1537651841 12-15-2017, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124
so......Rey........

I refuse to believe that she is........

Spoiler!
just the daughter of 2 randoms.

Evidence:

Remember in TFA, when the random first order guy told Kylo that a girl helped Finn and BB-8 escape. He used the force to draw him in and choke him before asking “What girl?.” I always took that to mean he knew her or atleast knew of her based on the way he said it. There was recognition.

On top of that, didn’t Maz Kanata tell her that the lightsaber belonged to both Anakin and Luke and now it calls to her?

Plus, Luke mentioning how he has only seen this raw strength once before in presumably Kylo.

In The Force Awakens, with absolutely zero training, she beat a Kylo in that battle of wills and then beat him in a lightsaber duel. In The Last Jedi, still very little training, she beat several members of Snokes elite guard.

Obviously, you don’t need to be a Skywalker to be force sensitive but something has to be up for her to be THAT strong with the force.
Spoiler!


i do to brah but, but just like how they killed off snoke so easy, and there was hardly any chilling twists, I wouldn't build that up in your head to only get disappointed later on. it wasn't well done

I'd smash daisy ridley though
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Originally Posted By Manletbolic
big question for the strong star war nerds itt

was....
Spoiler!


Luke dead this whole time and it was just his ghosts force roaming around or did he ascend and achieve the final form of a jedi being the entire force itself?

Spoiler!
he died at the end when he disappeared looking at the 2 suns
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124
so......Rey........

I refuse to believe that she is........

Spoiler!
just the daughter of 2 randoms.

Evidence:

Remember in TFA, when the random first order guy told Kylo that a girl helped Finn and BB-8 escape. He used the force to draw him in and choke him before asking “What girl?.” I always took that to mean he knew her or atleast knew of her based on the way he said it. There was recognition.

On top of that, didn’t Maz Kanata tell her that the lightsaber belonged to both Anakin and Luke and now it calls to her?

Plus, Luke mentioning how he has only seen this raw strength once before in presumably Kylo.

In The Force Awakens, with absolutely zero training, she beat a Kylo in that battle of wills and then beat him in a lightsaber duel. In The Last Jedi, still very little training, she beat several members of Snokes elite guard.

Obviously, you don’t need to be a Skywalker to be force sensitive but something has to be up for her to be THAT strong with the force.
It def seemed like JJ was trying to set something up but then Rian dropped the ball. lol
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This was a movie that is going to split the audience big time. This had a feel of a Marvel movie (Disney) with the amount of humor they injected into it. At times it felt like Guardians and SW had a hybrid baby. For some people that's perfect for some people it makes them want to puke.

I don't think it's fair for people to complain about TFA being way too similar to ANH yet when they go a completely unpredictable route with The Last Jedi people complain that it doesn't feel like Star Wars. Lolwut

My main gripe with this film as well as TFA is the lack of light sabre duels like what the hell...we get a lousy fight at the end of TFA and then you know what happens at the end which isn't really a light sabre fight.

8/10 for me

Spoilers/Questions I have below

Spoiler!


- How is Rey the daughter of 2 junkies? I get that Anakin was the son of nobodies but based on the flashback in TFA i feel like this is extremely unlikely. Like somebody mentioned above I think either 1) they're misleading us 2) the Director had a different direction
- I feel like Snoke was a colossal waste. Barely see him in TFA...very dark and mysterious character that many looked forward to in this movie. He had some good moments but to be taken out in the 2nd movie felt a little soon. Regardless i can't spite them for taking a chance
- It was the right thing to kill Luke off. All the character development would be wasted if Luke was just around to save the day in Ep. 9
- How is Leia going to be filmed next movie? CGI?
- Asian chick was cringe
- Finn is a miscer who will end up forever alone
- How significant will the kids be at the end?

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Mixed feelings about this film

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-Enjoyed the yoda force ghost. Did no one geek out like me??
-Reys parents being nobodies = seriously? All this fuss for what
-Snoke dead already = all this fuss for what?
-what exactly do we care for now, Theres like no mystery left
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I think Snoke telling Kylo to take off his stupid mask was a FU to JJ Abrams. Anyone catch that?

Doesn't seem like JJ and RJ get along. Really seemed RJ took TFA and pretty much ended the series in movie #2. JJ must be rueing the day he said ok to RJ directing it.

JJ must be one pissed off sob right now. He's the one who started this whole diversity girlpower junk so he has only himself to blame. RJ just ran with it and put it on steroids.

give SW back to lucas. At least the prequels were better than this junk. ROTS was so hardcore and right up there with the trilogy (minus the cheesy cgi).
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Originally Posted By Vulvarine
This was a movie that is going to split the audience big time. This had a feel of a Marvel movie (Disney) with the amount of humor they injected into it. At times it felt like Guardians and SW had a hybrid baby. For some people that's perfect for some people it makes them want to puke.

I don't think it's fair for people to complain about TFA being way too similar to ANH yet when they go a completely unpredictable route with The Last Jedi people complain that it doesn't feel like Star Wars. Lolwut

My main gripe with this film as well as TFA is the lack of light sabre duels like what the hell...we get a lousy fight at the end of TFA and then you know what happens at the end which isn't really a light sabre fight.

8/10 for me

Spoilers/Questions I have below

Spoiler!


- How is Rey the daughter of 2 junkies? I get that Anakin was the son of nobodies but based on the flashback in TFA i feel like this is extremely unlikely. Like somebody mentioned above I think either 1) they're misleading us 2) the Director had a different direction
- I feel like Snoke was a colossal waste. Barely see him in TFA...very dark and mysterious character that many looked forward to in this movie. He had some good moments but to be taken out in the 2nd movie felt a little soon. Regardless i can't spite them for taking a chance
- It was the right thing to kill Luke off. All the character development would be wasted if Luke was just around to save the day in Ep. 9
- How is Leia going to be filmed next movie? CGI?
- Asian chick was cringe
- Finn is a miscer who will end up forever alone
- How significant will the kids be at the end?

Agree. Some people dont seem to like rehashed stories, but also dont like new ones that doesnt go to their preferred narrative.

Spoiler!
I think they are just showing those sensitive to the Force are just random. Either theres more to it or they will just show that not everyone needs to be a descendant of a somebody.

The kids in the end, Im not sure. Maybe just to show the jedis are not dead.

Snoke is a waste, but he had to die, otherwise it will just be the original SW. Just another old dude villain. It is basically the progress of Kylo's power.
Originally Posted By RocknRollMuscle
I think Snoke telling Kylo to take off his stupid mask was a FU to JJ Abrams. Anyone catch that?

Doesn't seem like JJ and RJ get along. Really seemed RJ took TFA and pretty much ended the series in movie #2. JJ must be rueing the day he said ok to RJ directing it.

JJ must be one pissed off sob right now. He's the one who started this whole diversity girlpower junk so he has only himself to blame. RJ just ran with it and put it on steroids.

give SW back to lucas. At least the prequels were better than this junk. ROTS was so hardcore and right up there with the trilogy (minus the cheesy cgi).
The Last Jedi is still better than Clones and Phantom Menace(except in terms of saber battles).
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Originally Posted By ChristmasFnatic
The Last Jedi is still better than Clones and Phantom Menace(except in terms of saber battles).
Not possible brah, simply because TLJ gets mogged in the character department

brb Obi-Wan
brb Mace fukin Windu
brb Darth fukin Maul
brb Palpatine and who do we have in TLJ, dead Snoke and an underutilized Kylo Ren (cringe at all the lost potential with Kylo, they could have knocked it out of the park with him)
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Originally Posted By BericDondarrion
Not possible brah, simply because TLJ gets mogged in the character department

brb Obi-Wan
brb Mace fukin Windu
brb Darth fukin Maul
brb Palpatine and who do we have in TLJ, dead Snoke and an underutilized Kylo Ren (cringe at all the lost potential with Kylo, they could have knocked it out of the park with him)
brb brb
brb brb brb
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Originally Posted By BericDondarrion
Not possible brah, simply because TLJ gets mogged in the character department

brb Obi-Wan
brb Mace fukin Windu
brb Darth fukin Maul
brb Palpatine and who do we have in TLJ, dead Snoke and an underutilized Kylo Ren (cringe at all the lost potential with Kylo, they could have knocked it out of the park with him)
brb brb
This. I can atleast rewatch the prequels. I have a few times. I have zero desire to see the Last Jedi again.
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I liked the prequels more at least the prequels had dope light saber battles
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Originally Posted By getseverygirl
I liked the prequels more at least the prequels had dope light saber battles
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Originally Posted By BericDondarrion
Not possible brah, simply because TLJ gets mogged in the character department

brb Obi-Wan
brb Mace fukin Windu
brb Darth fukin Maul
brb Palpatine and who do we have in TLJ, dead Snoke and an underutilized Kylo Ren (cringe at all the lost potential with Kylo, they could have knocked it out of the park with him)
brb brb
Darth Maul hardly got ang character development as well. And I think they did Kylo right. By what happened, it progressed his character from a student to what he is now. The prequels, esp the first 2 are a drag and a mess throughout.

But yes, as I said, and I agree with you, light saber fights are lacking.

As someone said, maybe cuz TFA left us with so many questions, that we fans read and formed theories that when it didnt came true, many were disappointed. But yes, as many reviewers said, it really did split the fanbase.
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This movie was fantastic. No idea why everyone is hating on it. I guess people are just made because none of their theories happened. The only complaint I have is lack of backstory for Snoke, but I'm okay with the death because I didn't see it coming at all. And for once, the plans that were made, by both the "good guys" and the "bad guys", didn't work.

Finn/Rose/Poe plan failed miserably. Admiral Holdings plan failed miserable due to Finn/Rose/Poe. Snoke's plan with Rey/Kylo failed miserably for him. Kylo's plan to turn Rey failed. Rey's plan to turn Kylo failed. The resistance's plan to call other allies failed miserably. The only reason they survived was because Luke turned into a legend at the end.


The whole movie was about failure and how it changes you. Yoda even mentions it in his cameo, which was awesome.
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Originally Posted By Poppingtags
This movie was fantastic. No idea why everyone is hating on it. I guess people are just made because none of their theories happened. The only complaint I have is lack of backstory for Snoke, but I'm okay with the death because I didn't see it coming at all. And for once, the plans that were made, by both the "good guys" and the "bad guys", didn't work.

Finn/Rose/Poe plan failed miserably. Admiral Holdings plan failed miserable due to Finn/Rose/Poe. Snoke's plan with Rey/Kylo failed miserably for him. Kylo's plan to turn Rey failed. Rey's plan to turn Kylo failed. The resistance's plan to call other allies failed miserably. The only reason they survived was because Luke turned into a legend at the end.


The whole movie was about failure and how it changes you. Yoda even mentions it in his cameo, which was awesome.
You're preaching to a bunch of slack jawed mouth breathing *******s that need explosions and all story handed to them on a silver platter.
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Originally Posted By Poppingtags
This movie was fantastic. No idea why everyone is hating on it. I guess people are just made because none of their theories happened. The only complaint I have is lack of backstory for Snoke, but I'm okay with the death because I didn't see it coming at all. And for once, the plans that were made, by both the "good guys" and the "bad guys", didn't work.

Finn/Rose/Poe plan failed miserably. Admiral Holdings plan failed miserable due to Finn/Rose/Poe. Snoke's plan with Rey/Kylo failed miserably for him. Kylo's plan to turn Rey failed. Rey's plan to turn Kylo failed. The resistance's plan to call other allies failed miserably. The only reason they survived was because Luke turned into a legend at the end.


The whole movie was about failure and how it changes you. Yoda even mentions it in his cameo, which was awesome.
The movie was horrendous. It had excellent elements, like the cinematics which were gorgeous and the soundtrack that has always been extremely good. But it had some serious flaws, not only as a movie but especially as a star wars movie. Such as;

SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS

- Any situation that was difficult to escape from involved a quick panning shot away from the action and then the reveal of a ship escaping. No getting on board, no starting up the ship while under fire, just "Get to the ship......and.........we've escaped". It's fundamentally lazy and killed the tension in several scenes.

- The writers have gone completely off board in regards to any rules surrounding the force. They created abilities that have never been seen before without explanation, altered previous abilities just to fit the narrative which completely invalidated the ability in the first place. Just like my first point, it seemed like anytime something would be difficult to explain it was 'Just use the force' and things got fixed.

- The entire casino side plot was absurdly redundant. They didn't even find the guy they were looking for, but oh wait, no problem. We have a world class code breaker in our cell....convenient.

- The little asian chicks moral high grounding was nauseating and entirely unwanted. When she flew her ship into Finn's just because 'Ma loooove' when him sacrificing himself would have saved the rebel base. Like what the actual phuck.

- Leia flying through the sky was the dumbest thing I've ever seen.

- They spent an entire phucking movie (TFA) building up TWO THINGS. Rei's secret parantage and Snoke being a sith badass. Once again they were to PHUCKING LAZY to even follow through on these ideas. Rei's parents became 'meh who cares' and snoke gets phucking tricked by his cucklord apprentice and murked in the most anti-climactic way possible.

- Rei continues to be absurdly powerful, with virtually no training. Atleast before there was a possible explanation like 'Oh maybe her parents were super force sensitive' but now there isn't even a legit explanation. She is just an invincible character that runs around with no consequences to her actions. Literally none. Not to mention the phucking Kylo ren - Rei skype calls were beyond phucking stupid.

- Giant darkside hole on lukes island? Oh thats just a regular hole, sorry about that one.

- Kylo ren shirtless? Why not

- Captain Phasma? More like Captain phucking pointless. Let's torture them to death rather than shoot them, that classic James Bond villain mistake. Oh they escape? Oh who could have seen that coming.

- Luke wasn't killed because of his force holligram. Well we have no idea what to do with him in the next movie, so lets just have him PHUCKING MEDITATE TO DEATH!!!



The movie was SHOCKINGLY poor. The only people who like this movie are the fairweather star wars fans who never gave a phuck about the series their entire life until it was 'cool'.
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[QUOTE=PaddleBunt post_id=1537695961]The movie was horrendous. It had excellent elements, like the cinematics which were gorgeous and the soundtrack that has always been extremely good. But it had some serious flaws, not only as a movie but especially as a star wars movie. Such as;

[b]SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS[/b]

- Any situation that was difficult to escape from involved a quick panning shot away from the action and then the reveal of a ship escaping. No getting on board, no starting up the ship while under fire, just "Get to the ship......and.........we've escaped". It's fundamentally lazy and killed the tension in several scenes.

[b]I'm trying to think of moments where this happened. The only time I can think of it was Finn/Rose in the star destroyer. And the ship was blowing up. I don't think they were going to be shot at.[/b]

- The writers have gone completely off board in regards to any rules surrounding the force. They created abilities that have never been seen before without explanation, altered previous abilities just to fit the narrative which completely invalidated the ability in the first place. Just like my first point, it seemed like anytime something would be difficult to explain it was 'Just use the force' and things got fixed.

[b]So they could only go with the force powers based off of the OT and the PT? You don't think there are other powers? Were you upset when you watched the ESB and there was force ghost Obi Wan? Since they didn't have that in ANH? It would get extremely boring if no new powers would show up.[/b]

- The entire casino side plot was absurdly redundant. They didn't even find the guy they were looking for, but oh wait, no problem. We have a world class code breaker in our cell....convenient.

[b]I thought the casino side plot was cheesy, but it also showed the oppression of the lower class, and I think that kid with force powers at the end might be a big clue. [/b]

- The little asian chicks moral high grounding was nauseating and entirely unwanted. When she flew her ship into Finn's just because 'Ma loooove' when him sacrificing himself would have saved the rebel base. Like what the actual phuck.

[b]Agreed[/b]
- Leia flying through the sky was the dumbest thing I've ever seen.

[b]Agreed, but it was cool to see that Leia was also force sensitive.[/b]

- They spent an entire phucking movie (TFA) building up TWO THINGS. Rei's secret parantage and Snoke being a sith badass. Once again they were to PHUCKING LAZY to even follow through on these ideas. Rei's parents became 'meh who cares' and snoke gets phucking tricked by his cucklord apprentice and murked in the most anti-climactic way possible.

[b]Snoke was built up, but it was refreshing to see they had the balls to kill him off and make Kylo the sole bad guy. As for Rey, it's not surprising that her parents are nobodies. Just like that kid at the end, there clearly is a lot of force sensitive people in the universe.[/b]

- Rei continues to be absurdly powerful, with virtually no training. Atleast before there was a possible explanation like 'Oh maybe her parents were super force sensitive' but now there isn't even a legit explanation. She is just an invincible character that runs around with no consequences to her actions. Literally none. Not to mention the phucking Kylo ren - Rei skype calls were beyond phucking stupid.

[b]GTFO with this BS. Do you not remember Anakin? Arguably the most powerful jedi/sith lord, and he came from absolutely no where and had nobodies as parents.[/b]

- Giant darkside hole on lukes island? Oh thats just a regular hole, sorry about that one.
[b]Dagobah "forest" scene with Luke. did you complain about that?[/b]

- Kylo ren shirtless? Why not
[b]pleasing the fan girls I would assume[/b]

- Captain Phasma? More like Captain phucking pointless. Let's torture them to death rather than shoot them, that classic James Bond villain mistake. Oh they escape? Oh who could have seen that coming.

[B]Boba fett 2.0. I was disapointed with Phasma, but I wouldn't be surprised if she was still alive.[B]
- Luke wasn't killed because of his force holligram. Well we have no idea what to do with him in the next movie, so lets just have him PHUCKING MEDITATE TO DEATH!!!

[b]Luke's death was perfectly done. HE FORCE MINDED HIMSELF ACROSS THE UNIVERSE. He clearly was more powerful than Snoke, and Kylo even foreshadowed death by doing this while him and Rey were talking. [/b]



The movie was SHOCKINGLY poor. The only people who like this movie are the fairweather star wars fans who never gave a phuck about the series their entire life until it was 'cool'.[/QUOTE]
Answers are in bold. People bitched and moaned about the force awakens being too close of a remake of ANH, and now that we get something new and refreshing, people bitch that it's too different.
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