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thats sad man, i think you should go with a baby again.
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Originally Posted By djansen⏩
Thanks man, hoping you're right.Dang bro sorry to hear that. Don't beat yourself up about it though, that's just part of keeping reptiles sometimes. It sounds like you did everything right but like you said sometimes something is just off from the start.
your setup looks good. Sounds like you got a healthy dragon so just let him chill for a while before handling him and you should be good to go.
your setup looks good. Sounds like you got a healthy dragon so just let him chill for a while before handling him and you should be good to go.
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My only concern is that the baby available is 1/3, and mine died, and 1 of the other 2 was looking similar when I was at the shop. I would be pretty hesitant to purchase the 3rd just due to the chance of something being wrong.thats sad man, i think you should go with a baby again.
Also I imagine babies are more popular, and wouldn't mind giving a good home to an older guy. I guess I'll see when I get there. When I talked to him he said "I have the other still", not other two.......so I'm wondering if the other one that I saw there looking lethargic died too.
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333⏩
thats true, has he offered to give you your money back for the baby?My only concern is that the baby available is 1/3, and mine died, and 1 of the other 2 was looking similar when I was at the shop. I would be pretty hesitant to purchase the 3rd just due to the chance of something being wrong.
Also I imagine babies are more popular, and wouldn't mind giving a good home to an older guy. I guess I'll see when I get there. When I talked to him he said "I have the other still", not other two.......so I'm wondering if the other one that I saw there looking lethargic died too.
Also I imagine babies are more popular, and wouldn't mind giving a good home to an older guy. I guess I'll see when I get there. When I talked to him he said "I have the other still", not other two.......so I'm wondering if the other one that I saw there looking lethargic died too.
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Most the times I preferred to get them as babies and watch them grow.
This girl below I adopted her when she was well over 4 years old in need of a new home..she is almost 7 now and she is still healthy and active as ever.

This girl below I adopted her when she was well over 4 years old in need of a new home..she is almost 7 now and she is still healthy and active as ever.


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Originally Posted By EnriqueBrah⏩
He offered to replace no problem, I didn't ask about the money but judging by his personality and my talks with him I'm sure he'd do it.thats true, has he offered to give you your money back for the baby?
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Cute! I'm all about giving animals good homes, especially some that could be overlooked.Most the times I preferred to get them as babies and watch them grow.
This girl below I adopted her when she was well over 4 years old in need of a new home..she is almost 7 now and she is still healthy and active as ever.

This girl below I adopted her when she was well over 4 years old in need of a new home..she is almost 7 now and she is still healthy and active as ever.


The Baby was going for $65, and the adult $100 I think..... if he's willing to discount the adult a little for the troubles I'll probably take him home. I really am not comfortable taking the baby with the events that happened with his siblings.
Will report back to you guys tomorrow and let you know what happens. As always, thanks for the input.
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As always, best of luck and hope it works out. You're properly prepared and everything. It's all spot on with your setup.
This girl is pregnant right now, there's specks of dirt in the sink because she just got out of her laybox and laid several eggs.

This girl is pregnant right now, there's specks of dirt in the sink because she just got out of her laybox and laid several eggs.

01-23-2018, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted By Deathstroke⏩
Have you ever gotten to witness the eggs starting to hatch? How from laying-hatching is it usually? I'm really fascinated by this stuff.As always, best of luck and hope it works out. You're properly prepared and everything. It's all spot on with your setup.
This girl is pregnant right now, there's specks of dirt in the sink because she just got out of her laybox and laid several eggs.

This girl is pregnant right now, there's specks of dirt in the sink because she just got out of her laybox and laid several eggs.

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01-23-2018, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333⏩
No yet! Her next clutch will be after mating with Prince (the dude in the vid on last page). Eggs can take as little as 40 days to hatch and as long as 90. My breeder friend averages 50-60 days. Final eggs hatched day 79.Have you ever gotten to witness the eggs starting to hatch? How from laying-hatching is it usually? I'm really fascinated by this stuff.
I got the incubation stuff. I am excited for this. I may also start my ball python breeding project.
01-23-2018, 11:23 AM
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Deathstroke, I’m also planning on breeding Ball pythons. Taking it slow though.
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Originally Posted By EnriqueBrah⏩
f*ck yeah man! IN! I cannot wait. This will be good.Deathstroke, I’m also planning on breeding Ball pythons. Taking it slow though.
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Originally Posted By djansen⏩
I have a lesser and a Mojave, I always wanted a Lucy.DS and EB what are your potential parings for ball pythons?
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01-23-2018, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted By EnriqueBrah⏩
Awesome, one of my favs (the blue eyed).I have a lesser and a Mojave, I always wanted a Lucy.
may the odds gods be with you...
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01-23-2018, 06:58 PM
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my spider female Charlotte and my male banana bumble bee Axl I want to pair for sure. Just to gain some experience in pairing.
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Originally Posted By Deathstroke⏩
What’s the Axl?my spider female Charlotte and my male banana bumble bee Axl I want to pair for sure. Just to gain some experience in pairing.
Those axanthic morphs are sick. I love the black and white look.
Leopard clown spotnose also look 10/10
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So I went a different route last night. I asked for a refund for the baby that died. Got it no problem. We stopped by another local reptile shop which is much more sophisticated and professional. We ended up getting an 8 month year old beardy. Definitely in great health. He is very alert, and absolutely mauled the crickets we gave him last night. My daughter named him "Heart". I need to upgrade his habitat though, as the 30 will have to do for a couple days. I am going to make him a new habitat Thursday night out of a dresser. It will be 36" long x 24" high and fairly deep. Will depend on the cabinet I use.
Here is my plan:
Cut large square out of the top to insert a screen similar to the top of an aquarium. Create a framed door on the front out of plexiglass/wood trim that will open and close for easy access for feeding/taking out to handle. Mostly so my daughter can reach and start giving him his veggies/fruits. Will use tan linoleum tile on the floor, and add branches, hammock, hide ect. for him. I want to give him decent climbing room. I will do some kind of controlled environment feeding, such as maybe using the old 30 gallon and storing it under his new habitat. This way I don't have to worry about bugs getting through cracks, and I can make sure he's eating them all.
Here is a pic of the new guy. Let me know if its showing, I can't tell if imgur stuff shows on this forum or now. I put the http: below incase it doesn't load.

https://imgur.com/gallery/fXDP1
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Here is my plan:
Cut large square out of the top to insert a screen similar to the top of an aquarium. Create a framed door on the front out of plexiglass/wood trim that will open and close for easy access for feeding/taking out to handle. Mostly so my daughter can reach and start giving him his veggies/fruits. Will use tan linoleum tile on the floor, and add branches, hammock, hide ect. for him. I want to give him decent climbing room. I will do some kind of controlled environment feeding, such as maybe using the old 30 gallon and storing it under his new habitat. This way I don't have to worry about bugs getting through cracks, and I can make sure he's eating them all.
Here is a pic of the new guy. Let me know if its showing, I can't tell if imgur stuff shows on this forum or now. I put the http: below incase it doesn't load.
https://imgur.com/gallery/fXDP1
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he's adorable
Heads up, they eat a lot! they have a bottomless stomach
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I really strongly mirin the tile shade! He looks good too.
Enrique he's a banana bumblebee, I named him Axel. Hes not one of those metallic axl morphs...god don't I wish? Don't we all wish!
Enrique he's a banana bumblebee, I named him Axel. Hes not one of those metallic axl morphs...god don't I wish? Don't we all wish!
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Originally Posted By Deathstroke⏩
Nice!my spider female Charlotte and my male banana bumble bee Axl I want to pair for sure. Just to gain some experience in pairing.
your frog eyed geckos ever breed?
nothing special or unique but i'm contemplating an Okeetee cornsake, I think they are just stunning to look at
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Originally Posted By rahfulz⏩
Beautiful JCP bro! She tagged you yet or is she mellow?Had my girl hanging out tonight




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Originally Posted By djansen⏩
What do you currently have ?Nice!
your frog eyed geckos ever breed?
nothing special or unique but i'm contemplating an Okeetee cornsake, I think they are just stunning to look at
your frog eyed geckos ever breed?
nothing special or unique but i'm contemplating an Okeetee cornsake, I think they are just stunning to look at
Pic of my bearded dragon when he was a baby
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Originally Posted By EnriqueBrah⏩
Thanks man! I'm finding that out. I'm testing his preferences this week to see what he likes. Only thing he's shunned is the dark red lettuce.he's adorable
Heads up, they eat a lot! they have a bottomless stomach
Heads up, they eat a lot! they have a bottomless stomach
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Thanks man! Was super cheap stick on at Lowes. I think .89 a piece.I really strongly mirin the tile shade! He looks good too.
Enrique he's a banana bumblebee, I named him Axel. Hes not one of those metallic axl morphs...god don't I wish? Don't we all wish!
Enrique he's a banana bumblebee, I named him Axel. Hes not one of those metallic axl morphs...god don't I wish? Don't we all wish!
Any pics of the spiders?
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beautiful!Had my girl hanging out tonight




Originally Posted By djansen⏩
My daughter originally wanted a snake, but I'd be single if I brought a snake home. LOL. Fiance is still sketchy on the bearded.Nice!
your frog eyed geckos ever breed?
nothing special or unique but i'm contemplating an Okeetee cornsake, I think they are just stunning to look at
your frog eyed geckos ever breed?
nothing special or unique but i'm contemplating an Okeetee cornsake, I think they are just stunning to look at
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so cute!What do you currently have ?
Pic of my bearded dragon when he was a baby
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Originally Posted By EnriqueBrah⏩
Living in FL... If you own a Female Ball, and male. and keep them in the patio or porch. They will naturally breed.Deathstroke, I’m also planning on breeding Ball pythons. Taking it slow though.
literally the easiest thing in the world.
used to breed mine, and a buddy would buy the babies off me.
later found out he was feeding the babies to a cobra (had a venemous license)
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333⏩
i worked at petco for nearly 7 years. Sometimes you just get a bad beardie (srs) dont be discouraged though.fawk guys, he didn't make it
Honestly, part of this may be my fault because when I picked him out I notice 2/3 babies seemed pretty lethargic. It was early morning and their UV bulbs had only been on a little bit so I though maybe they were just tired. I should have trusted my instinct on this one. He never really perked up from Saturday - Monday. Last night around 4pm I got home and put a couple crickets in to see what he did, and he just laid there eyes closed..... The guy who sold him expressed his sincere apologies and was quick to say come back to the shop and he will make it right. Based on my interactions with this guy, and the fact that all his reptiles looked very well cared for and happy I do not believe he is a scammer.....just an unfortunate situation.
He has one more baby from the same litter.....this one did look more perky/fatter/healthier (my daughter picked the one we got, my fault again) He also had an adult dragon. Would it be smarter for me to go with the adult since care/feeding is a little easier and he's already set in a routine. I'm not an expert reptile person by any stretch, so I worry with a juvenile I could mess up somehow in their most important growth years. What do you guys think? I have a bigger habitat available for the adult if I get him, so no worries there.
My main concern is making sure I didn't make a mistake............
Here is a list of my habitat setup for him, to see if I fuked up somewhere:
-10 gallon tank for now (beardy was only about 2.5-3")
-Using a Mega ray UVB/UVA/Heat bulb @ 70W
-branch setup for him to climb for basking.
-water dish big enough for him to soak
-food dish with salad mix
-paper towel substrate
-Internal temp was 100 F ( used one of those stick on dial thermometers, let me know if I should get a different one)
Like I mentioned before, the beardy looked tired from the get go when I got home so it's not like he was chipper the first day, then gradually slowed down which makes me think something was pre-existing.

Honestly, part of this may be my fault because when I picked him out I notice 2/3 babies seemed pretty lethargic. It was early morning and their UV bulbs had only been on a little bit so I though maybe they were just tired. I should have trusted my instinct on this one. He never really perked up from Saturday - Monday. Last night around 4pm I got home and put a couple crickets in to see what he did, and he just laid there eyes closed..... The guy who sold him expressed his sincere apologies and was quick to say come back to the shop and he will make it right. Based on my interactions with this guy, and the fact that all his reptiles looked very well cared for and happy I do not believe he is a scammer.....just an unfortunate situation.
He has one more baby from the same litter.....this one did look more perky/fatter/healthier (my daughter picked the one we got, my fault again) He also had an adult dragon. Would it be smarter for me to go with the adult since care/feeding is a little easier and he's already set in a routine. I'm not an expert reptile person by any stretch, so I worry with a juvenile I could mess up somehow in their most important growth years. What do you guys think? I have a bigger habitat available for the adult if I get him, so no worries there.
My main concern is making sure I didn't make a mistake............
Here is a list of my habitat setup for him, to see if I fuked up somewhere:
-10 gallon tank for now (beardy was only about 2.5-3")
-Using a Mega ray UVB/UVA/Heat bulb @ 70W
-branch setup for him to climb for basking.
-water dish big enough for him to soak
-food dish with salad mix
-paper towel substrate
-Internal temp was 100 F ( used one of those stick on dial thermometers, let me know if I should get a different one)
Like I mentioned before, the beardy looked tired from the get go when I got home so it's not like he was chipper the first day, then gradually slowed down which makes me think something was pre-existing.
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Originally Posted By Dennis71⏩
Unfortunate for sure. The shop owner who I got my 8 month year old assured me as well it's nothing I could have done that would cause that to happen in 3 days. New guy seems pretty happy, but I need to get him in a bigger habitat. I'm weighing the cost of building vs. just getting a use one of craigslist. Some lady is listing a 40 gallon breeder with desert background, two heat lamps, dish, climbing branch with temp gauges for $100. May offer $80 and take it.i worked at petco for nearly 7 years. Sometimes you just get a bad beardie (srs) dont be discouraged though.
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I think I might have jinxed myself because now my leopard won't eat
he was eating last week and just wouldn't last night. I forget how long they are supposed to live but he is just about to turn 14 years old.
I remember way back when I asked you on a suggestion for housing for her. Can't remember what you said. Getting sick of the heavy ass tank she's in right now it's a pain to clean. She's about 5-6ft long if that helps.
he was eating last week and just wouldn't last night. I forget how long they are supposed to live but he is just about to turn 14 years old.Originally Posted By djansen⏩
When I picked her up from a show she was pretty docile but by the time I got her home she was super pissed. She would strike anytime somebody walked by the tank. One day I just let her bite me like ten times in a row and I think she got the message and hasn't bit me since. She would **** every time I would pick her up after that but stopped doing that too eventually. She's agressive in the cage until I give her a light poke with the snake hook then she's ok. I wouldn't go waving my hand in her face but she's pretty relaxed in my hands.Beautiful JCP bro! She tagged you yet or is she mellow?
I remember way back when I asked you on a suggestion for housing for her. Can't remember what you said. Getting sick of the heavy ass tank she's in right now it's a pain to clean. She's about 5-6ft long if that helps.
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333⏩
Find a 40 as low a price as possible for sure. I keep all my single beardeds in 40 breeders. It's a perfect size for 1 bearded.Unfortunate for sure. The shop owner who I got my 8 month year old assured me as well it's nothing I could have done that would cause that to happen in 3 days. New guy seems pretty happy, but I need to get him in a bigger habitat. I'm weighing the cost of building vs. just getting a use one of craigslist. Some lady is listing a 40 gallon breeder with desert background, two heat lamps, dish, climbing branch with temp gauges for $100. May offer $80 and take it.
djansen no man, sadly not. It wasn't meant to be with the frog eyes lol
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This is the SPIDER I was referring to below. Sorry second pic I just held her and took on my webcam too grainy
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