You can't be fapping while the girl is walking towards your table. They can notice these things.

you may give off 'fuk off' vibes. I know its my natural tendency to give off this look. I have to be conscious of it to stop it.
The other week this cute chick walked by me, looked at me and gave me a big smile. My knee jerk reaction is always to look like people annoy me. I saw the smile on her face quickly drop... Keep kicking myself afterwards, its an ingrained FA reaction.

I have not heard a peep. Its been a month. Quite literally have zero feels.

thats good, north carolina is the way to go.

Aren't you busy anyway with school, work, and applications

North Carolina is pretty much the only way I seem to go. School and I do apparently have a job now. Orientation in Feb.

unless you end up staying with a chick for life, North Carolina is the ultimate end for all of these things. thats just the way it is. Its kind of a hard pill to swallow, even for me with all the "move on bruh" advice I give.

One of the reasons I'm mgtow is because even in the scenario where I found a great chick, the ultimate end will be North Carolina and the better the chick is, the more painful that will be.

At least you didn't catch feelings so it was easier to move on. When you were with her, were you happy you were in a relationship or indifferent?That's good you have a job working at the factory. Good luck.

Brahs, I'm starting to lose it.

-Still can't sleep. I have Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday completely off, and on those nights, I usually just stay up until I pass out and then wake up when fukkin ever.

-Can't do math. I was trying to do some high school level algebra in a study group the other day, and just repeatedly messed up simple moving X's around. One of the dudes non-jokingly asked if I was drunk (I don't drink). Had to copy 90% of the work cause I just couldn't hack it, and it wasn't a hard assignment.

-I had a research meeting with a professor. I keep all my research work on my laptop, and I forgot to bring the laptop. So I got a bunch of **** about "preparing more efficiently for meeting times".

-I had a lab class last afternoon, and went all the way there without my pre-lab homework. Had to bike ~30 mins back and forth again to get it, missed a good chunk of lab, had to finish it up on my own time later. I would have never even thought of it if a dude didn't try to bum answers off me - thanks, answer-bumming brah.

-And just tonight, I was working next to some guy I didn't know in a lab. We got talking, and when it was time to go, I pulled dat dere Carnegie strategy. "What's your name?" "Justin." "Well, it's good to meet you, Justin."

30 seconds later, I totally fukkin blank, turn around, and say "wait, did you say your name was Blake?"

Dude gives me a bertstare. "Justin..."


Now all that **** isn't individually a big deal, but everything I've mentioned has literally happened in the last 4 days, so it's starting to become a real problem.

I honestly don't know what's causing this. I've been trying to eat less, but my actual diet of foods I eat hasn't changed. Stress levels are the lowest they've been in 4 years. Obviously I'm not sleeping well, but I'll sleep for 10-12 hours in one of those all-nighter crash sessions so I don't think I'm deprived. Don't feel sick. It's just this constant head fog that won't go away.

Ranger brah, I know you're a fan of getting bloodwork done. I got thinking today, is this something that might be found thru blood work?

Have you ever tried positive affirmations? It sounds like you're having issues with blowing things out of proportion. To my surprise using the affirmations from that affirmations thread has actually changed my reactions to situations that used to stress me out. Bad sh-t happens all the time, but you need to work on how you react to it. I was running late today and as I was on the highway my oil indicator came on so I had to pull over for a few mins. Normally I'd stress out and start slapping the sht out out of my steering wheel but I just texted my supervisor, changed my oil and continued on. All of the things you posted happen to people on a regular basis, no reason to get your panties in a bunch over everyday mistakes, not trying to be harsh I honestly don't know how else to put it.


@otaku congrats on the job brah, I know it's not ideal but slow money is better than no money

Blood work should be something EVERYONE does at least once a year, preferably every 6 months. It's the only way to get trending results of what's going on with your body. The earlier you start, the more you know 5-10 years from now on how your health is doing including your hormone levels which can vary from all sorts of things (plastics, sleep, diet, exercise, disease, injuries, inflammation, etc)

It's also a good way to see if your cortisol levels are fcked up from something. If your sleep is not actually restful, your cortisol levels could be sky high.

In this case though, I think I agree with Iamdetermined. I think you're compounding what normal everyday stresses are and then making it worse by stressing about it. Take your thing where you forgot your lab work and had to bike back and forth to get it and then finish up on your own time. Normal thing to happen (forget something) but you probably max stressed it and then it made the whole situation worse. I notice I tend to do this as well. My mother raised me to a be a coward. Luckily my father did the opposite but I still sometimes have that "Fuuuuuuuck" attitude towards stresses in life and it only makes the situation worse. Through all my military, medical, government and private sector training I've gotten to the point where I can ignore when **** is going bad and I see that is ALWAYS helps the situation. Medicine is the perfect example. The second you start to stress something that's going bad, it gets worse and then worse again and then worse again. You have to stay on top of it and just take a deep breath and relax.^^^^^
Excellent post (srs)

You lose before you even begin with a mindset like that.You ain't sleeping, that will make you off. I feel foggy when I don't sleep well either. Tonight, 420 and just KO bruh

that isnt a mindset, thats the truth

If what you have been doing to date has not worked, change until there is success. It helps to go into things positively as your thoughts can eventually become your actions. All women are turned off by a negative man. Even if you are negative, don't show her this or speak in that manner. You have control over this.

Maybe, but I think you overestimate the amount of control...

You can't simply will positivity out of thin air, ESPECIALLY in the face of having received plenty of knock backs. In fact, the more knock backs you receive, the less likely you are to be positive about future efforts in that area.

it depends why you havent been having success. its not always something you can control. we are what we are at the end of the day, it just depends if youre satisfied with the women you can get

You need to be a stronger person and keep your head up. You don't think I had knock backs being a former fat fuk, chitty gf's, etc? Huuuuuh. I did something about it though, got good results and still am looking to improve myself in any way I can even with a good gf by my side. Self improvement should never stop boyo. The only thing you MAY not have as much control over is your social skills/personality, but they also can be drastically improved with a little reading and focus/willingness to improve. You want to lose weight? Cal deficit. You want to put on muscle? Read the stickies and do what it takes. How bad do you want it is the real question?If you ain't satisfied, then you keep looking and don't settle for less than you deserve. I really hope you ain't just talking about looks here as there is much more to a woman than her looks.

Have you tried 420? If so take Friday and relax. Don't worry about school, work, etc. Hang in there and take your time!

there's more to a woman than her looks but at an absolute minimum she needs to be attractive. that alone is hard to find. it's not always realistic

I got white girl wasted last night and have legit spotty memories. Apparently I went on a red pill tangent last night about dealing with flakes, understanding hypergamy, 80/20 rule, and and etc. Deleted it, but it was seen by like 30 people I know. Granted none of the girls on my snapchat list are interested, but they definitely probably arent now. Whew boy.


Thanks @IamDetermined. Apparently I'm supposed to get my old job back as well so that was good news.


Also the ex hit me up after 30 days. Sent a meme. I responded in a civil manner, and told her I was going to bed. Women 100% do not like men the way men like women. Its so wild how they just instantly drop any feelings. They are the kings of no contact for sure.

lmao good job bruh, rite of passage
why even respond? why is her number not blocked?

And yes, women and men have different kinds of love, because our reproductive/mating incentives are different. The kind of love you want is not what they give.

Nah mayne


And I dont block anyone. I feel its passive aggressive as hell. If I come across people that have wronged me I keep it cordial and refuse to allow the disrespect to happen again. I have no intentions of pursuing her ever again.

Ummm people you block dont know that you block them. its the same as going No Contact. and there's nothing wrong with doing it when its the right thing to do.

obviosusly in person you dont have to go out your way to ignore them, but once you're done with them block the texts

I'm able to no contact people without blocking them or etc. I have will power my guy.

I'm convinced all they care about is what you provide them and sex srs

so then whats the point? If you arent going to respond anyway, you may as well block them. They might assume you did anyway

In a shocking turn of events I received a text last night from a former creative-writing class mate, asking me how i'd been and what I was up to n' all that jazz.

She's cute and friendly, but I'm dubious as to whether she has any romantic interest in me... regardless, I think i'm gonna ask her if she'd like to take up dancing classes and be my dance partner.

On iphone it will not say delivered beneath message if the other person blocked you.
Assume interest, make her laugh and look to schedule coffee or drinks. More often than not they want something. Her willing to meet you will shed light on things. Do you have any romantic history with her?

None.

My guess is that she wants friendship, which i'm totally fine with cos she's quite pleasant and lord knows I could do with some friends, and I figure a female friend could provide a good segway into dance classes.

But yea i'll arrange or coffee or something first to see what's up.

Ain't no such thing as friends between male and female boyo. Through text, see how the humor goes and if she is receptive, I would opt for the drinks. Make sure its in public though. She'll have her guard up more if you suggest your house. As long as you are using it mainly for banter, text is a good way to plant the seed as you have time to think and execute good game. Also delay texts to start getting into her head.

If she agrees to meet, ask her where SHE is taking you. Something like "great, so where are you taking me??". Anything but a yes I will take you out (from her) should be followed up with you accusing her of being cheap lol. Then just keep the banter going; you are traditional and this is the way it should be, how you will beat her up if she doesn't, meet you at the monkey bars, etc. Be silly, none of this boring "what have you been up to" BS.

This may also help to gauge her intentions. Given you are flirting, if she doesn't have romantic interest, she may say something like "we are just meeting as friends right". In which case you are okay with either based on your reply to me. If she only wants friends then without acting desperate, see if she has any single friends (when you meet). Let me know if I can be of further assistance.

yes there is. turn off the misc and go outside, you'll find men and women that are friends