This is all true. She deserved a ring. I can see that now.

Oh yeah. Real casual. They are getting married. HELLO?? You're damn right she stabbed your heart, but that's only because you left it exposed like a cuck. You can't ever show any weakness around girls ever period. They are not evolutionary hard wired to find that attractive. Most of them suck at thinking for themselves, and are entirely vulnerable to suggestion. If you portray yourself as strong, many of them are dumb enough to evaluate you that way, and similarly, if you appear to be a beta cuck by acting insecure, she will immediately dry up and stop taking you seriously. Everyone knows this.

No, this thread isn't about you *******.

FU

I WANTED TO REDEEM MYSELF IN THE END

Do you not believe in second chances?

She started to emotionally detach herself in the fourth year. She became distant and started to talk herself out of the relationship. I didn't know what was happening at the time. I thought she was upset about more trivial stuff.
At any rate, she went abroad, met the guy in September. But she cried when we officially parted in late September and she was still in heartbreak over me. They didn't start dating until about 4 months later, I don't know exactly when, but it was around late December/early January. And then she played it super slow, was still not over me, was very reserved, sending me sweet messages, but eventually made the leap sometime last year. Overall, I'd say it took her about 2 years to get over me.

Feel bad for you but holy fukn lmao at letting her go date someone else. Jesus fukn allah m8. Should of stand your ground and if she refused and still wanted to go ahead like you said with it then you know it's over.

You're delusional bro. You're trying to rationalize the sloot mind. You will wake up eventually. You need to throw away the blue pill, and open your mind to the truth. It's all in ya head. She was over there living the "Eat Pray Sloot" lifestyle abroad. She didn't love you. She became distant because she wanted to fuk other people. That's why she gave you the ultimatum. Her heart was never broken. She stopped giving a chit a long time ago, and was just trying to find a way to replace you. Just LOL if you don't think she had a few ONS over there as well. You are pretending she is this good virgin catholic girl. You are legitimately too close to the situation to see the truth. "Her mom encouraged her to date." Lie. "It's not serious." Lie. "I still care about you." Lie. One day you will learn to assume that 90% of what comes out of a sloot's mouths is lies. The other 10% is Chad's semen.

It definitely existed in the first few years bro. Honestly, at that point she didn't know what she needed. Her mother was feeding her this stuff. She just felt broken and didn't know how to fix things. I think she was trying to convince herself to move on from me, since our life goals were different, but she couldn't stop loving me until she met somebody else.

Bro. She stopped loving you, and that's WHY she sought other people elsewhere. You really don't get it do you?

I didn't read through all the pages, but read your first post. It sounds like you made the right decision. You weren't ready for marriage and kids, but she was. You were just on to different time lines. Based on her behavior though, it sounds like you dodge a bullet.

Good for you. How long have you been married? Do you have kids? Life is good?

You're right about all the beta stuff man. I broke down and betrayed myself. I never thought I would do the chit that I ended up doing. I was weak and pathetic, a disgrace. But it only happened after she left me. There was probably less than a 1% chance she was coming back at that point. Maybe my beta chit turned it into 0%, but it was already over. Trust me, I was an alpha for the first 3 years and she loved it, I just couldn't maintain it because I started breaking her heart daily by refusing to marry her. I thought I was too alpha for marriage at the time.

You're almost there, but you failed right where I bolded it. No. Bro. NO. Do NOT second guess your decision, and do not blame yourself for the flawed logic of sloots. She went where her vagina told her. Don't worry about it. Don't even try to understand why she did what she did, and don't blame yourself. Sloot gonna sloot. Never speak to her again. And if she comes running back to you after a year, do not take her back.

Yes, you are probably right, but... she still loved me even after all that garbage. I definitely had a generous learning curve.

How about 101st chances? Do you believe in those?

I will tell you this, she truly loved me once and she made that clear. She told me multiple times that Ruscuck was not true love. Now I think her biological clock is ticking, so she's making an economical and practical decision, and she doesn't want to second-guess it or open herself up for more heartbreak. But if we could work out all our problems... wouldn't it be worth it in the end? All our dreams could come true.

If I said that to her now, I think she would tell me that her dreams have changed.... but I also think she's fooling herself. She wanted nothing more than to marry me. I want nothing more than to redeem myself. But should I get that chance?

According to her, hell no.

What the hell? Dude. She chose to marry this fool. She left you. Wake up. She lied to you. She has no true love. Neither of you are actually her true love. She IS just settling for economical and practical decisions. The closest thing to her true love is probably some Chad that fked the everliving chit out of her some night while you were away or something. You have no idea. No it would not be worth it because she's already established herself as a total whore. Why do you even give a chit about her anymore? After what she did, you should srsly hate her. You're letting your brain cuck you. It's overriding your judgment.

Lol. Thanks bro. I mean, she was gonna be 4,000 miles away for a year... it's hard to control a girl in that situation, plus we had a lot of problems, so I was open to trying to fix them. She wanted a pause, not a breakup, where we would get some space from each other. But you're right, I should've put my damn foot down. I should've fought for what I thought was right. I dun goofed

Lol. I might not, bro. But all the way up until last August and September, she was sending me happy anniversary messages, telling me she always thinks of me, she misses me, etc. If she didn't love me then, then she has a funny way of not loving a sumbitch. But she starting getting distant in November again, so that's when I think the wheels started falling off.

Lol. I will give you some credit bro, you are very persistent and passionate. But seriously, you got a lot of angst built up about women. Not all women are total whores. Who hurt you?

She thought of you, and also thought of Russian cuck. Eventually, she chose him. She was stringing you along as a backup in case things didn't work out because she wasn't sure. You need to go completely NC on this whore immediately, and start recovering. Take a day. Sleep on it. Rest. Lift. Forget this bitch, and move on boyo. You are better than this, and you deserve better than this. Don't dwell on the "what ifs". She chose to fuk some other guy bro. That's on her. Keep reminding yourself this chit is just chemical reactions in your brain. Over time, you will get over it. It's just like a drug.I know not all women are whores, but society has made it much easier for women to be whores. I'd argue that most are whores now. This isn't about me. This is about you getting past your chit. You know I'm right. She made her decision bro. Don't blame yourself. You have to move on.

Damn. You speak like you already know her. You are right. I have no doubt that everybody in her support circle has recommended she cut ties with me. Her family, her friends, her close advisers. Hell, her mother disapproved of me the entire time. Nobody is on my side, except me. I am sure she is following their advice. Perhaps even more than her own heart.

But maybe she'll wake up some day and realize she still wants to be with me. I guess that's the only hope I have left.

My own closure won't come for a very long time.

He didn't kill chit. Bro. This is literally sloot logic. A sloot is never responsible for anything she does, and yet, if she does anything, it was the "right" decision. Bullchit. The sloot who you thought loved you went and phucked another dude. Srsly.

assuming this isnt a troll post, ill give some prospective

she was the love of your life as you say? well apparently you werent the love of her life in return or she would have waited for you and not instamarried a guy with alot more chit going on. so thats a dodged bullet. she's impulsive and if you married her now , who's to say in a year from now she wouldnt be cheating or anything?

further more she sounds unstable. the other guy has two small kids and a divorce and she's leaving you for that situation suddenly? it's not like she knew him for years. this is sudden. she didnt think this through which will come back on her with all the challenges she'll have later on.

she might have hurt you now, but really, you are the one that got away. just dont answer her calls or fb 'hey you' messages a year from now ok? she'll come back around and try to work it out. they always come back

judging from your posts ITT; you aren't even on your side. Get a gripoh god. & this is the weak man that she decided to block off of every platform. Not the ******* you were before. cringe

A lot of what you say is good, bro. I appreciate it. I need to move on and forget this chick. But it's a little more than chemical reactions, bro. She just would've been a great life partner. We had something really special. And we would've had a lot of great times together, an endless amount of quality companionship, laughs, and memories. That is, if she stayed herself and didn't change.

Of course, if she turned into the heartless bish that she is today, even with all my love and affection, I probably would've ended up miserable. So maybe it is for the best, after all.

The thing is, and this is why I was hesitant to get married - you never know if you are dating the real person, or somebody "on an audition" to get married that will get far too comfortable once you actually tie the knot.

There's no such thing as the love of your life, in the end she could have easily been in love with someone else. If you were to have died she would have found another guy and lived happily ever after.

Good luck with everything tho, you'll get over it.

It's really not. Clearly, it was less special than whatever the phuck she has with Russian brah because he's the one who's gonna bang her and marry her. You can rest assured, she was always this heartless bitch, and as soon as the honeymoon ended, the truth would come right out. You are right that you never knew the REAL her. THIS is the real her. This kunt who sloots around and replaces people like they are employees. That's what she really is. A lot of women are like this. They think they "love", but it is a really fake, superficial kind of love. They hop from Chad to Chad. You will see that time will heal this wound, just like it has in the past. Chalk it up to another swing and a miss, dust yourself off, and when you are ready, try again (NOT with her) boyo.

I don't know what to tell you OP. I kind of know where you are coming from and the sad part is there is no clear answer I or anyone else can give you.

Life is complicated. Situations can be complicated. Life and situations change. People make mistakes, they learn, they grow up. We all do. When you met, you were younger, were together for a while, but I'm sure moving overseas changed her, and her situation changed, she lost hope in you ever settling down with her, so she latched onto someone else. Life isn't the fairy tale some try to paint it out to be. Whether or not she is settling or she really knows you are her true love is what's deep inside her and that is what you need to figure out. You have to think about the future, not the past, if you want a good future. It's a lot to think about.

I'm in a situation,, I was with this girl for 5.5 years, and she left me for some guy who knew how to play the alpha chad role to a T, but it turned out he was a beta timothy when it came down to it, and even after that, he dumped her. Now she wants me back. The answer is pretty clear there, so no need for a 8pg thread on that issue. Although I truly loved her, so it's not easy, but I know the answer.

So, the second half of my situation, my current GF is my exfiance from about 15 years ago. We were younger, and almost got married, and then she decided she didn't want to. She's a different person and so am I, we have grown up a lot, so it's different. Although I'm seeing a very positive future with her, I can't help but remember how she stomped on my heart and dragged it through the mud a long time ago, but I'll never forget that pain, and it lingers in the back of my mind.

I mean bro, she waited for about 4 1/2 years but I never pulled the trigger... isn't that on me? That's a pretty long period of time. She was still hung up on me once she started talking this dude, but somehow she managed to push me out by the end.

And it's not exactly sudden, they've been dating for over a year now, and they're not engaged yet (as far as I know). But when I asked on the phone if she thought they would get married, she said yes. And then when I asked if she thought they were soulmates, she hesitated slightly, then said yes. I was stunned.

I still agree with you that it's a mistake, though. This guy seemed like such a bad choice, I was never worried about him (although I will admit he is 6'6", good looking, and makes decent money) and she told me several times that there was nothing to worry about. Now, in the past few months, she's decided to go through with it? I think she needed him to replace me, so it's partly a practical decision.

I don't know man. I've gone back and forth about what I would say if she messages me back. It might be a year from now, it might be two years from now. I guess we'll see. Would depend on the context.

you mean she strung you along. lol I'm done with this thread. Nothing anyone says will change anything. You just need time to get over it all and realize how big of a ******* you are.

Lol, I'm trying. I'm still in beta mode manI know, bro, I KNOW. I never thought I would say this chit man. I have betrayed myself and everything I used to be.