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post 1538219001 12-21-2017, 01:24 PM
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Wtf happened to my thread
post 1538219121 12-21-2017, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted By numberguy12
Lol we are talking past each other, this isn't even worth it. You aredefiningathletic to be requiring strength....I am not. Simple as that.

You don't need lots of strength to run a marathon. You don't lots of need strength to play tennis. You don't need lots of strength to be good at soccer. These are athletes IMO.

As for flexibility, agility, stamina...etc....wow.....you can determine all of that from a picture? Interesting.
You don't need strength for soccer of tennis.... OK. Then why are the best in the world at those sports fukking ripped, and stronger than the average professional player?


I can tell you aren't agile and lack stamina from your photo, yes. And as I posted above, speaking strictly medically you are underweight.


We're not talking past each other. I'm responding directly to what you're saying and you are trying to rationalize the fact that you aren't athletic looking by trying to make a marginal case using one or two athletes in a sport that doesn't require much athleticism to begin with, completely glossing over the fact that the vast majority of athletes in those sports have way better physiques than you.

Also glossing over the fact that what we're really talking about here is you being in 'athletic shape' which implies that you look athletic. As I stated, the connotation there is that you have something that at least resembles muscle mass and/or definition. You do not.
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Wtf happened to my thread
u never seen a derailment breh?
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post 1538219461 12-21-2017, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted By Eatforgains
Wtf happened to my thread
Back to the topic. I don't how the hell you can lose that much weight in such a short timespan. I've been on a cut for almost a year now I'm only losing around 1 lb at best with around -1000 calorie deficit.

It blows my mind when I see people lose or gain fat or muscle, fast. Like wtf.
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post 1538220241 12-21-2017, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted By numberguy12
Lol we are talking past each other, this isn't even worth it. You aredefiningathletic to be requiring strength....I am not. Simple as that.

You don't need lots of strength to run a marathon. You don't lots of need strength to play tennis. You don't need lots of strength to be good at soccer. These are athletes IMO.

As for flexibility, agility, stamina...etc....wow.....you can determine all of that from a picture? Interesting.
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post 1538221111 12-21-2017, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted By Eatforgains
Wtf happened to my thread
Protein was too high to have been in keto, carbs a bit too high too; pretty much a low carb diet more than actual keto.
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post 1538221371 12-21-2017, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted By gbullock32
Protein was too high to have been in keto, carbs a bit too high too; pretty much a low carb diet more than actual keto.
Pretein intake doesn't really affect keto brah. It is like 100% about the scarcity of carbs. Ketone bodies are produced from fatty acids in the liver, not proteins.


PSMF has me eating 200g protein daily and I am in a state of constant ketosis.
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post 1538221521 12-21-2017, 01:45 PM
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Just went from 145 to 125 @ 5'9. It's horrible

Are you happy? Was it your goal to lose weight?
post 1538221721 12-21-2017, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted By Jacobcapra
You don't need strength for soccer of tennis.... OK. Then why are the best in the world at those sports fukking ripped, and stronger than the average professional player?


I can tell you aren't agile and lack stamina from your photo, yes. And as I posted above, speaking strictly medically you are underweight.


We're not talking past each other. I'm responding directly to what you're saying and you are trying to rationalize the fact that you aren't athletic looking by trying to make a marginal case using one or two athletes in a sport that doesn't require much athleticism to begin with, completely glossing over the fact that the vast majority of athletes in those sports have way better physiques than you.

Also glossing over the fact that what we're really talking about here is you being in 'athletic shape' which implies that you look athletic. As I stated, the connotation there is that you have something that at least resembles muscle mass and/or definition. You do not.





u never seen a derailment breh?
Yikes, think I struck a nerve with you.

While you can't judge speed, agility, flexibility, stamina from pics in an absolute sense....looking at your pics, I can almost promise you I'm more agile, fast, and flexible than yourself. Most would probably come to the same conclusion.

Using your logic......if you arenotRafa Nadal or a professional tennis player, you cannot be very, very good at tennis and be athletic. All those D-1 college tennis players......garbage. lol. Also did you miss my comment about Novak Djokovic? Do you consider him, who btw is one of the best tennis players in the world...to be "fukking ripped"? Huh? Or even take Roger Federer. "Fukking ripped"?

As for the medical definition of underweight....walk into almost any doctor's office and if there is any concern about being underweight, the first thing they will take note of is your BMI. Like it or not, 6'3 150 is a normal BMI. (Low normal, but normal). I was told this exact same thing by 3 different doctors--all of them referencing BMI......and they know a helluva lot more about this than you, random misc brah.

Finally, we are talking past each other indeed, because we are using differentdefinitionsof athleticism..you can't have any kind of rational argument about something you are defining differently. Logic 101.

With that said, I'm not trying to derail your thread OP, so I won't be responding.
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post 1538221871 12-21-2017, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted By Jacobcapra
Pretein intake doesn't really affect keto brah. It is like 100% about the scarcity of carbs. Ketone bodies are produced from fatty acids in the liver, not proteins.


PSMF has me eating 200g protein daily and I am in a state of constant ketosis.
Protein intake too high leads to glucogenesis which prevents keto.

https://www.perfectketo.com/how-too-...d-for-ketosis/
https://ketodietapp.com/Blog/post/20...Ketogenic-Diet
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post 1538222781 12-21-2017, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted By numberguy12
Yikes, think I struck a nerve with you.

While you can't judge speed, agility, flexibility, stamina from pics in an absolute sense....looking at your pics, I can almost promise you I'm more agile, fast, and flexible than you. I think anyone else comparing the pics would come to the same conclusion.......

Using your logic......if you arenotRafa Nadal or a professional tennis player, you cannot be very, very good at tennis and be athletic. All those D-college tennis players......garbage. lol. Also did you miss my comment about Novak Djokovkc? Do you consider him, who btw is one of the best tennis players in the world...to be "fukking ripped"? Huh? Or even take Roger Federer. "Fukking ripped"?

As for the medical definition of underweight....walk into almost any doctor's office and if there is any concern about being underweight, the first thing they will take note of is your BMI. Like it or not, 6'3 150 is a normal BMI. (Low normal, but normal). I was told this exact same thing by 3 different doctors......and they know a helluva lot more about this than you, random misc brah.

Finally, we are talking past each other indeed, because we are using differentdefinitionsof athleticism..you can't have any kind of rational argument about something you are defining differently. Logic 101. With that said, I'm not trying to derail your thread OP, so I won't be responding.
OK brah, you're right. 6'3 150 lb. is athletic, you don't look like you came from Auschwitz in your avi, and my several years of PL'ing and heavy weight training have not provided me any more agility than a marathon runner's physique. Also as you have so nicely pointed out, you shouldn't be able to judge my athleticism from my pics, right? How can you be so sure you're more athletic?


Speaking of logic, stating one or two athletes who do not look athletic does not redefine what it means to be athletic. That is called creating a marginal case, and is a logical fallacy. Most, literally like 99% of athletes have significant muscle mass and definition. Especially when we're talking about something besides tennis and running, which apparently are the only two sports you care to discuss.


BTW I agree with your definition of athletic, you just don't fit the description lmao. Enjoy your not responding and twink goals of 2018.
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post 1538223261 12-21-2017, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted By gbullock32
assuming you're referring to GNG (Gluconeogenesis).

GNG occurs with fats too, which is the whole point of being in Ketosis. No way you're eating enough protein to prevent ketosis. Like I said I was eating 200g protein with 10-20g fat and carbs, and was almost constantly in ketosis. Checked with the strips and everything.

But hey maybe that's just me.
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post 1538223501 12-21-2017, 02:02 PM
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That twink above ignored all the football and basketball players (who are 10x more athletic than Djokovkc) at his height, ripped and 185+ lol. At 6'4" 150 you have no muscle and underweight. Only hope like I said is if you run marathons and guess what they are underweight too
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