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post 1538379381 12-23-2017, 05:43 AM
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Quite common here in Europe where taxes are higher.


For the same price you can get a smart, dacia, renaukt clio....or a 15 yea old 5 series bmw station wagon , diesel, with only 150k-200k km.

Knowing the reliability of diesel bmws, the noise insulation and comfort for high speed highway driving,..do you really think people would rather spend the money on an small economy hatch???


Not to mention maintenance. I know some 320d e46 which in 250k km witb automatic transmissions, have only had the oil, filter and other fluids replaced, along with brakes.
post 1538379471 12-23-2017, 05:46 AM
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Are you guys spending really this much???

I dont want to beleive that the bmws in US have such low reliability
post 1538379541 12-23-2017, 05:49 AM
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and then the repair costs come in and then they realize why those eurotrash used cars were so cheap.
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post 1538379841 12-23-2017, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted By KRANE
Are they really better built or are they in fact, just under utilized? After all, even a Porsche 911 would last longer if only granny drove it to the market and to Sunday meetings.
Nah they are just better built. From the engine to the panel fitment to the ride quality and suspension, it’s all just better.
post 1538379911 12-23-2017, 06:01 AM
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Not my fault you guys are raped by the parts salesman....

Also, maybe have a look at bmws that arent top of the range?
post 1538380301 12-23-2017, 06:20 AM
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Meh, doesn't really apply where I'm from. Vehicles are taxed like crazy. A new 3 series with the lowest powered engine costs around 65k USD. Just adding M sport costs an additional 6k USD. Costs for parts and labor are high as fuk.

So buying a used one makes more sense, and even if it's 10 years old you still get status points from people because you don't see German cars anywhere near as often here.

I go to Miami fairly often and everywhere I turn there's a BMW/MB/AUDI. Especially with leasing those things are so common and cheap. I really don't get the big deal of having an old one there. Nobody should be bragging about that lol.
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post 1538380351 12-23-2017, 06:21 AM
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At least 50% of cars you see broken down at the side of the road are old German cars.
post 1538380491 12-23-2017, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted By PenorBrahNoHomo
At least 50% of cars you see broken down at the side of the road are old German cars.
Because 50+% of the cars in every western european country are German cars.
post 1538380711 12-23-2017, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted By RookieGER
Because 50+% of the cars in every western european country are German cars.
There are a lot in the UK, but not half. There are more French cars than anything else in France. Don't know about elsewhere.

Poverty people buy old German cars to appear like they're balling, tell everyone it's because of 'muh superior German engineering', then the cars break down.
post 1538381401 12-23-2017, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra
Lexuses (Lexii?) are simply better built than many cars on the market. A ten year old Lexus performs better, is more reliable and is generally better value than spending the same money on a new car.
I don't know about that, but if you buy a Lexus new and keep it for ten years because it still runs and you don't want a car payment, I don't see a problem.
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As time goes on and cars become more complicated, it's making more and more sense to me that owning a car out of warranty is not ideal. I'm sure that's exactlywhat the auto industry has been trying to do.
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I don't know about that, but if you buy a Lexus new and keep it for ten years because it still runs and you don't want a car payment, I don't see a problem.
His statement is absolutely true. Lexus has been at the top for a long time and not by accident.
post 1538381761 12-23-2017, 07:02 AM
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You see German cars broken down on the side of the road typically because people skimp on maintenance, buy the chittiest quality of parts they can because they are cheap, or try and fix it themselves and do a poor quality job. I see it all the time.
post 1538381791 12-23-2017, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted By EEBreh
You see German cars broken down on the side of the road typically because people skimp on maintenance, buy the chittiest quality of parts they can because they are cheap, or try and fix it themselves and do a poor quality job. I see it all the time.
Basically this.

In Europe, most cars you see broken down by the side of the road are actually italian, followed by french. Considering how much BMW, Mercedes and VAG sells, it's really saying something.
post 1538382271 12-23-2017, 07:15 AM
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A 10 year old luxury car is a better investment than a brand new one. Who was massive depreciation?
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Depends on intent, I'd suppose. I love Acuras--owned three TL's and two MDX's. I went from the third generation TL to the fourth and then back to the third because I loved it so much. I do have my sights set on the new TLX A-Spec, but I'm really bummed that (as of right now) it's styling only, hoping that performance upgrades are in the next iteration.

I'm also in love with 2002-2005 NSX's and wouldn't hesitate to buy one if the price were right.
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Originally Posted By krendan
Are you guys spending really this much???

I dont want to beleive that the bmws in US have such low reliability
These are solely luxury cars in the U.S. Typically high power, and always gasoline engines.
Originally Posted By Coal
Meh, doesn't really apply where I'm from. Vehicles are taxed like crazy. A new 3 series with the lowest powered engine costs around 65k USD. Just adding M sport costs an additional 6k USD. Costs for parts and labor are high as fuk.

So buying a used one makes more sense, and even if it's 10 years old you still get status points from people because you don't see German cars anywhere near as often here.

I go to Miami fairly often and everywhere I turn there's a BMW/MB/AUDI. Especially with leasing those things are so common and cheap. I really don't get the big deal of having an old one there.Nobody should be bragging about that lol.
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A 10 year old luxury car is a better investment than a brand new one. Who was massive depreciation?
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post 1538384501 12-23-2017, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted By KRANE
These are solely luxury cars in the U.S. Typically high power, and always gasoline engines.
Ok. Completely different.

Let me show you an example from Germany:
BMW 525d touring from 2009
https://www.autoscout24.com/offers/b...8811?cldtidx=3
12k EUR = 14.2K USD
120K km = 75K miles
197 BHP
6.6 L/100km = 35.6 MPG combined
diesel= 5.2 dollars per gallon

This is the type of car a family man drives after droping kids in school and goes to work by highway at 80mph (or above 120mph if you're in germany) for over 50 miles each way.


if you want a car to travel the continent that provides you with nice comfort AND noise insulation, this is the the car to buy. (and you have loads of them in germany above 150-200k miles).

You guys should really fight to get more of the german brands there. They have a lot of sensible options that are more than to just show off..
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A 2004 chit vehicle living is so appropriate for a town that smells like cow chit. lol@your life
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Originally Posted By steeperdolphin
Like an 04 MB SL500 with 60k that sat in a garage most of the time? 1 owner. Retired 78 year old engineer?


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lettuce be cereal if i had 25k euro to spend right know i'd choose a CLS 55 amg 2005 over a brand new toyota or vw
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Originally Posted By blackflgst
Worst financial decision ever just to get a couple looks from clueless sloots and people they don’t even know. Srs

if it’s a collectors item it’s a different story. Most of the time it’s someone who wants to “look” like they have money.

Brb $20k for a 10 year old BMW that’s out of warranty
Brand new car with warranty. Under 20k
I might blow your mind here OP, but would you rather buy a 10 year old BMW for $10,000 that lost $90,000 in value, or buy a brand new $100,000 BMW and keep it for 10 years and sell it for $10,000?


I recently bought a 21 year old car for $50,000 that was $110,000 new and its now going up in value. Do what you want OP
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Originally Posted By MillerDecaXC
I might blow your mind here OP, but would you rather buy a 10 year old BMW for $10,000 that lost $90,000 in value, or buy a brand new $100,000 BMW and keep it for 10 years and sell it for $10,000?


I recently bought a 21 year old car for $50,000 that was $110,000 new and its now going up in value. Do what you want OP
I can't embed but the 2004 SL500 I posted above was around $90k new. It is literally like brand new. I paid $10k.
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Originally Posted By blackflgst
Worst financial decision ever just to get a couple looks from clueless sloots and people they don’t even know. Srs

if it’s a collectors item it’s a different story. Most of the time it’s someone who wants to “look” like they have money.

Brb $20k for a 10 year old BMW that’s out of warranty
Brand new car with warranty. Under 20k
a new car for under 20K? Enjoy your Kia Rio


would definitely rather drive a 10 year old BMW M5 brah.
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Originally Posted By steeperdolphin
I can't embed but the 2004 SL500 I posted above was around $90k new. It is literally like brand new. I paid $10k.
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I see a lot of college students at my college with older 3 series BMWs and Mercedes and audis all the time. I'm sure there parents bought it but I don't get why bc none of the base models look impressive and really aren't status. Only status ones are newer sporty looking ones in my mind. Oh well, I prefer driving my truck anyways. Not that sloots would know this but trucks are more expensive anyways lol
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Most guys I know that buy older BMW's end up selling once they have their first $1K+ repair, which can be something as small as a window not rolling up correctly.
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Not as bad as people who buy boats from 1991 because they cant afford a boat.
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Originally Posted By MillerDecaXC
thatta boy. heres by baby



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