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Originally Posted By CatabolicBrah⏩
That's all you have? I've been toying with you this entire time in any case because you're yet another bitter FA on a message board talking about glow and how men who don't make the cut apparently don't suffer whereas it is women suffering in the long run. Just lol yourself there partner.lol
Originally Posted By davik⏩
You and he are experts, at your age, about what female nature is? You both completely ignore the shifting dynamic of society - are you both from Nigeria or something? A woman's success in life is defined through whether or not she has had kids? Yeesh.his point is that female nature to actualise, needs children which is done through marriage. so they wont do it fine, but theyll be miserable after 30. then you get single motherhood which isnt ideal either, another problem
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I deleted Bumble the other day because the women I was pulling from there, while hot, weren't mentally/emotionally stable. I'm gonna focus on myself for a while and if someone comes along, great, if not, DGAF.
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02-03-2018, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted By Aristotelian⏩
let me guess you think everything is social? whats your age? yes biologically, which is very important.That's all you have? I've been toying with you this entire time in any case because you're yet another bitter FA on a message board talking about glow and how men who don't make the cut apparently don't suffer whereas it is women suffering in the long run. Just lol yourself there partner.
You and he are experts, at your age, about what female nature is? You both completely ignore the shifting dynamic of society - are you both from Nigeria or something? A woman's success in life is defined through whether or not she has had kids? Yeesh.
You and he are experts, at your age, about what female nature is? You both completely ignore the shifting dynamic of society - are you both from Nigeria or something? A woman's success in life is defined through whether or not she has had kids? Yeesh.
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Originally Posted By Aristotelian⏩
No chit.If you honestly think that very attractive women suffer in the long run for 'slooting around' when they are young, you are misguided, as is most of the Misc. Even 50 year old + women who have taken care of themselves are hit on constantly, whether or not they are married, so again - please understand - any woman, even disgusting fatbody women, have men chasing them. There are thirsty men in every nook and cranny of this world. So if women are 'suffering in the long run' because they don't get married or have kids, guess what - they aren't marrying a corresponding man either, which means the men suffertoo, except the hbbs that don't get married will constantly have beta men chasing them for the rest of their lives.
Again, female suffering not once.
Again, female suffering not once.
But very attractive women are the the equivalent of rich/powerful men... neither are gonna struggle at any point in their lives unless something catastrophic happens (e.g. bloke loses all his money, woman gets her face deformed in a car crash).
But I think there's an argument to be made that the average woman suffers more now than in times past. Jordan Peterson frequently bangs on about women being less happy nowadays than they were in the 1950s, despite them having less rights back then.
02-03-2018, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted By davik⏩
Read the thread.let me guess you think everything is social? whats your age? yes biologically, which is very important.
Originally Posted By Aristotelian⏩
In order to support your perspective on life, you're saying women suffer in the long run because they don't get married and have children. Guess what? The birth rate in a countrydecreasesas GDP per capitaincreases, which means that markers for success in life are certainly not 'getting married and having children'. You're young, I get it, but you may want to start wondering what your pension is going to look like - your parents might not leave you the inheritance you're banking on in the future.Times are changing, and you're not getting my point:
1. Couples don't really want to have kids any more - the higher you go up in gdp per capita the lower it gets. Compare Monaco's GDP per capita (around USD 170k) to its birth rate: around 6.7 children per 1000.
2. The highest birth rates are in the poorest countries on the planet (e.g., Niger).
The point is that value systems no longer function around 'starting a family' or 'getting married', and this trend continues to become more and more prevalent. Andthisis why 'average men' are checking out - because plenty of women don't care to get married any more - they have jobs now and don't 'need' a partner. So marrying someone out of 'want' requires a lot more now than it ever did before.
If you honestly think that very attractive women suffer in the long run for 'slooting around' when they are young, you are misguided, as is most of the Misc. Even 50 year old + women who have taken care of themselves are hit on constantly, whether or not they are married, so again - please understand - any woman, even disgusting fatbody women, have men chasing them. There are thirsty men in every nook and cranny of this world. So if women are 'suffering in the long run' because they don't get married or have kids, guess what - they aren't marrying a corresponding man either, which means the men suffertoo, except the hbbs that don't get married will constantly have beta men chasing them for the rest of their lives.
Again, female suffering not once.
1. Couples don't really want to have kids any more - the higher you go up in gdp per capita the lower it gets. Compare Monaco's GDP per capita (around USD 170k) to its birth rate: around 6.7 children per 1000.
2. The highest birth rates are in the poorest countries on the planet (e.g., Niger).
The point is that value systems no longer function around 'starting a family' or 'getting married', and this trend continues to become more and more prevalent. Andthisis why 'average men' are checking out - because plenty of women don't care to get married any more - they have jobs now and don't 'need' a partner. So marrying someone out of 'want' requires a lot more now than it ever did before.
If you honestly think that very attractive women suffer in the long run for 'slooting around' when they are young, you are misguided, as is most of the Misc. Even 50 year old + women who have taken care of themselves are hit on constantly, whether or not they are married, so again - please understand - any woman, even disgusting fatbody women, have men chasing them. There are thirsty men in every nook and cranny of this world. So if women are 'suffering in the long run' because they don't get married or have kids, guess what - they aren't marrying a corresponding man either, which means the men suffertoo, except the hbbs that don't get married will constantly have beta men chasing them for the rest of their lives.
Again, female suffering not once.
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Originally Posted By Aristotelian⏩
no youre missing a huge factor which is birth control. without birth control none of this **** wouldve happened, regardless of gdp per capita. its been rising for decades dont forget. so your entire argument is wrong. idk what youre trying to say about my pension, but ive got super in aus which sets it up decently.Read the thread.
In order to support your perspective on life, you're saying women suffer in the long run because they don't get married and have children. Guess what? The birth rate in a countrydecreasesas GDP per capitaincreases, which means that markers for success in life are certainly not 'getting married and having children'. You're young, I get it, but you may want to start wondering what your pension is going to look like - your parents might not leave you the inheritance you're banking on in the future.
In order to support your perspective on life, you're saying women suffer in the long run because they don't get married and have children. Guess what? The birth rate in a countrydecreasesas GDP per capitaincreases, which means that markers for success in life are certainly not 'getting married and having children'. You're young, I get it, but you may want to start wondering what your pension is going to look like - your parents might not leave you the inheritance you're banking on in the future.
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Originally Posted By Aristotelian⏩
ur reply seems to suggest ur too emotional which is making u type personal attacks at someone who's just presentingThat's all you have? I've been toying with you this entire time in any case because you're yet another bitter FA on a message board talking about glow and how men who don't make the cut apparently don't suffer whereas it is women suffering in the long run. Just lol yourself there partner.
his own opinions with zero personal attacks.
u dont deserve to be conversed with.
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I'm gonna be honest with you, I think a lot of us are checking out of the dating game (men and women). Let's be honest women are just as frustrated they can't bang 50 guys and can't find anyone who wants to treat them with respect afterward.
Think about it. More and more guys are getting laid plowing girl after girl and at the same time are realizing a lot of (most) girls aren't worth dating but just good for smashing. As a result men are more frustrated there's a lack of options. At the same time they become more selective, at least for dating and considering a serious relationship, which hurts women because it's now harder for them to find a guy who wants to be serious leaving them frustrated.
So everyone is frustrated. All because women wanted to be like men and rack up a high partner count even though it's unnatural for them to want to do so and f*cked the whole balance of things.
Think about it. More and more guys are getting laid plowing girl after girl and at the same time are realizing a lot of (most) girls aren't worth dating but just good for smashing. As a result men are more frustrated there's a lack of options. At the same time they become more selective, at least for dating and considering a serious relationship, which hurts women because it's now harder for them to find a guy who wants to be serious leaving them frustrated.
So everyone is frustrated. All because women wanted to be like men and rack up a high partner count even though it's unnatural for them to want to do so and f*cked the whole balance of things.
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Originally Posted By alltrapbrah⏩
That argument has nothing to do with men choosing not to date women, and having sex with VR dolls and pursuing an FA mentality. These trolls that I'm responding to are arguing that although some men will back out of the dating scene, jack off in tissues while staring at IG 'fitness models' etc, are somehow not suffering in the long run compared to their female counterpart, who always has attention on a platter. It is hilarious to see anyone argue that the male in this case could be considered as faring better than the female in the long run.But I think there's an argument to be made that the average woman suffers more now than in times past. Jordan Peterson frequently bangs on about women being less happy nowadays than they were in the 1950s, despite them having less rights back then.
More seriously on what you say - I'd say it has to do with 'awareness', but the long and short of it is: women earn more than their male counterparts until they get married to them. In marriage, a woman's happiness rating plummets, which is why women initiate the vast majority of marriages in the western world. So there's something to be said about marriage itself that is not good for either men or women - and unhappy wife in a marriage is not ideal for the husband's happiness either. But science is still out on this one. Check this out from Rosenfeld (Stanford):https://web.stanford.edu/~mrosenfe/R...of_breakup.pdf
But again, to hammer this point home: if lonely/desperate 'average' males withdraw from the dating pool, you're not going to find any women caring. They get more than enough attention as it is, which is already interesting from a numbers perspective. It just goes to show how thirsty the average male is.
Originally Posted By CatabolicBrah⏩
To quote your own post: 'lol'. Hope you enjoy it.ur reply seems to suggest ur too emotional which is making u type personal attacks at someone who's just presenting
his own opinions with zero personal attacks.
u dont deserve to be conversed with.
his own opinions with zero personal attacks.
u dont deserve to be conversed with.
Originally Posted By davik⏩
None of what 'chit'? You'll need to be more specific and clear in your writing if you want to get to the bottom of it. I think you mean that birth rates have been decreasing for some time, and sometimes irrespective of GDP per capita, but that doesn't mean that 'my entire argument is wrong'. You cannot seem to understand my argument, and you're treating this thread as some kind of spamming exercise.no youre missing a huge factor which is birth control. without birth control none of this **** wouldve happened, regardless of gdp per capita. its been rising for decades dont forget. so your entire argument is wrong. idk what youre trying to say about my pension, but ive got super in aus which sets it up decently.
02-03-2018, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted By Aristotelian⏩
Women have men chasing them to f*ck them, but not to date them. Who cares if there's betas who will date them. They aren't attracted to those guys. This is like saying if you stay in shape as a male late in your 50s you'll have gay men hitting on you too, but you're not attracted to gay men so how much value does it really hold for you?Times are changing, and you're not getting my point:
1. Couples don't really want to have kids any more - the higher you go up in gdp per capita the lower it gets. Compare Monaco's GDP per capita (around USD 170k) to its birth rate: around 6.7 children per 1000.
2. The highest birth rates are in the poorest countries on the planet (e.g., Niger).
The point is that value systems no longer function around 'starting a family' or 'getting married', and this trend continues to become more and more prevalent. Andthisis why 'average men' are checking out - because plenty of women don't care to get married any more - they have jobs now and don't 'need' a partner. So marrying someone out of 'want' requires a lot more now than it ever did before.
If you honestly think that very attractive women suffer in the long run for 'slooting around' when they are young, you are misguided, as is most of the Misc. Even 50 year old + women who have taken care of themselves are hit on constantly, whether or not they are married, so again - please understand - any woman, even disgusting fatbody women, have men chasing them. There are thirsty men in every nook and cranny of this world. So if women are 'suffering in the long run' because they don't get married or have kids, guess what - they aren't marrying a corresponding man either, which means the men suffertoo, except the hbbs that don't get married will constantly have beta men chasing them for the rest of their lives.
Again, female suffering not once.
1. Couples don't really want to have kids any more - the higher you go up in gdp per capita the lower it gets. Compare Monaco's GDP per capita (around USD 170k) to its birth rate: around 6.7 children per 1000.
2. The highest birth rates are in the poorest countries on the planet (e.g., Niger).
The point is that value systems no longer function around 'starting a family' or 'getting married', and this trend continues to become more and more prevalent. Andthisis why 'average men' are checking out - because plenty of women don't care to get married any more - they have jobs now and don't 'need' a partner. So marrying someone out of 'want' requires a lot more now than it ever did before.
If you honestly think that very attractive women suffer in the long run for 'slooting around' when they are young, you are misguided, as is most of the Misc. Even 50 year old + women who have taken care of themselves are hit on constantly, whether or not they are married, so again - please understand - any woman, even disgusting fatbody women, have men chasing them. There are thirsty men in every nook and cranny of this world. So if women are 'suffering in the long run' because they don't get married or have kids, guess what - they aren't marrying a corresponding man either, which means the men suffertoo, except the hbbs that don't get married will constantly have beta men chasing them for the rest of their lives.
Again, female suffering not once.
This is cope if you don't think women are more miserable today than they have been in the past. There's actually a lot of studies that suggest women's overall happiness has been in a steady decline over the last few decades.
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Originally Posted By Aristotelian⏩
The birth rate in a country decreases as GDP per capita increases, NO it doesnt. it was all due to the pill. gdp per capita has been rising since the stone age.None of what 'chit'? You'll need to be more specific and clear in your writing if you want to get to the bottom of it. I think you mean that birth rates have been decreasing for some time, and sometimes irrespective of GDP per capita, but that doesn't mean that 'my entire argument is wrong'. You cannot seem to understand my argument, and you're treating this thread as some kind of spamming exercise.
which means that markers for success in life are certainly not 'getting married and having children'.
marker for success being arbitrarily judged by gdp per capita - regardless i just told you the real cause of declining birth rates. by your logic no one was successful in the past, due to poorer gdp per capita.
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
I'd be surprised if even 1% of attractive women are frustrated. Every 6/10 female gets what she wants. Most 5/10 are content because they can pick and choose until they find someone with higher value who will treat them right. It really doesn't matter if they are less happy these days, because everyone is. They still live every day of their life with the opportunity to get what they want, and men throwing themselves at them. Could you even imagine what it would be like for the average man to live a week like this, and not have to put in any effort? It would be too easy.I'm gonna be honest with you, I think a lot of us are checking out of the dating game (men and women). Let's be honest women are just as frustrated they can't bang 50 guys and can't find anyone who wants to treat them with respect afterward.
Think about it. More and more guys are getting laid plowing girl after girl and at the same time are realizing a lot of (most) girls aren't worth dating but just good for smashing. As a result men are more frustrated there's a lack of options. At the same time they become more selective, at least for dating and considering a serious relationship, which hurts women because it's now harder for them to find a guy who wants to be serious leaving them frustrated.
So everyone is frustrated. All because women wanted to be like men and rack up a high partner count even though it's unnatural for them to want to do so and f*cked the whole balance of things.
Think about it. More and more guys are getting laid plowing girl after girl and at the same time are realizing a lot of (most) girls aren't worth dating but just good for smashing. As a result men are more frustrated there's a lack of options. At the same time they become more selective, at least for dating and considering a serious relationship, which hurts women because it's now harder for them to find a guy who wants to be serious leaving them frustrated.
So everyone is frustrated. All because women wanted to be like men and rack up a high partner count even though it's unnatural for them to want to do so and f*cked the whole balance of things.
The same cannot be said for men. Even a lot of attractive men these days. Because unless you are top 20% you almost have to date down. It's incredible man.
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Some women deserve every ounce of your respect. Some women deserve no respect at all because they don't even respect themselves.
Why do you think she uploads soft porn selfies? Deep down she knows she is worthless with nothing of value to offer a man so she creates a deceitful fake internet persona making her appear more valuable than she really is. A false sense of celebrity as a solution to her worthless life.
It's almost as if society built slut shaming for a reason. Sluts should be shamed.
If a woman isn't selective of what type of man she lets cum inside of her and gives it up for any tatted up scrub pothead that gives her some attention what does that say about her? And if you fuk her what does that say about you?
Sex is not a sport. As much as they push the narrative, it is impossible for a woman to separate sex and love into different categories in her mind. And after every man that fuks her and then leaves, he leaves with a part of her. Eventually after going through enough men, she no longer has any love left to give. She is broken permanently. A broken girl unable to trust or love.
How can she have any love left for you if she's already had the same feelings and experiences with 20+ men before you? Sex and creating a human life is the most intimate and sacred experience two people can have. Sex is not a sport and promiscuity is not "experience"
It's 2018. Love is dead. Love died tinder screenshopping for mates like looking into the windows of shops for a new dress. How can she have any love left for you when she's already experienced the same things with 20+ men before you ? The family is dead. Western society is dead. This whole place is now a cesspool of degenerate tatted up whores with personality disorders lusting after tatted up douchebrahs, fat bearded clonebrahs, or scrub potheads, It's 2018, if you're a straight white male hoping for a traditional life the tour is over. I've reached the point where fuking whores is meaningless and leaves me feeling dirty, used, and empty. I could get more pleasure from a few pints of beer. I'm sick of the cycle of meeting girls, filtering out the psychos, spending time getting to know them, starting to get feelings, for it to end with them wanting another cock and having to start the cycle all over again. It's exhausting and I can't take it anymore. Idk what I'm going to do now the whole point of me going to welding school was to make good money to give my family a good life. But now what's the point of killing myself welding, I'm going to be shaking with Parkinson's and won't remember scheit by the time I'm 50, what's the point if I can't find a woman to have a family with ? We're all fuked, I'm checking out from this game I'm done with it all.
Why do you think she uploads soft porn selfies? Deep down she knows she is worthless with nothing of value to offer a man so she creates a deceitful fake internet persona making her appear more valuable than she really is. A false sense of celebrity as a solution to her worthless life.
It's almost as if society built slut shaming for a reason. Sluts should be shamed.
If a woman isn't selective of what type of man she lets cum inside of her and gives it up for any tatted up scrub pothead that gives her some attention what does that say about her? And if you fuk her what does that say about you?
Sex is not a sport. As much as they push the narrative, it is impossible for a woman to separate sex and love into different categories in her mind. And after every man that fuks her and then leaves, he leaves with a part of her. Eventually after going through enough men, she no longer has any love left to give. She is broken permanently. A broken girl unable to trust or love.
How can she have any love left for you if she's already had the same feelings and experiences with 20+ men before you? Sex and creating a human life is the most intimate and sacred experience two people can have. Sex is not a sport and promiscuity is not "experience"
It's 2018. Love is dead. Love died tinder screenshopping for mates like looking into the windows of shops for a new dress. How can she have any love left for you when she's already experienced the same things with 20+ men before you ? The family is dead. Western society is dead. This whole place is now a cesspool of degenerate tatted up whores with personality disorders lusting after tatted up douchebrahs, fat bearded clonebrahs, or scrub potheads, It's 2018, if you're a straight white male hoping for a traditional life the tour is over. I've reached the point where fuking whores is meaningless and leaves me feeling dirty, used, and empty. I could get more pleasure from a few pints of beer. I'm sick of the cycle of meeting girls, filtering out the psychos, spending time getting to know them, starting to get feelings, for it to end with them wanting another cock and having to start the cycle all over again. It's exhausting and I can't take it anymore. Idk what I'm going to do now the whole point of me going to welding school was to make good money to give my family a good life. But now what's the point of killing myself welding, I'm going to be shaking with Parkinson's and won't remember scheit by the time I'm 50, what's the point if I can't find a woman to have a family with ? We're all fuked, I'm checking out from this game I'm done with it all.
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
Have you read the thread title?Women have men chasing them to f*ck them, but not to date them. Who cares if there's betas who will date them. They aren't attracted to those guys. This is like saying if you stay in shape as a male late in your 50s you'll have gay men hitting on you too, but you're not attracted to gay men so how much value does it really hold for you?
This is cope if you don't think women are more miserable today than they have been in the past. There's actually a lot of studies that suggest women's overall happiness has been in a steady decline over the last few decades.
This is cope if you don't think women are more miserable today than they have been in the past. There's actually a lot of studies that suggest women's overall happiness has been in a steady decline over the last few decades.
Have you read the thread?
I am aware of the literature on the decreasing happiness that women report over time, but what does that have to do with average men checking out of the dating scene? Yes, women always receive attention from men - it is not just to fukk, it is to date etc. But the FAs don't have anything except their sex toys. And they are the ones arguing that a guy who buys a sex doll, checks out of the dating scene, is apparently doing and faring well. That's coping of the highest order. Hope it's clearer now.
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
This is copeI'd be surprised if even 1% of attractive women are frustrated. Every 6/10 female gets what she wants. Most 5/10 are content because they can pick and choose until they find someone with higher value.
The same cannot be said for men. Even a lot of attractive men these days. Because unless you are top 20% you almost have to date down. It's incredible man.
The same cannot be said for men. Even a lot of attractive men these days. Because unless you are top 20% you almost have to date down. It's incredible man.
The issue some of you are having is putting yourself in a female perspective. Women do not want the same things as men. So start there. You think "man, wouldn't it be great if I had an endless supply of girls that wanted to f*ck like women have with guys". So you assume women aren't unhappy and they have what they want.
That's wrong. Most women deep down want to be settled with someone. Yes they want to have lots of options to pull from and make that decision, but ultimately they want someone they can be serious with and connect emotionally. The primary relationship goal for women is emotional. For men it's physical.
The reason women are just as unhappy is there's no longer any emotional connection or it's a lot harder to find. The value of sex has diminished substantially in creating that emotional connection. It's done so often it's no longer a big deal to any side.
LOL at women have everything they want. Women might have everything YOU want, but they aren't even close to having what they want. That's the difference you're struggling with. Remove what you want and think about what it is they actually want. If you're a beta FA you'll have no clue what I'm talking about because you probably don't even interact with females enough to get what I'm telling you in this post
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The internet exaggerates everything, the average guy just as the average gal is doing fine, all this mgtw and feminism bs is just extremism, people cant really 'check out' of the dating scene for real since we are driven from the biological need to reproduce, maybe soon tho, with bots and stuff
Although in the long run, given how young social media technology is and yet how impactful it has been on our lives, I can see it changing the shape of how humans will interact in the future, for example is a fact that is damaging real life social skills in the younger generations
Although in the long run, given how young social media technology is and yet how impactful it has been on our lives, I can see it changing the shape of how humans will interact in the future, for example is a fact that is damaging real life social skills in the younger generations
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Originally Posted By Aristotelian⏩
Both are checking out is what it has to do with the thread. It's not just men not getting what they want from dating.Have you read the thread title?
Have you read the thread?
I am aware of the literature on the decreasing happiness that women report over time, but what does that have to do with average men checking out of the dating scene? Yes, women always receive attention from men - it is not just to fukk, it is to date etc. But the FAs don't have anything except their sex toys. And they are the ones arguing that a guy who buys a sex doll, checks out of the dating scene, is apparently doing and faring well. That's coping of the highest order. Hope it's clearer now.
Have you read the thread?
I am aware of the literature on the decreasing happiness that women report over time, but what does that have to do with average men checking out of the dating scene? Yes, women always receive attention from men - it is not just to fukk, it is to date etc. But the FAs don't have anything except their sex toys. And they are the ones arguing that a guy who buys a sex doll, checks out of the dating scene, is apparently doing and faring well. That's coping of the highest order. Hope it's clearer now.
This sentence from you right here shows how disconnected you are from reality with the opposite sex:
"If you honestly think that very attractive women suffer in the long run for 'slooting around' when they are young, you are misguided, as is most of the Misc."
"One day I won't be able to lift any more. Not I won't want to lift. I mean physically unable. That day could be decades from now or it could be tomorrow. All I know is that's the day I'll wish I could lift more than ever. The day I'd give anything for one more workout, one more set, or one more cardio session. So go hard and enjoy every workout, every set, every rep. Because one day you will wake up and you will never get it back."
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02-03-2018, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
How is the average woman 'checking out' from dating? On the Misc all there seems to be are plenty of FAs in sex doll threads talking about how they can't wait to buy one and that women will "suffer in the long run". Yeah, that's cope - pumping away in a rubber doll is the epitome of masculinity right? LOL.Both are checking out is what it has to do with the thread. It's not just men not getting what they want from dating.
This sentence from you right here shows how disconnected you are from reality with the opposite sex:
"If you honestly think that very attractive women suffer in the long run for 'slooting around' when they are young, you are misguided, as is most of the Misc."
This sentence from you right here shows how disconnected you are from reality with the opposite sex:
"If you honestly think that very attractive women suffer in the long run for 'slooting around' when they are young, you are misguided, as is most of the Misc."
02-03-2018, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
Everybody wants to have an emotional connection....at least when they get a little older. Women are not struggling anywhere near as much as men to find either emotional or sexual needs. At the end of the day they get to pick and choose, and don't have to do anything but exist. Real struggle right there. If a 6/10 woman can't find a genuine dude in her league by age 30 there is something seriously wrong.This is cope
The issue some of you are having is putting yourself in a female perspective. Women do not want the same things as men. So start there. You think "man, wouldn't it be great if I had an endless supply of girls that wanted to f*ck like women have with guys". So you assume women aren't unhappy and they have what they want.
That's wrong. Most women deep down want to be settled with someone. Yes they want to have lots of options to pull from and make that decision, but ultimately they want someone they can be serious with and connect emotionally. The primary relationship goal for women is emotional. For men it's physical.
The reason women are just as unhappy is there's no longer any emotional connection or it's a lot harder to find. The value of sex has diminished substantially in creating that emotional connection. It's done so often it's no longer a big deal to any side.
LOL at women have everything they want. Women might have everything YOU want, but they aren't even close to having what they want. That's the difference you're struggling with. Remove what you want and think about what it is they actually want. If you're a beta FA you'll have no clue what I'm talking about because you probably don't even interact with females enough to get what I'm telling you in this post
The issue some of you are having is putting yourself in a female perspective. Women do not want the same things as men. So start there. You think "man, wouldn't it be great if I had an endless supply of girls that wanted to f*ck like women have with guys". So you assume women aren't unhappy and they have what they want.
That's wrong. Most women deep down want to be settled with someone. Yes they want to have lots of options to pull from and make that decision, but ultimately they want someone they can be serious with and connect emotionally. The primary relationship goal for women is emotional. For men it's physical.
The reason women are just as unhappy is there's no longer any emotional connection or it's a lot harder to find. The value of sex has diminished substantially in creating that emotional connection. It's done so often it's no longer a big deal to any side.
LOL at women have everything they want. Women might have everything YOU want, but they aren't even close to having what they want. That's the difference you're struggling with. Remove what you want and think about what it is they actually want. If you're a beta FA you'll have no clue what I'm talking about because you probably don't even interact with females enough to get what I'm telling you in this post
I will not deny that ugly girls often do struggle though. They are most likely not happy. But above average woman (even if 5.5 or 6/10) come on.....
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Originally Posted By Aristotelian⏩
looks like i win aristotle. you got your birdies to delete that last thread and you havnt responded to me hereHow is the average woman 'checking out' from dating? On the Misc all there seems to be are plenty of FAs in sex doll threads talking about how they can't wait to buy one and that women will "suffer in the long run". Yeah, that's cope - pumping away in a rubber doll is the epitome of masculinity right? LOL.
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Originally Posted By davik⏩
Want to bet? If I asked a mod to delete that thread I'll take a permaban, if I didn't you'll take a permaban. Deal?looks like i win aristotle. you got your birdies to delete that last thread and you havnt responded to me here
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Originally Posted By Aristotelian⏩
it was a joke and i dont know why that thread would get banned. looks like i threaten your worldview quite a bit since youre bringing up something so... totalWant to bet? If I asked a mod to delete that thread I'll take a permaban, if I didn't you'll take a permaban. Deal?
tell me your age for the fourth time. pm me if you dont want to say here
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I always lol when people talk about the so-called "average" man. The bottom of the barrel are "checking out" because they were never really in the game in the first place. It's only cope to call that average because then they feel better about themselves. Most of the actual average guys I know are either married or in long term relationships and not jerking off every weekend with tears in their eyes. The above average guys (and by that I only mean above average, not "Chads") I know are either still playing the field or have side chicks.
Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
There's almost no such thing as "dating down." I see that you have "autism crew" in your sig. Whether you really have autism or you're just another awkward potato like 99% of the people who call themselves autists, that greatly lowers your value in terms of attractiveness.The same cannot be said for men. Even a lot of attractive men these days. Because unless you are top 20% you almost have to date down. It's incredible man.
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Originally Posted By Caeculus⏩
This was depressing to read. Sending good vibes your way. You seem to have your priorities straight.Some women deserve every ounce of your respect. Some women deserve no respect at all because they don't even respect themselves.
Why do you think she uploads soft porn selfies? Deep down she knows she is worthless with nothing of value to offer a man so she creates a deceitful fake internet persona making her appear more valuable than she really is. A false sense of celebrity as a solution to her worthless life.
It's almost as if society built slut shaming for a reason. Sluts should be shamed.
If a woman isn't selective of what type of man she lets cum inside of her and gives it up for any tatted up scrub pothead that gives her some attention what does that say about her? And if you fuk her what does that say about you?
Sex is not a sport. As much as they push the narrative, it is impossible for a woman to separate sex and love into different categories in her mind. And after every man that fuks her and then leaves, he leaves with a part of her. Eventually after going through enough men, she no longer has any love left to give. She is broken permanently. A broken girl unable to trust or love.
How can she have any love left for you if she's already had the same feelings and experiences with 20+ men before you? Sex and creating a human life is the most intimate and sacred experience two people can have. Sex is not a sport and promiscuity is not "experience"
It's 2018. Love is dead. Love died tinder screenshopping for mates like looking into the windows of shops for a new dress. How can she have any love left for you when she's already experienced the same things with 20+ men before you ? The family is dead. Western society is dead. This whole place is now a cesspool of degenerate tatted up whores with personality disorders lusting after tatted up douchebrahs, fat bearded clonebrahs, or scrub potheads, It's 2018, if you're a straight white male hoping for a traditional life the tour is over. I've reached the point where fuking whores is meaningless and leaves me feeling dirty, used, and empty. I could get more pleasure from a few pints of beer. I'm sick of the cycle of meeting girls, filtering out the psychos, spending time getting to know them, starting to get feelings, for it to end with them wanting another cock and having to start the cycle all over again. It's exhausting and I can't take it anymore. Idk what I'm going to do now the whole point of me going to welding school was to make good money to give my family a good life. But now what's the point of killing myself welding, I'm going to be shaking with Parkinson's and won't remember scheit by the time I'm 50, what's the point if I can't find a woman to have a family with ? We're all fuked, I'm checking out from this game I'm done with it all.
Why do you think she uploads soft porn selfies? Deep down she knows she is worthless with nothing of value to offer a man so she creates a deceitful fake internet persona making her appear more valuable than she really is. A false sense of celebrity as a solution to her worthless life.
It's almost as if society built slut shaming for a reason. Sluts should be shamed.
If a woman isn't selective of what type of man she lets cum inside of her and gives it up for any tatted up scrub pothead that gives her some attention what does that say about her? And if you fuk her what does that say about you?
Sex is not a sport. As much as they push the narrative, it is impossible for a woman to separate sex and love into different categories in her mind. And after every man that fuks her and then leaves, he leaves with a part of her. Eventually after going through enough men, she no longer has any love left to give. She is broken permanently. A broken girl unable to trust or love.
How can she have any love left for you if she's already had the same feelings and experiences with 20+ men before you? Sex and creating a human life is the most intimate and sacred experience two people can have. Sex is not a sport and promiscuity is not "experience"
It's 2018. Love is dead. Love died tinder screenshopping for mates like looking into the windows of shops for a new dress. How can she have any love left for you when she's already experienced the same things with 20+ men before you ? The family is dead. Western society is dead. This whole place is now a cesspool of degenerate tatted up whores with personality disorders lusting after tatted up douchebrahs, fat bearded clonebrahs, or scrub potheads, It's 2018, if you're a straight white male hoping for a traditional life the tour is over. I've reached the point where fuking whores is meaningless and leaves me feeling dirty, used, and empty. I could get more pleasure from a few pints of beer. I'm sick of the cycle of meeting girls, filtering out the psychos, spending time getting to know them, starting to get feelings, for it to end with them wanting another cock and having to start the cycle all over again. It's exhausting and I can't take it anymore. Idk what I'm going to do now the whole point of me going to welding school was to make good money to give my family a good life. But now what's the point of killing myself welding, I'm going to be shaking with Parkinson's and won't remember scheit by the time I'm 50, what's the point if I can't find a woman to have a family with ? We're all fuked, I'm checking out from this game I'm done with it all.
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Originally Posted By Aristotelian⏩
bringing up perma ban? lol r u 5? or just plain triggered lmao u take this chit too seriouslyWant to bet? If I asked a mod to delete that thread I'll take a permaban, if I didn't you'll take a permaban. Deal?
learn to relax holy chit
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Originally Posted By Aristotelian⏩
Strong everything; will read the PDF in full.That argument has nothing to do with men choosing not to date women, and having sex with VR dolls and pursuing an FA mentality. These trolls that I'm responding to are arguing that although some men will back out of the dating scene, jack off in tissues while staring at IG 'fitness models' etc, are somehow not suffering in the long run compared to their female counterpart, who always has attention on a platter. It is hilarious to see anyone argue that the male in this case could be considered as faring better than the female in the long run.
More seriously on what you say - I'd say it has to do with 'awareness', but the long and short of it is: women earn more than their male counterparts until they get married to them. In marriage, a woman's happiness rating plummets, which is why women initiate the vast majority of marriages in the western world. So there's something to be said about marriage itself that is not good for either men or women - and unhappy wife in a marriage is not ideal for the husband's happiness either. But science is still out on this one. Check this out from Rosenfeld (Stanford):https://web.stanford.edu/~mrosenfe/R...of_breakup.pdf
But again, to hammer this point home: if lonely/desperate 'average' males withdraw from the dating pool, you're not going to find any women caring. They get more than enough attention as it is, which is already interesting from a numbers perspective. It just goes to show how thirsty the average male is.
More seriously on what you say - I'd say it has to do with 'awareness', but the long and short of it is: women earn more than their male counterparts until they get married to them. In marriage, a woman's happiness rating plummets, which is why women initiate the vast majority of marriages in the western world. So there's something to be said about marriage itself that is not good for either men or women - and unhappy wife in a marriage is not ideal for the husband's happiness either. But science is still out on this one. Check this out from Rosenfeld (Stanford):https://web.stanford.edu/~mrosenfe/R...of_breakup.pdf
But again, to hammer this point home: if lonely/desperate 'average' males withdraw from the dating pool, you're not going to find any women caring. They get more than enough attention as it is, which is already interesting from a numbers perspective. It just goes to show how thirsty the average male is.
I can't argue with your closing point. It's clear that women don't care and I can't think of any reason why that would change in the future, because as you've said: they'vealwaysgot options.
I think a shortage of men would make them take notice, but I can't see that happening anytime soon.
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
Much sense this post makesThis is cope
The issue some of you are having is putting yourself in a female perspective. Women do not want the same things as men. So start there. You think "man, wouldn't it be great if I had an endless supply of girls that wanted to f*ck like women have with guys". So you assume women aren't unhappy and they have what they want.
That's wrong. Most women deep down want to be settled with someone. Yes they want to have lots of options to pull from and make that decision, but ultimately they want someone they can be serious with and connect emotionally. The primary relationship goal for women is emotional. For men it's physical.
The reason women are just as unhappy is there's no longer any emotional connection or it's a lot harder to find. The value of sex has diminished substantially in creating that emotional connection. It's done so often it's no longer a big deal to any side.
LOL at women have everything they want. Women might have everything YOU want, but they aren't even close to having what they want. That's the difference you're struggling with. Remove what you want and think about what it is they actually want. If you're a beta FA you'll have no clue what I'm talking about because you probably don't even interact with females enough to get what I'm telling you in this post
The issue some of you are having is putting yourself in a female perspective. Women do not want the same things as men. So start there. You think "man, wouldn't it be great if I had an endless supply of girls that wanted to f*ck like women have with guys". So you assume women aren't unhappy and they have what they want.
That's wrong. Most women deep down want to be settled with someone. Yes they want to have lots of options to pull from and make that decision, but ultimately they want someone they can be serious with and connect emotionally. The primary relationship goal for women is emotional. For men it's physical.
The reason women are just as unhappy is there's no longer any emotional connection or it's a lot harder to find. The value of sex has diminished substantially in creating that emotional connection. It's done so often it's no longer a big deal to any side.
LOL at women have everything they want. Women might have everything YOU want, but they aren't even close to having what they want. That's the difference you're struggling with. Remove what you want and think about what it is they actually want. If you're a beta FA you'll have no clue what I'm talking about because you probably don't even interact with females enough to get what I'm telling you in this post
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