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post 1541208431 01-19-2018, 08:03 PM
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So...what was BEFORE the big bang exactly?

i mean...what was there? how was there anything for the universe itself to expand into?
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Originally Posted By RushEm⏩
i mean...what was there? how was there anything for the universe itself to expand into?
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post 1541208561 01-19-2018, 08:05 PM
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God made everything , the Big Bang is a hoax no proof it exists
post 1541208691 01-19-2018, 08:07 PM
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post 1541208731 01-19-2018, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted By AVIK777⏩
God made everything , the Big Bang is a hoax no proof it exists
I believe this too.

Still have yet to hear responses from people about how the "Big Bang" just happened out of nowhere.
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Your entire concept of "before" is based on the dimension of time. So, you'll need to figure out what you mean by "before" time. Now, if you are asking if there is some logical causal structure, such that our universe was the outcome of a more general structure, a lot of scientists believe this is the case, but obviously, anything at this point is speculative. There are ideas, such as that our universe is embedded in a larger structure, in which brane interactions caused an inflationary event, or that our universe is embedded in a giant fractal, which constantly branches out and produces baby universes with different parameters, or that our universe is stuck in a periodic cycle...Nobody knows.
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I believe in God and that God set everything into motion. While I consider myself Christian I dont believe the bible is accurate word for word - I believe human flawed influence got some things wrong.

I googled what set the big bang in motion. I read a few paragraphs of theories. Theyre absolutely fascinating.
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We obviously dont know and there is no way of telling because our concept of space and time is limited to our universe. We can use partical accelerators to study the conditions planck units after the big bang but anything before that is out of our relm of knowledge. Tons of instresting multiverse theories though, just pure conjecture.
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post 1541208881 01-19-2018, 08:09 PM
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It's not possible to even theorize. All we know is that at t = 0, all of the mass and energy that there ever was and ever will be was condensed into a singular point. At t > 0, it began expanding to form the universe as we now know.
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Big Bang made everything, God is a hoax no proof it exists.

I have still yet to hear responses from people how "God" just happened out of nowhere.




*** this argument works both ways.......
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Originally Posted By BowlingWizard⏩
I believe this too.

Still have yet to hear responses from people about how the "Big Bang" just happened out of nowhere.
what was before god?
Belief without evidence is a fools game.

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same amount of evidence supports big bang theory and theory how God created it, fact is science had to come up with something and this is what they got, they have no phuking idea, just a bunch of theories with low amount of proof
if i woke up from total amnesia and hear both stories, God would probs make more sense
however i am a christian so i will pray for those heathens
Originally Posted By eddiegoodfellar⏩
Big Bang made everything, God is a hoax no proof it exists.

I have still yet to hear responses from people how "God" just happened out of nowhere.

*** this argument works both ways.......
but religion isnt based on facts u can 100% prove, its based on faith, you believe in something all powerfull that created us and known universe, science is based on facts and fact is science has no clear evidence how everything came to by, only theories, and anyone can make up a theory
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Originally Posted By eddiegoodfellar⏩
Big Bang made everything, God is a hoax no proof it exists.

I have still yet to hear responses from people how "God" just happened out of nowhere.




*** this argument works both ways.......
Nice personal and non stolen view you have there
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I believe the theory is that it keeps expanding and collapsing over and over.
Probably improving every time.
Dinosaurs got boring so God made humans.
Humans will get boring so he'll probably make cyborg mutants or something.
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Originally Posted By SerbianSickKant⏩
same amount of evidence supports big bang theory and theory how God created it, fact is science had to come up with something and this is what they got, they have no phuking idea, just a bunch of theories with low amount of proof
if i woke up from total amnesia and hear both stories, God would probs make more sense
however i am a christian so i will pray for those heathens
and if you were raised muslim you would pray for those infidels etc etc
Originally Posted By AVIK777⏩
Nice personal and non stolen view you have there
You got to be kidding me...
Belief without evidence is a fools game.

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Originally Posted By CoolKnees⏩
It's not possible to even theorize. All we know is that at t = 0, all of the mass and energy that there ever was and ever will be was condensed into a singular point. At t > 0, it began expanding to form the universe as we now know.
What about when t < 0 ?
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We don't have any point of reference to determine before that. We can observe that everything is expanding outward from a central point, but the evidence for everything else is billions of years old. Just hard to do.

Doesn't mean you need to use an invisible space wizard to fill in the gaps of your knowledge.
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Originally Posted By Lawlstud⏩
what was before god?
Not trying to get into a religious debate and I respect everyone's viewpoints but... I believe that God is eternal. He has always been here, before the universe existed, before anything existed. It would be impossible to ask what was before him because time did not exist at one point either, there was no way to measure it. Time began once he created the universe.
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Originally Posted By Lawlstud⏩
and if you were raised muslim you would pray for those infidels etc etc


You got to be kidding me...
thread was going fine, solid arguments from all sides than a butthurt atheist comes and goes mad on every religious reply, classic lol
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Originally Posted By SerbianSickKant⏩
same amount of evidence supports big bang theory and theory how God created it, fact is science had to come up with something and this is what they got, they have no phuking idea, just a bunch of theories with low amount of proof
if i woke up from total amnesia and hear both stories, God would probs make more sense
however i am a christian so i will pray for those heathens
The big bang is supported by mountains of evidence. You can believe in god without outright dismissing a very studied and widely accepted theory (scientific theory which is a much higher standard than just a “theory”) of our universes’ expansion. Tons of articles and resources are available if you are actually intrested in how we know what we do.
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Originally Posted By SerbianSickKant⏩
thread was going fine, solid arguments from all sides than a butthurt atheist comes and goes mad on every religious reply, classic lol
Solid arguments from all sides aka memes?

No one is upset or butthurt, you know this so why say that? All I did was say a very mild rebuttal and look how you're acting.
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Nah but really it's an eternal cycle. Once the universe fully expands it actually starts to recede back in, then once it all reaches the center again there's another big bang creating another universe.
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Originally Posted By Lawlstud⏩
You got to be kidding me...
Yes ?
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Originally Posted By AVIK777⏩
Yes ?
The point of his reply was to show the argument as a fallacy, but yes I'd imagine a "stolen viewpoint" (lol at that argument) is probably a better place to spend your energy.

Which brings the 2nd point. I don't imagine you misinterpreted what he was saying, which makes your response even more confusing. You're either purposely acting ignorant and as an angle to avoid replying to his point, or you really did completely misunderstand what he was saying even though he included in subtext exactly what his point was.
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Nothing exists before time exists.

My guess, our universe is a 3 dimensional event horizon of a 4 dimensional black hole.
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Originally Posted By SerbianSickKant⏩
same amount of evidence supports big bang theory and theory how God created it, fact is science had to come up with something and this is what they got, they have no phuking idea, just a bunch of theories with low amount of proof
if i woke up from total amnesia and hear both stories, God would probs make more sense
however i am a christian so i will pray for those heathens


but religion isnt based on facts u can 100% prove, its based on faith, you believe in something all powerfull that created us and known universe, science is based on facts and fact is science has no clear evidence how everything came to by, only theories, and anyone can make up a theory
You sir don't really know what a theory is..........
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My guess? Nothingness. Pure nothingness. A void.

I have no way of explaining how something came from nothing, but apparently it was somehow possible.
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