I agree with this a lot. Because i remember it in my olden days

I think people are just presumptuous/ pattern seeking

I would have technically been "beta" based on the way i handled chit. But i also definitely wasnt as i was an athlete who thrived on competition

You also have to add in the competition with women; it may be other men that are causing that "spark" as opposed to not being attracted to you

I hear you brah. I've gone pretty much NC. Will see if she contacts me and wants to do something. Not holding my breath though.

No, I agree with your point about staying in shape (to an reasonable extent), and working on the relationship. You can’t just give up once the ring is on the finger.

All relationships are conditional, even if people like to think otherwise. But that doesn’t mean you have to be constantly on edge either. People give up way too easily nowadays to move onto the next “perfect” person.

Oh, I don’t have to worry about a woman being with me for great sex, I’m average at best

But I did date a girl that was clearly with me for my body/looks. I actually felt objectified lol, and no way could I stay with someone like that.

I agree that you have to stay on top of things each day, but I disagree that none of the things you mentioned are true. All seem to be true, and I'd argue that that is specifically WHY you have to stay on top of things each day. But I am woefully unqualified to speak on such matters, so I will defer to your judgment since you are obv more experienced in this.

Or maybe love doesn't really exist at all, and it's just some made up chit. It's all just chemicals in the brain, and people rationalizing why they want to mate with someone. Then 5 years later, it starts to evaporate, and you either stay together begrudgingly for the kids and remember good memories or you bang other people and start the cycle over again.

To me, it feels like she was just being civil about "the spark." She really meant she didn't get the vajayjay tingles which could be for any number of reasons...

Yes but many people don't start fng up right off the bat. People absolutely can change over the course of 10 or 15 years.

So the bright eyed go getter a girl married at 23 might not be a go getter at 33 or 43.

The guy that treated her well in the first 8 yrs might have treated her bad in the last 8.

My marriage was pretty good the first 12 yrs. Last 12 were hell on earth.

Point being we can't all see the future and Noone is exempt from life circumstances changing the person they matried.

A very very very small amount of people make a perfect choice the first time.

I don't necessarily think these women want to party into their 50s but like me after one marriage they know life is too short to settle on anything that doesn't look damned near perfect.

So I'd say the higher value she is the more gun shy she might be.

These aren't trailer trash I date. They're executives, doctors, lawyers, business owners etc.

Not Walmart greeters.

There's no point analysing why she (edit) chose the words she did. Girls have a hard time quantifying feelings so instead if saying "I don't feel compelled to see him on a romantic basis the say;

"We didn't click"
"There wasn't chemistry/a spark"
"There wasn't a wow factor"
Or some other bs.

For guys "spark" is mostly a) we find her hot and b) conversation bounces back and forth with little effort. We can actually express what it is because we quantify what we feel instead of just going with it.

Leo we have to agree to disagree I'm afraid. I don't care what jobs they're working they're old, probably cranky and living with has a high likelihood of being a nightmare. "Life's too short" f off (not to you, I generally dislike the expression as it's oft an excuse for degeneracy).

not really, a lot of girls know exactly how they feel but saying "we didn't connect" is just a lot nicer than saying something like "you're too beta for me"

Didn't read through but did everyone ignore the *******ry in the form of his nose piercing

Cool dude. Honestly if he just left i bet shed be contemplating what she did. Even moreso if she saw him with another woman

That being said notice how she points out him being really "manly" when he tells her to put the bill down.

He gets a bit declarative and she perks up

Eh, no.

lol thats the most bull**** thing i've ever heard, ive had some girl i was ****in with say no to me for a relationship, she is now in a relationship with this rich dude.

This rich dude is bisexual, more gay than straight. Coz i use to hang with this dude and we would go out to pull girls, he pulled more guys than girls lol but i didnt care coz he was rich and bought us all drinks.

another girl i tried to get with, was the same ethnicity as me, but she turned me down, she ended up marrying this white nerdy dude, who looked like someone we would fuk with in highschool for being a geek. she chose hypergamy.

the thing is coz of certain influences (media, upbringing, culture etc) girls have a certain type of guy they are looking for. Girls usually follow trends, so right now guys with beards and tatts are the in thing.

doesnt matter if you are attractive or not, she will see you as being attractive and still disregard you coz you dont fit some stupid mould of guy they are looking for in their head. Half of the girls on the misc say they dont find Brad Pitt Attractive and they dont understand the hype because hes not "their type"

Girls know what they "want", but its not necessarily something that they want, its just something they have been influenced by (usually media).

i'll give you why guys dont get influenced by this ****, especially in dating.

The in thing right now is big bootys, kim kadarshian etc.

If an attractive woman who looked like Jessica Alba showed interest in a random miscer who was obsessed with booties, he would not say no to her and he would try to pursue a relationship because he isnt a retard and he knows whats attractive.

where-as absolute Chads of Chads have been rejected by women because of superficial reasons (dont like their accent, no beard, not 6"8 in height etc)

in summary women actually dont know what the **** they are doing in the dating game, and everyone knows this

the spark shes looking for is a psychopathic, tattooed ex con who abuses her

Can confirm. I know he's not ugly, but I've never understood how he was considered a heartthrob, don't find him physically attractive at all.

I'm not sure what people having different tastes has to do with women not knowing what they want.

Yes I am aware I cherry picked what to reply to, can't be fked having a proper conversation about it, but that part particularly popped out to me.

Surely if what we want is influenced by media not what we actually want then all of the female miscers would find Brad Pitt attractive because the media has certainly told us he is.

He just means women follow trends

Brad Pitt was the trendsetter and peak of good looks in the 90s etc
Tattoos and whatever else is the current trend.
And whatever trend comes in future women will hop on the bandwagon and seek a man with those specific qualities and deny a man void of those attributes


I see his point, there is a tiny bit of truth to it, but end of the day the situation isn’t that deep, you’re still gonna be able to attract a lot of girls if you’re above average regardless if you fit a transient trend.

I kind of get it, but his example was of us not liking Brad Pitt and therefore not following the trend, hence my confusion.

Male miscers tend to hnnng over Brad Pitt, not female miscers.

Agree with your last paragraph for sure.

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Brad Pitt, Leo Dicaprio, and Jason Momoa making billions of poosies dripping wet since 1950

The only reason Jason Momoa isn't top 1 is because he looks weird without a beard, sorry beardcels.

the nose ring and haircut make the dude look gay

Case in point

Quite like Jason Momoa though. Leo is above Brad, not a fan of Brad at all.

What do you think of Ryan Reynolds and gosling? Both have been my man crushes for several years (no homo)

Been a Reynolds fan since two guys and a girl. Gosling is kinda feminine to me.

That guy spelt it out for you, brad pitt was a trend in the 90s, the new trend is beards and tatts.

But brad pitt is good looking without a beard and a tatt. Since you are only influenced by what todays trends are you dont find brad attractive as he doesnt fit your "type"

Whereas all male miscers know what is attractive regardless of trends.

Attraction is a simple thing where something is attractive or not. Women just tend to overcomplicate things.

Same...watched that show religiously as a kid, was happy to see him blow up.

Gosling is all man, watch your mouth mami. I presume you’re basing your opinion from that ****gy film lala land. Watch his good films like ‘Drive’ and he’ll grow on you I reck..

Thats true you will be able to attract alot of females, but you will have instances like the vid in the op where the girl was attracted to the guy but because she has a type in her head and the guy doesnt fit that type, you may get rejected just like the guy in the video.

This girls ex was obviously her type and she cant get over that, and wants someone else who fits the mould.

Miscers are assuming that the ex was a badboy, he could have just been indian like her who knows what her type is. But the reality of the situation is that coz of that she didnt give a perfecrtly normal attractive guy a chance

Why do miscers act like rejection is just exclusive to women? Men reject women too. I can't say for sure whether she had ONE type of man in her head, perhaps she just didn't feel a connection which is understandable. She may not have had a preconceived type she was going for (okay, she probably did) but a woman can always be swept off her feet. Anyone can make their mark on someone.

I think you need to stop putting this dude on the pedastal because he's alright looking, doesn't give him a free pass in life. I think miscers think because someone has a few good qualities, that the counter person ought to be attracted, but it doesn't happen that way. Connection/chemistry is a real thing, and if the feeling of genuine attraction isn't there, then what good is good looks? (in regards to the potential of a relationship, not talking about a ONS). Ultimately, there still needs to be a bond, good looks and being well mannered doesn't warrant attraction or a second date.

Thing about this show is that everything is so heavily edited that it's hard to grasp a true view of what's really going on. He did seem a bit too nice imo, but that's just because I'm more into speaking candidly and tossing a few negs, each to his own though.

higher than a five...bro lol

Shes not as attractive as everyone is making out ITT, but she’s not a 5. A 5 is almost shameful bang level. She’s somewhere in the 6 range, Big difference between a 5 and 6

Never watched lalaland. Think they only one I've seen with him in is stay. Not sure though. Basing off looks.I reckon about a 7. Good looking but not holy fk good looking like an 8.

5 is plain Jane average imo, about where I'd rate myself. That being said misc standards she probably is a 5, just not rl standards
Fair enough. I didn't know the general public opinion of Pitts attractiveness had changed, so that explains my confusion

This place is heavily, heavily biased towards looks - it’s a bodybuilding forum after all. Looks are weighted way too high, and miscers think that literally looks is all that matters in attraction LMAO

That’s why most of them are FA and in the gym perfecting their 6-packs, while average looks Joe is out dating successfully.

young brad pitt is objectively good looking

above jason and dicaprio for me

i mean who could refuse this