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post 1543006331 02-06-2018, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
Lol that was like 34 years ago, and was only able to be made due to the immense star power of Eddie Murphy at that time.
Read what you just said again.

They made an all-black excellence movie (depicting black wealth, high class, royalty) 34 years ago because the leading role was played by a black actor who was a superstar at the time. This happened 34 years ago.

That is the point. There is nothing "special" about this Black Panther movie coming out in 2018. Instead you are supposed to suspend logic and lose your mind as if they just let blacks into major Hollywood movies yesterday. What? You realize that they offered the role of Neo in The Matrix to Will Smith; had he accepted both Neo and Morpheus would have been black, on top of all the other predominantly black characters in the movie (The Oracle, the two guys on Neo's ship, the Commander in Zion who is on Morpheus' balls, Jada Pinkett Smith's character as the boss of the other ship, etc, etc). Ironically, all of the "villains" in that film would have been stereotypical white guys (Smith, The Agents, the guy who turns in the first movie, The Architect, The Merovingian). The Matrix came out in 1999.
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post 1543007221 02-06-2018, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted By metafour⏩
the Commander in Zion who is on Morpheus' balls,
This doesn't take away from your post, but if I recall, he was polynesian.
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I’ve learned to never take critic reviews to heart, because I’ve seen some movies that were rated very poorly on RT that I loved, and some that were rated very high that were steaming piles of chit.


That being said, I don’t like superhero movies, so I don’t care either way.
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
This doesn't take away from your post, but if I recall, he was polynesian.
I'm talking about Commander Lock, the guy in charge of the whole army or whatever. Not the Mech Guy who gets ripped to shreds.


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A Black superhero? What's next? An Asian Superhero from North Korea?
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Originally Posted By metafour⏩
I'm talking about Commander Lock, the guy in charge of the whole army or whatever. Not the Mech Guy who gets ripped to shreds.


yeah, I know.

actually I googled him. Thats Nathanial Lees. He's samoan.
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
yeah, I know.

actually I googled him. Thats Nathanial Lees. He's samoan.
Its Harry Lennix. He is black.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Lennix

Nathanial Lees is literally the guy I said I WASN'T referring to. He's the Samoan guy in charge of the Mech unit. Completely different character.
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Originally Posted By AmIGoodNuff⏩
Fuk this. Im still waiting on Static Shock.
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Originally Posted By Arkileon⏩
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eylzazKebD8
loved that show, i miss saturday morning cartoons
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
I posted this in a thread about a week or so ago and it got largely ignored;

I think the point he's trying to make is this is probably the first black dominant movie to ever be released that wasnt;

-a charicature stereotype of doing drugs and bangin' hoes "in the hood" (The Friday movies/The House Party movies)
-Not a boring cringy bible thumpy educational movie with a wholesome lesson (The Madea movies)
-Not a documentary movie about Rosa Parks or Malcom X or MLK or slavery for the umpteenth time (Roots/12 years a slave/ etc)
-Nor is it a movie that has black people in it and the whole narrative of the characters existence is due to the fact that they're black (Get Out)

Its just an action adventure movie that "happens" to have a dominant black male cast.
what do you mean it happens to have a black male cast? It's set in africa, or course it has a black cast why would there be anyone else in it?

Wouldn't the logic of your argument dictate that this is "A typical movie with a hip hop soundtrack where black people are violent"?

Wouldn't it take a movie with the premise being "NASA is run by an all male black cast and they forge a mission to an alien planet to help man kind survive an extinction event and peacefully make contact with an alien race that gives them a planet" to really break the mold?

This whole argument is so ridiculous to me
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Originally Posted By menseks⏩
Jacked Michael b Jordan. Kid is on fire.
No pun intended?
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
Lol you seem pretty worked up about this, when did I say this movie was super special? Nice to infer a lot of bullchit from my comment.
his comment doesnt seem to be directed at you, just using it as a spring board for his comment to others in this thread
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I'm still failing to miss what sort of 'social commentary' this movie is supposed to have other than speculation.

T'Challa's father got killed in Civil War. T'Challa has to go back and restore order to his land after the king was killed. People are now discovering how rich and technologically advanced Wakanda is and he has to protect the interest of Wakanda which sometimes comes in conflict with the U.S. i.e. creating a safe haven for Cap, Bucky, Falcon, and Black Widow.

Also we don't know where the last Infinity Stone is and why half of The Avengers are fighting in Wakanda during Infinity War.

Let's just enjoy the movie. STFU.
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Originally Posted By sword_⏩
I'm still failing to miss what sort of 'social commentary' this movie is supposed to have other than speculation.

T'Challa's father got killed in Civil War. T'Challa has to go back and restore order to his land after the king was killed. People are now discovering how rich and technologically advanced Wakanda is and he has to protect the interest of Wakanda which sometimes comes in conflict with the U.S. i.e. creating a safe haven for Cap, Bucky, Falcon, and Black Widow.

Also we don't know where the last Infinity Stone is and why half of The Avengers are fighting in Wakanda during Infinity War.

Let's just enjoy the movie. STFU.
The last Infinity stone is in Wakanda Bro, come on now.
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Originally Posted By DrFeeIGood⏩
The last Infinity stone is in Wakanda Bro, come on now.
I know but I want to see it for myself.

Of course the SOUL Stone is in Wakanda since everyone knows Black people have soul.

I see what you did there Marvel.

In b4 last Infinity Stone is in Ant-Man's bunghole.
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Originally Posted By Jhalf⏩
what do you mean it happens to have a black male cast? It's set in africa, or course it has a black cast why would there be anyone else in it?

Wouldn't the logic of your argument dictate that this is "A typical movie with a hip hop soundtrack where black people are violent"?

Wouldn't it take a movie with the premise being "NASA is run by an all male black cast and they forge a mission to an alien planet to help man kind survive an extinction event and peacefully make contact with an alien race that gives them a planet" to really break the mold?

This whole argument is so ridiculous to me
Ok then, in the list of cliche black movie narratives I named off, where does it fit in my list, and if it doesn't fit in any of them is there a list of black movies that are out that are like Black Panther?
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Originally Posted By UnclRuckus⏩
Just like I expected, reviews are talking about the political statement and cultural impact as opposed to whether or not it's a good movie. Classic case where you shouldn't trust the critics and wait for audience reviews. I think it's gonna be the same thing as with Star Wars TLJ, where SJW:s hyped it to high heavens but normal people thought it was garbage. Hope not though.
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Budget

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Box office$2.068 billion[5]

The Last Jedi

Budget$200 million[4][5]Box office$1.321 billion[6]

Made a profit, but shouldn't it have made more then The Force Awakens?
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Originally Posted By ssg10587⏩
Do people really think that movies are a good representation of black people? That's scary as phuk. I would hope people would base their views of black people by actually spending time with them and making up their mind just like they should do for every other person/ethnicity/race..
It's a start and thats all you can reasonably ask for
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Originally Posted By JaxBrah⏩
how many black people are writing comic books? seriusly, why would you expect white people to write comics based in africa?
I don't know why you guys keep bringing up this point and phrasing it like you're disagreeing with me. I'm saying there's not many movies where its a majority cast who just happen to be black (instead of focusing on blackness as the major theme of the movie), which is why this is important. You guys are explainingwhy there's not many of those movies. But the why isn't anything I'm even trying to argue about. So....
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is the villain for this movie a rich white guy??
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Originally Posted By sword_⏩
In b4 last Infinity Stone is in Ant-Man's bunghole.
Actually that would be really smart (srs).

They could shrink the stone down to a microscopic level, and literally put it anywhere. How in da fck would you find it? Shrink it down then put it in a cave somewhere and only ant man and one other person knows about.
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Originally Posted By KingKringe⏩
is the villain for this movie a rich white guy??
black man. Michael B Jordan. Pretty sure the only white character is a side character and a good guy
Originally Posted By SuperHercules⏩
Superhero movies suck, it doesn't matter what color the hero is
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Originally Posted By KingKringe⏩
is the villain for this movie a rich white guy??
Probably a guy with a confederate flag shirt lol
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Originally Posted By AmIGoodNuff⏩
Fuk this. Im still waiting on Static Shock.
The GOAT Fukking loved that show.
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
Ok then, in the list of cliche black movie narratives I named off, where does it fit in my list, and if it doesn't fit in any of them is there a list of black movies that are out that are like Black Panther?
lol at trying to put all movies with black actors in them into 4 categories.. are you srs?

Get out shouldnt have even been an example of a black movie, it should be an example of a white movie where: white characters are extremely racist towards black people
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Originally Posted By TitusVI⏩
A Black superhero? What's next? An Asian Superhero from North Korea?
How old is everyone here? How can people forget the GOAT 1990's Marvel superhero flick. Blade 1 & 2 is right up there with any comic series.

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