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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786
Yea, I'm sure she is fella... sure she is.
did you read any of my post, or you've just resorted to taking my hypothetical out of context?

this exchange has been incredibly stupid.
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786
Someone told me I'm too conservative for these boards.

It's true, my way of thinking about life is not feasible for the general population. I'm an idealist, I know. I live a very conservative lifestyle (by choice) and expect anyone who I'm in a romantic relationship to also be conservative in their sexual exploits.

You can demand a low slay count if yours is low too. If yours is high, you cannot expect to be with someone with a low count. It's perfectly okay for someone to reject you if you disclose your count and they're not keen on being with someone with that sort of experience.
The thing is I don't even care as much about the raw number (could have been multiple relationships), as her attitude towards it and if she continuously and proudly participated in ONS. Even if a girl told me she messed up years ago, had sex with a 'douchebag', but she looks back and feels ashamed/regret - I'm okay with that. I have some regrets too, I'm not perfect.
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786
I'm not sure what your point is homie.

In terms of courtship, it's perfectly acceptable to say "no" to a guy or for a guy to say "no" to a girl.

If you clarify your thought process, maybe I can answer better. Not sure what I'm responding to.
since men are at the mercy of women's discretion... women are the ones conforming behavior

e.g. as a male - do this and get sex

otherwise, you're talking about rape
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How can she have any love left for you when she's already experienced the same things with 20+ men before you ? The family is dead. Western society is dead. This whole place is now a cesspool of degenerate tatted up whores with personality disorders lusting after tatted up douchebrahs, fat bearded clonebrahs, or scrub potheads, It's 2017, if you're a straight white male hoping for a traditional life the tour is over. I've reached the point where ****ing whores is meaningless and leaves me feeling used and empty. I could get more pleasure from a bottle of wine. I'm sick of the cycle of meeting girls, filtering out the psychos, spending time getting to know them, starting to get feelings, for it to end with them wanting another cock and having to start the cycle all over again. It's ****ing exhausting and I can't take it anymore. Idk what I'm going to do now the whole point of me going to welding school was to make good money to give my family a good life. But now what's the point of killing myself going to be shaking with Parkinson's and won't remember **** by the time I'm 50, if I can't find a woman to have a family with? We're all ****ed. I'm checking out from this game I'm done with it all.
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Love these threads. So much **** gets thrown around and people lose their minds.
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"new pickup line" like any of these sloots has actually seriously approached.
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Originally Posted By sword_
How can she have any love left for you when she's already experienced the same things with 20+ men before you ? The family is dead. Western society is dead. This whole place is now a cesspool of degenerate tatted up whores with personality disorders lusting after tatted up douchebrahs, fat bearded clonebrahs, or scrub potheads, It's 2017, if you're a straight white male hoping for a traditional life the tour is over. I've reached the point where ****ing whores is meaningless and leaves me feeling used and empty. I could get more pleasure from a bottle of wine. I'm sick of the cycle of meeting girls, filtering out the psychos, spending time getting to know them, starting to get feelings, for it to end with them wanting another cock and having to start the cycle all over again. It's ****ing exhausting and I can't take it anymore. Idk what I'm going to do now the whole point of me going to welding school was to make good money to give my family a good life. But now what's the point of killing myself going to be shaking with Parkinson's and won't remember **** by the time I'm 50, if I can't find a woman to have a family with? We're all ****ed. I'm checking out from this game I'm done with it all.
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786
So since Western countries are very relaxed about promiscuity, and we choose to live in those countries, why are we even having this discussion then? All the people complaining about not finding a suitable partner to share their life with or complain about "used up" partners - they should just shut up about it because that's the environment we've created.

Made our bed, now we gotta lay in it.

The only problem: most people are NOT happy with what has become of our society.
Blaming this on the relaxed views about sex is disingenuous. The truth about life is that there were no real halcyon days. As a rule, most people in any society are displeased with it. Either times are tough, which brings about hardships or times are good, which brings about intellectually dissecting all the worst things about our world.

And casual sex will never disappear. It's what comes with female liberation and medical/technical advances making sex safe.
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if a man has a high body count, it means he has something women want, which means he has something that other men want, which makes him enviable.

if a woman has a high body count, it means she is a sloot. 99.9% of women have dink on tap in today's world.

the old padlock/key analogy. it's not wrong.

it's not a secret that men can separate sexual desire and emotional attachmentmuchbetter than women, which is why women who think they're empowered and having fun end up mentally unstable cum dumpsters in later life.
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Originally Posted By Xplicit_Mindz
Is having daughters the ultimate cuckoldry?

I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than having a daughter. Honestly, think about it rationally. You are feeding, clothing, raising and rearing a girl for at least 18 years solely so she can go and get ravaged by another man. All the hard work you put into your beautiful little girl - reading her stories at bedtime, making her go to sports practice, making sure she had a healthy diet, educating her, playing with her. All of it has one simple result: her body is more enjoyable for the men that will eventually **** her in every hole.
Raised the perfect girl? Great. Who benefits? If you're lucky, a random man who had nothing to do with the way she grew up, who marries her. He gets to **** her tight pussy every night. He gets the benefits of her kind and sweet personality that came from the way you raised her.
As a man who has a daughter, you are LITERALLY dedicating at least 20 years of your life simply to raise a girl for another man to enjoy. It is the ULTIMATE AND FINAL cuck. Think about it logically
Sounds like your wnna fuark your daughter tbh
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The next generation is mostly raised by single mothers and beta males willing to wife a single mom. Studies are showing the next generation is extremely conservative so maybe the next few generations will be raised by nuclear families. Or maybe they will be conservatives that are socially liberal.

This will be interesting.
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There is an interesting book called "Sex and Morality". There is a huge trend in history, that the more sexually promiscuous a civilization becomes, the closer it is to collapse. This stuff matters, no matter how many "You go girl" "sex positive" people say otherwise.
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Originally Posted By ScramFranklin
There is an interesting book called "Sex and Morality". There is a huge trend in history, that the more sexually promiscuous a civilization becomes, the closer it is to collapse. This stuff matters, no matter how many "You go girl" "sex positive" people say otherwise.
How many civilizations could they really have investigated? And how many civilizations collapsed totally irrespective of the sexual promiscuity of the inhabitants? And how many civilizations collapsed with a clear lack of sexual promiscuity? Honest question if you read the book; i'm interested in their methodology.
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Originally Posted By jimmyjabbar
How many civilizations could they really have investigated? And how many civilizations collapsed totally irrespective of the sexual promiscuity of the inhabitants? And how many civilizations collapsed with a clear lack of sexual promiscuity? Honest question if you read the book; i'm interested in their methodology.
It's been a few years since I read it, but it was a large number. The correlation was pretty clear. I don't remember the specifics though, sorry.
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How do miscers feel about it being different between men and women? The argument, that at a biological level, men are turned off by commitment to slooty women? Since you don't know if your child is actually yours if a women sleeps around and doesn't think sex is a big deal? While most women don't mind it for men as long as they will commit and settle down eventually, since a kid has to be theres if it is the only guy a women is seeing, and a guy that can get with lots of women would be seen as high value (good genes/resources).
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues
this exchange has been incredibly stupid.
Then why are we having it? O_o
Originally Posted By Luc1fer
The thing is I don't even care as much about the raw number (could have been multiple relationships), as her attitude towards it and if she continuously and proudly participated in ONS. Even if a girl told me she messed up years ago, had sex with a 'douchebag', but she looks back and feels ashamed/regret - I'm okay with that. I have some regrets too, I'm not perfect.
I agree. Some things should remain private. The whole world doesn't need to know your business. Hence I despise social media apps.
Originally Posted By propreffered7
since men are at the mercy of women's discretion... women are the ones conforming behavior

e.g. as a male - do this and get sex

otherwise, you're talking about rape
I think that was the point for Luc1fer to create this thread. There's nothing wrong with women being the gatekeepers of sex. They should have standards on who they're sleeping with. Just like men should too.
Originally Posted By jimmyjabbar
It's what comes with female liberation, and taking that away will do more harm than good (if it does any good).
Please elaborate on what harm it would bring.
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Originally Posted By ScramFranklin
How do miscers feel about it being different between men and women? The argument, that at a biological level, men are turned off by commitment to slooty women? Since you don't know if your child is actually yours if a women sleeps around and doesn't think sex is a big deal? While most women don't mind it for men as long as they will commit and settle down eventually, since a kid has to be theres if it is the only guy a women is seeing, and a guy that can get with lots of women would be seen as high value (good genes/resources).
You are all over the place. There's nothin "biological" about ensuring your property goes to your bloodline. Look at cultures where partible paternity is rampant. Ensuring your kid is really your kid is a function of property, not biology. Men adopt and raise kids. I volunteer for an organization that helps homeless children. There's zero biological impetus for that.

edit- I think I've overstated your position and strawmanned you. However, rest assured there are biological imperatives at play (nutting inside sugar walls) that AT THE VERY LEAST balance the biological impetus of ensuring those sugar walls belong to you alone, if not completely eclipse.
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Originally Posted By Xplicit_Mindz
Is having daughters the ultimate cuckoldry?

I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than having a daughter. Honestly, think about it rationally. You are feeding, clothing, raising and rearing a girl for at least 18 years solely so she can go and get ravaged by another man. All the hard work you put into your beautiful little girl - reading her stories at bedtime, making her go to sports practice, making sure she had a healthy diet, educating her, playing with her. All of it has one simple result: her body is more enjoyable for the men that will eventually **** her in every hole.
Raised the perfect girl? Great. Who benefits? If you're lucky, a random man who had nothing to do with the way she grew up, who marries her. He gets to **** her tight pussy every night. He gets the benefits of her kind and sweet personality that came from the way you raised her.
As a man who has a daughter, you are LITERALLY dedicating at least 20 years of your life simply to raise a girl for another man to enjoy. It is the ULTIMATE AND FINAL cuck. Think about it logically
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer
True, men really are pathetic slaves to sex and women leverage that.
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786
If you take an active part in creating "sloots" then why do you complain when there are not classy women left?
Do I need to bring up Dave Chappelle's Chilvary is Dead bit?

Women create sloots, or allow themselves to be sloots, men just take advantage of it.
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Originally Posted By MuzzieChik786
Please elaborate on what harm it would bring.
Removing freedoms from select people eschews the governing dictates of Western Society. Moreover, what you're preaching is to take away some of the most fundamental individual choices one can make in sake of an ideological utopia that may never come or a retreat into some glory past that never existed. It's an ugly idea based on dogmatic, puritanical and religious doctrines borne out of myopic thinking, imo. Society is never great and the vast majority are always unhappy with it; being unhappy with choices that you are relatively free to make is much preferable to an unhappiness made for you.
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues
You are all over the place. There's nothin "biological" about ensuring your property goes to your bloodline. Look at cultures where partible paternity is rampant. Ensuring your kid is really your kid is a function of property, not biology. Men adopt and raise kids. I volunteer for an organization that helps homeless children. There's zero biological impetus for that.

edit- I think I've overstated your position and strawmanned you. However, rest assured there are biological imperatives at play (nutting inside sugar walls) that AT THE VERY LEAST balance the biological impetus of ensuring those sugar walls belong to you alone, if not completely eclipse.
I was about to reply with something different then I saw your edit. I just think men want to put their time and resources (both limited) into an offspring theyre confident is their own. I'm not saying dudes are cucks for volunteering to help children and stuff, just that in general, we are pickier with choosing long term partners in terms of n count, and that may be a biological reason why. But yes, nutting in those sugar walls is also a huge biological imperative. Literally the most satisfying feeling ever.
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divorce laws have ruined the family unit more than anything - "Hey I know, lets make it incredibly easy for women to rape men in court. You don't think this will lead to a lot more divorce, do you?" I wonder if lawyers have their own lobbyists who push for stuff like this.
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Originally Posted By ScramFranklin
How do miscers feel about it being different between men and women? The argument, that at a biological level, men are turned off by commitment to slooty women? Since you don't know if your child is actually yours if a women sleeps around and doesn't think sex is a big deal? While most women don't mind it for men as long as they will commit and settle down eventually, since a kid has to be theres if it is the only guy a women is seeing, and a guy that can get with lots of women would be seen as high value (good genes/resources).
There's a bit more to it, but I agree with this. The crux of it is that a woman knows that the child is hers, a man doesn't - and cuckoldry is the worst possible evolutionary outcome for a male. Those genes that didn't defend against cuckoldry obviously died out of the genepool, and behaviors (mate guarding, not investing significant resources into slutty women) were selected for.
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues
You are all over the place. There's nothin "biological" about ensuring your property goes to your bloodline. Look at cultures where partible paternity is rampant. Ensuring your kid is really your kid is a function of property, not biology. Men adopt and raise kids. I volunteer for an organization that helps homeless children. There's zero biological impetus for that.

edit- I think I've overstated your position and strawmanned you. However, rest assured there are biological imperatives at play (nutting inside sugar walls) that AT THE VERY LEAST balance the biological impetus of ensuring those sugar walls belong to you alone, if not completely eclipse.
Nutting inside sugar walls is a biological imperative. Caution towards the follow up action ofcommitting resourcesto that woman and child (i.e. marriage etc), is also a biological imperative.
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer
Nutting inside sugar walls is a biological imperative. Caution towards the follow up action ofcommitting resourcesto that woman and child (i.e. marriage etc), is also a biological imperative.
Yes, that's what I just sed.



I was responding to that other fellow, who said "making sure your kids are your own blood is a biological imperative". I was saying, yes but nutting raw is also a biological imperative that often (and I believe quite empirically) supersedes the better angels of our less baser human nature.
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues
Yes, that's what I just sed.
"You are all over the place. There's nothin "biological" about ensuring your property goes to your bloodline."
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