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post 1542960711 02-05-2018, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted By MNGA1⏩
I dont think so, this bubble economy built on a foundation of ever increasing leverage and debt through ZIRP and QE out the wazoo, is in the first stages of imploding. The stock market is taking a beating globally, eventually the wealth effect will work in reverse and start infecting the real economy like consumer spending.

Trump was a moron for tying his presidency to the stock market rally and taking credit for the gigantic bubble. It's coming back to bite him now and the republicans and Trump will get the blame when the real economy starts to crater.
Come on bro, trump would get the blame regardless if he took credit for the sharp upward trend.
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Originally Posted By AlwaysFocus⏩
Come on bro, trump would get the blame regardless if he took credit for the sharp upward trend.
True, but had he not been openly bragging about it every chance he got and instead continued calling it a bubble like he did on the campaign trail or atleast not mentioned it much, it would be alot harder to pin it on him.
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Originally Posted By MNGA1⏩
I dont think so, this bubble economy built on a foundation of ever increasing leverage and debt through ZIRP and QE out the wazoo, is in the first stages of imploding. The stock market is taking a beating globally, eventually the wealth effect will work in reverse and start infecting the real economy like consumer spending.

Trump was a moron for tying his presidency to the stock market rally and taking credit for the gigantic bubble. It's coming back to bite him now and the republicans and Trump will get the blame when the real economy starts to crater.
Trump's smart. He knew it was eventually going to happen. We all knew it would happen. Regardless of the market moving, large investments are coming back to the US, wages are increasing, more tax dollars are going back to consumers, etc.

Trump made the market a talking point so that when it recovers from an inevitable crash (which will probably be very quickly under his presidency), he can tout it as another victory and mention how he recovered the economy faster than Obama. The left who are running to blame him for these market dips will have to give him credit when the market recovers and stabilizes, but they won't
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Originally Posted By MNGA1⏩
I dont think so, this bubble economy built on a foundation of ever increasing leverage and debt through ZIRP and QE out the wazoo, is in the first stages of imploding. The stock market is taking a beating globally, eventually the wealth effect will work in reverse and start infecting the real economy like consumer spending.

Trump was a moron for tying his presidency to the stock market rally and taking credit for the gigantic bubble. It's coming back to bite him now and the republicans and Trump will get the blame when the real economy starts to crater.
You think you know more about the economy than the Billionaire Boys Club that is Trump's cabinet? Trump wouldn't be tying himself by bragging about the market if he had an inkling that it was going to dive.
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Stock markets been floating on cheap money and share buybacks for years now. Tax cuts have been and gone, interest rates are on the rise, bye bye.
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Originally Posted By ack33⏩
Trump's smart. He knew it was eventually going to happen. We all knew it would happen. Regardless of the market moving, large investments are coming back to the US, wages are increasing, more tax dollars are going back to consumers, etc.

Trump made the market a talking point so that when it recovers from an inevitable crash (which will probably be very quickly under his presidency), he can tout it as another victory and mention how he recovered the economy faster than Obama. The left who are running to blame him for these market dips will have to give him credit when the market recovers and stabilizes, but they won't
K goodluck with that theory when people are losing thousands and thousands of dollars.
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i knew i should have emptyd last week o well just hold until it fixes again
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FTSE 100 is already down another 150 points (1.5%) in the opening hours
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Apparently 81% of the market is owned by 10% of the people. So these traumatic moves are really not impacting the majority of the country all that much.

Oh, and DOW futures have come back some. The market's looking to start lower but not at event levels. Now I wouldn't be surprised to see the market up by the end of the day. Beware the dead cat bounce though.
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post 1542969451 02-06-2018, 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Apparently 81% of the market is owned by 10% of the people. So these traumatic moves are really not impacting the majority of the country all that much.
Jesus you are so stupid.

It effects every 401k and pension fund. Do you know how many people that is? Doesn't matter if they have 200K or 200 million in their fund, it's a lot of money to them.
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Originally Posted By Weightaholic⏩
Stock markets been floating on cheap money and share buybacks for years now. Tax cuts have been and gone, interest rates are on the rise, bye bye.
Yup. And with central bankers now slowly and quietly trying to unload all those trillions of bonds they bought during QE, watch yields rise and prices fall. Watch for more gyrations in stocks.
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Originally Posted By WestAfrica⏩
K goodluck with that theory when people are losing thousands and thousands of dollars.
If you aren’t planning on retiring in 5 years and/or aren’t a day trader then you should probably relax and ride it out. If it gets to the point where businesses are going under or banks don’t want to loan money then it’ll really start affecting more than just the first two types of people I mentioned. I guess Trump could’ve waited until it popped to pass the tax cuts to help businesses and people to make it look like he’s solving the problem, but it’s probably better to already have these measures in place to be proactive. Now businesses and people may be better prepared to absorb some of the correction as it happens. I expected this to be a big year for American business and still do, but it looks like some of that will be offset by the fact that we have to absorb this correction. Still, this is probably the best year to do it, and if it’s handled correctly we should get through alright and come out the other side looking pretty good relatively speaking. Still a lot of potential outcomes though so we’ll just have to see how it goes.
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Originally Posted By ack33⏩
Trump's smart. He knew it was eventually going to happen. We all knew it would happen. Regardless of the market moving, large investments are coming back to the US, wages are increasing, more tax dollars are going back to consumers, etc.

Trump made the market a talking point so that when it recovers from an inevitable crash (which will probably be very quickly under his presidency), he can tout it as another victory and mention how he recovered the economy faster than Obama. The left who are running to blame him for these market dips will have to give him credit when the market recovers and stabilizes, but they won't
This too^.

What do you know, stocks don't always go straight up? The last 10 years of bull run is a bit of an anomaly, and has only happened once before in history (I believe). Just a little realty to remind people there is a risk premium associated with equity returns. Expect more volatility as we enter a different phase of slowly rising rates and expansion under Trump.
post 1542970511 02-06-2018, 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Apparently 81% of the market is owned by 10% of the people. So these traumatic moves are really not impacting the majority of the country all that much.
I hope you're being facetious, or deceptive, and aren't actually retarded. Using only the market cap of the NYSE, a family of 4 in the non-10% lost $2500 in one day.*

*maybe I did the math wrong, but first sentence stands.
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post 1542970911 02-06-2018, 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted By pUniCepts⏩
I hope you're being facetious, or deceptive, and aren't actually retarded.
All of the above, plus just being a kunt re-wording negative clickbait articles because muh 1%

http://amp.timeinc.net/time/money/50...ercent-richest

Saw this on my twitter feed a few times this morning. Clearly where he got it.
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Looks like another day of craziness is upon us. With the lack of leadership from the white house, the markets and retail investors will have to calm themselves down.

There was yelling and screaming on the floor of the NYSE yesterday. The panic is starting to set in.
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Originally Posted By ceizer1985⏩
There was yelling and screaming on the floor of the NYSE yesterday. .
literally everyday on the floor
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Apparently 81% of the market is owned by 10% of the people. So these traumatic moves are really not impacting the majority of the country all that much.

Oh, and DOW futures have come back some. The market's looking to start lower but not at event levels. Now I wouldn't be surprised to see the market up by the end of the day. Beware the dead cat bounce though.
Sounds just like crypto markets.

You have your average plebs trying to make a dollar, then the big boys cuck them at ATH's.
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Originally Posted By pUniCepts⏩
I hope you're being facetious, or deceptive, and aren't actually retarded. Using only the market cap of the NYSE, a family of 4 in the non-10% lost $2500 in one day.*

*maybe I did the math wrong, but first sentence stands.
29% of Americans 55+ don't have a 401k OR a pension. The average 401k balance for the age group 40 - 49 is $91k. THE AVERAGE. That means many many people have far less. So while your math above works on average, the reality again is that most regular people have very little exposure to the market. These wild market swings really don't impact the vast majority of American all that much.
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Originally Posted By ceizer1985⏩
Looks like another day of craziness is upon us. With the lack of leadership from the white house, the markets and retail investors will have to calm themselves down.

There was yelling and screaming on the floor of the NYSE yesterday. The panic is starting to set in.
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This is the winning post so far.

Or at least in top 3.
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Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
Lutz

This is the winning post so far.

Or at least in top 3.
Loved how the statement from the WH yesterday was they were focused on long term economic indicators when Trump's been trumpeting the stock market gains since he took office. Kind of like how unemployment was fake and total workforce employment was down bigly, until he took office. Then all of a sudden he relies on the former and says the later is caused by retirees.

The hypocrisy would be stunning were it not just an everyday occurrence with this administration. Sad how the president can lie and lie and lie and his fans just don't GAF.
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And here it all comes down. We told you trumplets this would happen, no one ever listens.
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Originally Posted By WestAfrica⏩
K goodluck with that theory when people are losing thousands and thousands of dollars.
This is just the beginning. Over the next few weeks we are going to see a magnificent show of mental gymnastics as the little trumplets struggle more and more to defend indefensible economics.

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Originally Posted By Spoolme⏩
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Taking the day off

Sitting here with 4 screens. 2 terminal, and 2 mechanical keyboards.

This 1%’s a$$ bout to bank now


Naked puts, leaps, calls, puts, covered calls, long term positions what’ll it be?


For the novice and non market savvy kids read post 30 ITT and stick with that.


For the ones trying to play today understand this is high risk speculating and only should be done with discretionary money.

For those doing so volatility is your friend and big swings is your dream, whichever way.

For days like this I’ll give these tips:

-don’t buy on margin today no matter the temptation
-You are figating against a microsecond trading computers floating between bid and ask, you can’t win that, you aren’t fast enough, so don’t follow their pattern or you have to go against the grain to win.
-Channeling is fine but be prepared to cut your losses
-If you aren’t using discretionary money just stop


For those considering their IRA contributions today- read Post 30, or :shrug: might as well it’s all long anyway.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
29% of Americans 55+ don't have a 401k OR a pension. The average 401k balance for the age group 40 - 49 is $91k. THE AVERAGE. That means many many people have far less. So while your math above works on average, the reality again is that most regular people have very little exposure to the market. These wild market swings really don't impact the vast majority of American all that much.
So those who can't afford to put anything away for retirement didn't lose much? Fantastic! I'm sure they'll keep the economy going with all their imaginary discretionary income, while those who did take a big hit divert their real discretionary income to repairing their retirement and other investments.
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Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
Taking the day off

Sitting here with 4 screens. 2 terminal, and 2 mechanical keyboards.

This 1%’s a$$ bout to bank now


Naked puts, leaps, calls, puts, covered calls, long term positions what’ll it be?


For the novice and non market savvy kids read post 30 ITT and stick with that.


For the ones trying to play today understand this is high risk speculating and only should be done with discretionary money.

For those doing so volatility is your friend and big swings is your dream, whichever way.

For days like this I’ll give these tips:

-don’t buy on margin today no matter the temptation
-You are figating against a microsecond trading computers floating between bid and ask, you can’t win that, you aren’t fast enough, so don’t follow their pattern or you have to go against the grain to win.
-Channeling is fine but be prepared to cut your losses
-If you aren’t using discretionary money just stop


For those considering their IRA contributions today- read Post 30, or :shrug: might as well it’s all long anyway.
Hope you didn't have an XIV...
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Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
Taking the day off

Sitting here with 4 screens. 2 terminal, and 2 mechanical keyboards.

This 1%’s a$$ bout to bank now


Naked puts, leaps, calls, puts, covered calls, long term positions what’ll it be?


For the novice and non market savvy kids read post 30 ITT and stick with that.


For the ones trying to play today understand this is high risk speculating and only should be done with discretionary money.

For those doing so volatility is your friend and big swings is your dream, whichever way.

For days like this I’ll give these tips:

-don’t buy on margin today no matter the temptation
-You are figating against a microsecond trading computers floating between bid and ask, you can’t win that, you aren’t fast enough, so don’t follow their pattern or you have to go against the grain to win.
-Channeling is fine but be prepared to cut your losses
-If you aren’t using discretionary money just stop


For those considering their IRA contributions today- read Post 30, or :shrug: might as well it’s all long anyway.
lol @ you. Just withdrew what's left of my money and exchanged it for rubles.
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Originally Posted By pUniCepts⏩
lol @ you. Just withdrew what's left of my money and exchanged it for rubles.
Good luck. Forex just ain’t my game personally short of a little dabbling.


I don’t blame anyone for pulling out if they’re not comfortable, like I posted early I was out mid late December for the most part.


The bulk of my portfolio is in private business stock, not publicly traded so I’m naturally limited to exposure anyway, and can’t push button buy/sell that.
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