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post 1538812681 12-28-2017, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted By AmIGoodNuff
All i ask is whats wrong with diversity?
If America was 25% white, 25% black, 25% mexican, and 25% asian, what would the cons be?
Racism can be both a symptom and a disease.

There's no problem if they all assimilate. The problem is if the whites want the US to be run one way, the blacks another way, the mexicans another way, and the asians another way. When you have political division by race those divisions bleed into other aspects of life and manifest as racism. ESPECIALLY when politicians stoke prejudices to turn a voting bloc to their candidacy.
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Originally Posted By AmIGoodNuff
All i ask is whats wrong with diversity?
If America was 25% white, 25% black, 25% mexican, and 25% asian, what would the cons be?
The cons would be the astronomical crime rate for one
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Sounds like 45% have been brainwashed by the lib media. Whites are openly discriminated against when it comes to hiring practices and getting into college and openly by some lib-minded "yur white privilege!" kinds of SJW lunatics who are growing more prevalent.

Is the discrimination a big deal or comparable to what other races endured? Nope, previous generations of everyone from Chinese to blacks to the Native Americans had it exponentially worse -- but the problem with the white racism is that it's growing and while it might not be that big a deal right now, if it keeps getting worse it may end up that way.

Some of us don't want to pay privilege taxes or have our inheritances we are to receive or give taken away from us to hand over to minorities and **** like that.

At the end of the day, discrimination is wrong no matter the level of it, why do people like the OP care so much that someone is standing up for themselves? Everyone should - and they should stand up for others. I sure as **** wouldn't sit around if Latinos or Greeks or some random group were being discriminated against. Wrong is wrong.
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All I know is that as western nations become more "diverse", they're becoming more and more divided. Cities and schools look as segregated as prisons, people living among their own in insulated communities. Groups blaming other groups for every perceived slight, real or imagined.

Everyone wants a piece of the victim pie, and its us vs them at every possible level at this point (racially, gender vs gender, religious division, economic division).

This is all under prosperous conditions. Imagine what it's going to be like when we start to see some actual scarcity. People will divide on the most primitive level. Its going to be scary.

In order for a multicultural society to work, people need to find common ground and unite under shared values. Currently were seeing the exact opposite. And it's getting exponentially worse every year.
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Originally Posted By ladyferal
All these folks clamoring about "white genocide" are beyond reaching man. They'll tell you sociology isn't a legitimate field of study. They'll cherrypick and move goalposts and come up with all kinds of justifications for their poorly supported arguments. Somehow white people are simultaneously superior to all others and "responsible for all of civilization" but also in danger of extinction?
Anyone with half a brain will tell you sociology isn't a legitimate field of study. It's what people do in college when they don't want to go to class Thursday or Friday, so they have more nights to go out drinking and sleeping with strangers.
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The fact that Its “acceptable” to say White Privilege” tells you that there is an inherent bitterness for the past and that retribution is the only way to make them feel better.

If the minorities could vote to take everything from the whites they would do it in a heartbeat.

It’s only racism if it’s against you.

The fact an open and free election voted in a black President tells you racism in the grand scheme of things is pretty much over. If there’s an open racist, most people will condem them.

It’s now fashionable to hate on whites thanks to Obama’s doctrine of opening racial wounds. If we never mentioned race again it would be gone in another 30-Years. Now because of this reverse racism it’s almost set us back 30-years but they are too stupid to see this and just want handouts for their lack of success.
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Originally Posted By Andrew99
Because when you live in a world of White Privilege, a move to equality feels like discrimination.
The "privileges" of white societies have stemmed from a combination of hard-work and evolutionary genetics (namely intelligence) and not some imaginary idea of colonialism, theft, or murder. These of course have happened, but this is not unique to the white man.

Your logic: You shall be indebted forever (for being better), the fruits of your labor do not belong to you.

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Bottom line:
Equality of opportunity is a fine goal

Enforced equality of outcome of not

Any policy that discriminates against any group to further another is discrimination, and it is morally wrong regardless of excuse or circumstance

As far as historical oppression or systemic bias or anything else,get over it. Take a look at the diaspora Jews: they came over here 70 years ago. Many of them had their entire families gassed in Auschwitz, didn't speak the language, didn't have skills or training, and most people hated them or were at very least were biased against them and their culture. Within10 years, the Jewish people had the highest GDP of any group in the US, including whites. Stop complaining about what happened to your grandfather's grandfather's grandfathers grandfather. You don't need quotas or affirmative action or diversity training. A healthy person will never move as quickly on crutches. Soget to work.
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Originally Posted By stevedarsh
As far as historical oppression or systemic bias or anything else,get over it. Take a look at the diaspora Jews: they came over here 70 years ago. Many of them had their entire families gassed in Auschwitz, didn't speak the language, didn't have skills or training, and most people hated them or were at very least were biased against them and their culture. Within10 years, the Jewish people had the highest GDP of any group in the US, including whites. Stop complaining about what happened to your grandfather's grandfather's grandfathers grandfather. You don't need quotas or affirmative action or diversity training. A healthy person will never move as quickly on crutches. Soget to work.
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Originally Posted By stevedarsh
Bottom line:
Equality of opportunity is a fine goal

Enforced equality of outcome of not

Any policy that discriminates against any group to further another is discrimination, and it is morally wrong regardless of excuse or circumstance

As far as historical oppression or systemic bias or anything else,get over it. Take a look at the diaspora Jews: they came over here 70 years ago. Many of them had their entire families gassed in Auschwitz, didn't speak the language, didn't have skills or training, and most people hated them or were at very least were biased against them and their culture. Within10 years, the Jewish people had the highest GDP of any group in the US, including whites. Stop complaining about what happened to your grandfather's grandfather's grandfathers grandfather. You don't need quotas or affirmative action or diversity training. A healthy person will never move as quickly on crutches. Soget to work.
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"Affirmative action doesn't give blacks an unfair advantage over others because it helps some white women"
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"If it help some whitey, it ain't helpin"

Why waste time on simpletons that "think" like that?

To those who aren't completely indoctrinated, care of your loved ones, buy a gun for self defense, and keep your head on a swivel. And pretty much everything ladyferal lied about, take it with a grain of salt. Implying Africa is "stripped" of its resources is not only incorrect, its quite demeaning to the locals who simply don't have the means/knowledge to take advantage of it. Virtue signaling has a tendency to friendly fire like that.
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Originally Posted By ladyferal
This too. So many of the claims of discrimination that white folks make are based on "the dictionary says" with no real understanding or analysis of what systemic oppression is.
white racism doesnt exist but a conspiracy for the ultra wealthy to get white people to attack others IS going on? wow you are seriously uninformed like your average non reading white person thats never actually spent a day in your life thinking about the bull**** you spew.
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Originally Posted By andrew28
Whites used to make up 90% of the US population and now it’s at around 67%. It’ll be under 50% by 2040. Anything less than white people saying “Yayyy we’re giving our country away!!” is seen as racist.
You were on a roll until you got to this part. Noone's killing or stopping white people from popping out babies. Their dwindling numbers are their own fault.
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Because they are being discriminated against. All you have to do is look at the collection of Salon articles listed in the beginning of the thread.

However, the effect of that discrimination won't be nearly as powerful because so many of our institutions are made up of white people.

So black people and other minorities are right to be irritated - but not infuriated to the point where they accuse you of being a neo-nazi - when white people complain.

As for the selective nit-picking of history and the localization of "evil" to certain groups, that's just nonsense. The idea that only white europeans had slaves or oppressed other groups is so wrong and historically ignorant that there isn't much to say about it.

Every group on the planet has killed, raped, enslaved, oppressed, dominated, and discriminated.

However, the history of European colonalism and imperialism has dominated academia so kids are learning that it's only white people who do bad things. What they're not taught about is other atrocities committed by other groups like African tribes (Tulu and Huutu), the Japanese, the Mongols, the Turks, and many, many, many others.

History is incredibly sophisticated, far too sophisticated with too many variables to merely boil it down to "white priviledge," "racism and discrimination," and the "history of colonialism."
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Originally Posted By Maestro
You were on a roll until you got to this part. Noone's killing or stopping white people from popping out babies. Their dwindling numbers are their own fault.
Actually cultural Marxism (through feminism) has told women that Men are evil oppressive patriarchs and turned them into man hating blue-haired land whales, which has directly contributed to a reduction in the birth rate. Other factors include higher living standards in the US, which in most countries usually results in lower birth rates. 3rd world immigrants come in and outbreed the indigenous population by around 2.5-3:1 ratios.
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Originally Posted By 2RDEYE
white people don't even want to work cheap labour. they rather go homeless or live off welfare. there's a lot of skilled immigrants but their degree and experience usually counts for nothing because its overseas. i know someone who used to be a doctor in asia and couldn't find a job as a doctor here because he has to go back to school again.
I know a couple of Iranians and two Vietnamese in that same situation, they're working at the same hospital I am as freakin' Technicians, when they were Doctors in their home country. They cleanly know their chit (some moreso than the actual practicing American physicians) but their biggest hurdle is the TOFEL, which even most Americans wouldn't pass. There's only a certain number of times you can take it (3 times, I believe, and you have to pass with an 80%) and if you fail all those times, then you have to wait 10 years to be able to take it again.
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Originally Posted By foreverSNAFU
Misc is specifically a U.S. forum?

Why aren't the Chinese bitching about their enslavement by the Manchu from 1635-1900? Or their treatment in America while building the railroads?
Because it was chinese enslaving other chinese. Their treatment when building the railroads was harsh, but they intentionally came here toworkwhich means they got paid (they weren't slaves). At worst some of them were under indentured servitude.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser
Actually cultural Marxism (through feminism) has told women that Men are evil oppressive patriarchs and turned them into man hating blue-haired land whales, which has directly contributed to a reduction in the birth rate. Other factors include higher living standards in the US, which in most countries usually results in lower birth rates. 3rd world immigrants come in and outbreed the indigenous population by around 2.5-3:1 ratios.
This argument falls flat because mexican black and asian girls are experiencing the same level of "cultural Marxism" as white girls. Its not their fault that for whatever reason white girls are more susceptible to it.

I live in New Mexico and work in an Emergency Room. There are mexican families that come in with 5 kids, the mom stays at home and the dad works a minimum wage job, If white people actually cared about their progeny as much as mexicans they'd be doing the same thing. Its not a form of oppression, white people just don't care. They'd rather be bachelors and bachelorettes banging randoms on a weekly basis instead of starting a family.
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Originally Posted By Maestro
This argument falls flat because mexican black and asian girls are experiencing the same level of "cultural Marxism" as white girls. Its not their fault that for whatever reason white girls are more susceptible to it.
Are they? Cultural Marxism is largely targeted at white people.
Originally Posted By Maestro
I live in New Mexico and work in an Emergency Room. There are mexican families that come in with 5 kids, the mom stays at home and the dad works a minimum wage job, If white people actually cared about their progeny as much as mexicans they'd be doing the same thing.Its not a form of oppression, white people just don't care. They'd rather be bachelors and bachelorettes banging randoms on a weekly basis instead of starting a family.
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because nowadays being black gives you better privileges than white. You can get away with anything just by using the race card and blaming whites.
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Originally Posted By andrew28
Because history has shown us time and time again that diversitys make everything a racial/cultural turf war.
Here's a video game analogy for you. In the newest Legend of Zelda game. all the races have their own tribes and towns but there is a side quest in which you can help a guy make a town from scratch, andin the end it becomes inhabited by all of the different races in the Land of Hyrule. That town is America. There is no homogeny in America because it was founded on racial diversity. That is what AMIGOODNUFF is talking about...racial diversity, not cultural diversity.
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Absolutely no evidence of widespread racism, institutionalized or otherwise, against any demographic.

Laughably bad political “science” and sociology literature try to demonstrate otherwise. Publications in those fields carry about as much weight as a high school english paper. They do nothing but dress up correlation=causation in a bunch of worthless jargon.
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Funny how people whine about Affirmative Action yet white women are the biggest benefactors of it...I don't know how they fooled everyone to believe that they are a 'minority' or under represented and now they are destroying the workplace with sexual allegations taking all men alike out lmao.
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Originally Posted By sword_
Funny how people whine about Affirmative Action yetwhite women are the biggest benefactors of it...I don't know how they fooled everyone to believe that they are a 'minority' or under represented and now they are destroying the workplace with sexual allegations taking all men alike out lmao.
Affirmative action is discriminatory on the basis of both race as well as sex. I think we can largely thank the victim narratives spun by feminists for the underlined.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser
Affirmative action is discriminatory on the basis of both race as well as sex. I think we can largely thank the victim narratives spun by feminists for the underlined.
Totally dude. Funny enough working in tech I have RARELY seen a black woman in the workplace. I've seen some hispanic women but the ones in sales/hr/marketing/etc are mostly white women and I know if I brush up against one of them wrong I will get it in trouble. Kinda joking but kind of serious.

Part of the reason I don't ride for issues of white / third wave feminists is because it only caters to white females that want a bigger cut of white privilege in society.
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