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01-30-2018, 03:26 AM
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It's an impossible thing to measure accurately - what things would have been like without imperialism. But let's put it like this: why don't we look at:
(i) what the African Union (and the Organization of African Unity before it) has achieved, in terms of improving the quality of life for Africans?
(ii) what significant efforts have been undertaken by any African country to counter extremist radicalization?
(iii) what tangible work has been done on the empowerment of women (this isn't an SJW thing, but more women working means less time having babies at home which helps in places without access to clean water)?
(iv) how much each government (and successive ones) spends on real border control? Africa isn't the Schengen zone, and porous borders well...
All of this within the illegal migration context, and the slavery market in Libya (and elsewhere). Anyone care to tell me that colonialism is entirely responsible for this? Keeping in mind there are other places on the planet where colonialism hit pretty hard, and they have made far more progress. What I'm implying here is roughly applicable to the majority of the continent. Even a beach in the Ivory Coast isn't safe - there are weapons everywhere - you can hire the equivalent of assassins for as much as a dinner costs in NY. And all this is 'imperialism?
If the black panther actor really believes this, he should spend less time running his mouth and more time both learning history and understanding why things look the way they do today.
(i) what the African Union (and the Organization of African Unity before it) has achieved, in terms of improving the quality of life for Africans?
(ii) what significant efforts have been undertaken by any African country to counter extremist radicalization?
(iii) what tangible work has been done on the empowerment of women (this isn't an SJW thing, but more women working means less time having babies at home which helps in places without access to clean water)?
(iv) how much each government (and successive ones) spends on real border control? Africa isn't the Schengen zone, and porous borders well...
All of this within the illegal migration context, and the slavery market in Libya (and elsewhere). Anyone care to tell me that colonialism is entirely responsible for this? Keeping in mind there are other places on the planet where colonialism hit pretty hard, and they have made far more progress. What I'm implying here is roughly applicable to the majority of the continent. Even a beach in the Ivory Coast isn't safe - there are weapons everywhere - you can hire the equivalent of assassins for as much as a dinner costs in NY. And all this is 'imperialism?
If the black panther actor really believes this, he should spend less time running his mouth and more time both learning history and understanding why things look the way they do today.
01-30-2018, 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted By drvillain⏩
If anyone can Confirm it’s fake, I think it’s time for. A race baiting neg for OPgood point. This is looking like fake news & bait. That twitter account is mostly spanish and politics, so it isn't like she is press at the event; so it makes no sense for the account to be the only one with the quote
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This is going to catapult Michael B Jordan into top 5 actor convo and is going to blow every other superhero movie out of the water in every statistic.
The misc is going to be fukking furious that a black superhero movie named "Black Panther" is going to be so successful. CANT WAIT
The misc is going to be fukking furious that a black superhero movie named "Black Panther" is going to be so successful. CANT WAIT
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01-30-2018, 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted By strengthgained⏩
World wars. Decades of the most heinous government system created, and i would still rather live in any Eastern European country before any country In Africa.I think Africa is way too complex in history to be explained away in even a full scale research paper as to why they have dragged their feet. It’s not simply “they had all these time they just didn’t feel like it!”
And anyone who even remotely tries to deny that European colonization didn’t completely fracture and send Africa into a spiral of chaos is just ignorant. That’s just how history happened, don’t be pissed off at The truth.
And anyone who even remotely tries to deny that European colonization didn’t completely fracture and send Africa into a spiral of chaos is just ignorant. That’s just how history happened, don’t be pissed off at The truth.
Not a single person would disagree with what I said, so blaming imperialism is laughable as a reason.
01-30-2018, 04:00 AM
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This is such an American view of Africa, too.
The idea that it's homogenous, let alone homogeneous enough to be a single country is absurd.
The best example for what Africa would be like is 19th century Spain. A resource rich, industry poor slave economy, that's assuming of course that the Arabs hadn't simply filled the gap left by whites not engaging in the triangle trade.
The idea that it's homogenous, let alone homogeneous enough to be a single country is absurd.
The best example for what Africa would be like is 19th century Spain. A resource rich, industry poor slave economy, that's assuming of course that the Arabs hadn't simply filled the gap left by whites not engaging in the triangle trade.
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01-30-2018, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted By RookieGER⏩
Germany brahs going into hidinggonna stay off the internet for 3 months once the movie is in theaters because you just know the circlejerk on social media is going to be absolutely insufferable.

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Originally Posted By DoctorKazama⏩
They still are doing that in a lot of parts of Africa.They would still be hunting with sticks, chitting in mud huts, and dying of aids.
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So a guy who gets paid to play dress up thinks he's intelligent and his opinion matters , big deal just ignore the racist comment and enjoy the movie.
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Wonder Woman broke records by being the female super hero.
Black Panther will break those records being the black super heroes.
Just wait until Tranny-X-Men absolutely destroys the box office.
#SuperHeroRelapse
Black Panther will break those records being the black super heroes.
Just wait until Tranny-X-Men absolutely destroys the box office.
#SuperHeroRelapse
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That's right Africa's problem is 'white people'...
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Originally Posted By jimberee⏩
Without the constant materialism BS that we have rammed won our throats today...you could be right.i'd say an african hunter gatherer tribesman lived a better life than a modern day american
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Dang, whitey took away all of the Vibranium. How could they?
Will lmao when the movie bombs in China, and people will start wondering why it didn't generate as much revenue as the other comic bullchit movies.
Will lmao when the movie bombs in China, and people will start wondering why it didn't generate as much revenue as the other comic bullchit movies.
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Originally Posted By DemiBrah⏩
Dumb comment made by the actor but you're wrong. The Africans sold their enemies not their people. It would be like Americans selling Mexicans.It would probably have surpassed the U.S. as one of the largest slave driven economies in the world
But I’m sure this idiot thinks more than maybe 3% of slaves were captured by whites running around with nets and not purchased from their kin
But I’m sure this idiot thinks more than maybe 3% of slaves were captured by whites running around with nets and not purchased from their kin
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Originally Posted By Godyssey⏩
Strong race baitThis is going to catapult Michael B Jordan into top 5 actor convo and is going to blow every other superhero movie out of the water in every statistic.
The misc is going to be fukking furious that a black superhero movie named "Black Panther" is going to be so successful. CANT WAIT
The misc is going to be fukking furious that a black superhero movie named "Black Panther" is going to be so successful. CANT WAIT
And one cares that it’s a “black” super hero since there has been others before.
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Originally Posted By Thunder999⏩
Nah...Without the constant materialism BS that we have rammed won our throats today...you could be right.
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Lets be honest the British empire kicked a lot of ass. I dont think we need to bring skin color into it. Everywhere the British went things were vastly better.
I believe if the Spaniards hadnt colonized South America and instead it was mostly British Control they would be 100x better. The reason is simple. The British used a heavy hand in everything. Uprising? Not paying taxes? Breaking the law? We will send thousands of musket carrying men to kill you and reassert control. If you look at just raw numbers the USA is only independent because of luck and heart. We hold no ill will against the UK we see them as a relative.
I believe if the Spaniards hadnt colonized South America and instead it was mostly British Control they would be 100x better. The reason is simple. The British used a heavy hand in everything. Uprising? Not paying taxes? Breaking the law? We will send thousands of musket carrying men to kill you and reassert control. If you look at just raw numbers the USA is only independent because of luck and heart. We hold no ill will against the UK we see them as a relative.
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Originally Posted By LexBrah⏩
Where the money go? Ask Mugabbe. His sons routinely use rolex watches out of the freezer as ice for there don perignon (Serious.) Africa doesn't need money. It needs education. Ban the missionaries too.It raises a genuinely good point though and I wonder what the actual reason behind it is.
If you think about how much money 1st/2nd world countries have given to Africa, every year and for so long - how come they still arent technologically advanced? Where is it all going?
I read somewhere online that in 2014, 145 Billion Dollars was given to Africa in aid, so it must be TRILLIONS - hundreds of trillions over the years.
How havent they developed a more sustainable living with food/water and education? I dont really get it.
Surely they could have some kind of water pipes that turn sea water into drinking water and then plumb that into all the villages/countries around the continent? Or why havent they made internet more accessible, so that they can start earning money from 1st/2nd world countries, which would be considerably higher than earning in their local currency - and then importing things?
If you think about it the Romans, Mayans, Vikings, Egyptians were all considerably better off and that was like 2000 years ago.
If you think about how much money 1st/2nd world countries have given to Africa, every year and for so long - how come they still arent technologically advanced? Where is it all going?
I read somewhere online that in 2014, 145 Billion Dollars was given to Africa in aid, so it must be TRILLIONS - hundreds of trillions over the years.
How havent they developed a more sustainable living with food/water and education? I dont really get it.
Surely they could have some kind of water pipes that turn sea water into drinking water and then plumb that into all the villages/countries around the continent? Or why havent they made internet more accessible, so that they can start earning money from 1st/2nd world countries, which would be considerably higher than earning in their local currency - and then importing things?
If you think about it the Romans, Mayans, Vikings, Egyptians were all considerably better off and that was like 2000 years ago.
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Originally Posted By NinjaNoir⏩
This.Where the money go? Ask Mugabbe. His sons routinely use rolex watches out of the freezer as ice for there don perignon (Serious.) Africa doesn't need money. It needs education. Ban the missionaries too.
Africas problem is and always has been the same as South Americas.
Corruption.
It really doesnt matter how much money you pump into an economy if it all goes to one guy and he sits on it. The USA has been number 1 for lifetimes now. Why is that?
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Why are countries in Africa and South America fuked up? They dont follow this simple playbook.
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Ethiopia was never colonised by a European power yet has remained one of the poorest African nations. Saying Africa's problems today are due to colonialism is absurd. The biggest problem Africa has had developmentally has been its geography. When you've got impassable deserts, unnavigable rivers, few natural ports etc you can't possibly expect to rival other countries that have much more favourable conditions. Isolated peoples lag.
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Africa is and was always a victim of migration. The smart people left the country hundret thousand years ago to become europeans. The ones to stay behind just didn't have it.
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Africa is literally THE most tribal continent on the planet. More languages spoken per capita than anywhere else. Nowhere is more fragmented yet as you say it's taken as one homogeneous mass.This is such an American view of Africa, too.
The idea that it's homogenous, let alone homogeneous enough to be a single country is absurd.
The best example for what Africa would be like is 19th century Spain. A resource rich, industry poor slave economy, that's assuming of course that the Arabs hadn't simply filled the gap left by whites not engaging in the triangle trade.
The idea that it's homogenous, let alone homogeneous enough to be a single country is absurd.
The best example for what Africa would be like is 19th century Spain. A resource rich, industry poor slave economy, that's assuming of course that the Arabs hadn't simply filled the gap left by whites not engaging in the triangle trade.
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Japan used to treat south koreans like peasants especially in ww2. And it was also ravaged by war in the 50's with millions dead. It also got aid from USA and other countries. But they actually did something with it
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Ppl still think Africa is just mud huts and sticks? Cant help ignorance I guess.
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There is a country in Africa where the tradition is that every new king must demolish the palace and rebuild a new one. The dutch happened to land there in the 1920s or 30s and took pictures. The palace was literally a big mud hut. So for hundreds or thousands of years that the kingdom has been around, they never went past huts lol.
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Originally Posted By NinjaNoir⏩
Which other race of people lived in sub-saharan africa prior to the whites arriving?Dumb comment made by the actor but you're wrong. The Africans sold their enemies not their people. It would be like Americans selling Mexicans.
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