Alot of the FAers here legitmately cannot pick up on social vibes. I think Psycho and Iamdetermined are the only other guys I REALLY feel for.

Day 2 of the new job over. 41 year old single in my class was trying to low key holler at your boy, but I hit her with that.

Well thats part of the problem. What the fuk is stopping you from being more proactive with women? You don't have to wait until someone says something to you. If you are just waiting for random encounters that 99.99% mean nothing, you're a fool.

A 41 year old fat white woman?

And Iamdetermined did say he had a hard time telling if a woman was interested in him or not. Idk about Psycho but I'm assuming it's the same thing.

I'm not reading anything into it or acting like I missed out on my 10/10 future wife. I just shared it here cause this thread is full of everyone else's ****ups with women and I figured I'd volunteer my own.

When the last time a girl even spoke to you was November 2017, any potential opportunity becomes a big deal.

The misc is so retarded and thirsty. You're making it seem like she asked him on a date or something.

This is not a big deal. The chick has shown absolutely no romantic interest whatsoever. OP had no reason to assume anythung more and he did the right thing.

Speaking of retarded..

****, I haven't spoken to a woman outside of work or a professional setting in about 2 years.

****, I haven't spoken to a woman outside of work or a professional setting in about 2 years.

No hate but I gotta say been lurking this thread for months and this is the strangest "MGTOW" thread I've seen on the internet.

I thought MGTOW was about avoiding women and going ur own way but this thread is full of people tryign to approach women lol

I've said this like 10 times and tried to actually turn the thread around..its basically w dating thread but who was mgtow

No hate but I gotta say been lurking this thread for months and this is the strangest "MGTOW" thread I've seen on the internet.

I thought MGTOW was about avoiding women and going ur own way but this thread is full of people tryign to approach women lol

its like lurking a vegan thread were people are talking about the best way to grill steak

No hate but I gotta say been lurking this thread for months and this is the strangest "MGTOW" thread I've seen on the internet.

I thought MGTOW was about avoiding women and going ur own way but this thread is full of people tryign to approach women lol

its like lurking a vegan thread were people are talking about the best way to grill steak

its kinda just formed into the newt FA thread

its just an active thread. Im dating a chick so not even mgtow

I’d say this thread is more like a support group for low status men, where everything and anything can be discussed.

I feel hardcore MGTOW is a crock of chit anyway, so i’m not too fussed that we’ve gone off on a tangent.

MGTOW doesn't mean avoiding women. It doesnt mean you cannot have sex or casually date someone.

You are simply a man that lives his life by his own means and you will not allow the gynocentric culture we line to dictate your life act

Hardcore mgtow isn't a crock of chit, any low status man with common sense would at least try to be mgtow

A 41 year old fat white woman?

And Iamdetermined did say he had a hard time telling if a woman was interested in him or not. Idk about Psycho but I'm assuming it's the same thing.

She was black. The meta has changed.

He is probably having a hard time because they arent really showing interesting. They arent asking him to the library and then he isnt going or anything like that.

Right, fellas... this is gonna be one of my weirder posts (possibly my weirdest), but i'm looking for serious opinions/insight.

A former female colleague of mine, who's since become a friend (as in friend-friend), invited me over to her new place last night for a drink and a chat. It's her first time living alone and in typical female fashion, she's bought a cat and a dog for company.

So I head over there, she lets me in, gives me a tour of the place, and we finally end up in the living-room/kitchen (it's one big room, i.e. open plan) where I see this cat:



I'm immediately taken back by how weird it looks. The cat locks eyes with me and I just feel... disgusted, or angry, or something. I really don't quite know how to characterize the emotion, but it was VERY strong and I've never felt anything like it before when looking at an animal.
I ask my lady friend what crazy ass breed it is, and she tells me it's a Cornish Rex. The little kent then starts meowing, and it hits me how weird the meow is - it has a distinctly pathetic vibe, and the more it meows the more my skin crawls.

So... i'm a bit weirded out, but I figure it's best to ignore the creature, so I fix myself a drink and head on over to the couch. My lady friend joins me, and we start chatting, but in my peripheral vision I can see the cat skulking about the kitchen.

At some point in the convo my lady friend mentions that her cat and dog don't get along, hence why the the huge fukin' Doberman is in a cage in the other room. Several minutes later, I hear a whimper from the dog, so I INSIST the dog be let out so it can come join us.
She lets the dog out, and it darts into the room, sniffs around, before locking eyes on the cat. The cat is clearly wary of the dog so it leaps up above the kitchen cabinets where the dog can't reach. Cat and dog remain highly alert of one another and decide to play a waiting game.

The dog calms down and sits by my lady friend, and at various times the cat decides to try it's luck and comes down from it's hiding place. BUT... my lady friend restrains the dog whenever it becomes alert of the cat. I get really, REALLY annoyed by this, and eventually insist "look... the dog just wants to play with the cat, i'm sure it'll be fine". My lady friend is hesitant but she does what I say, and when the cat next ventures down the dog takes a run at it. I'm watching this, and in my mind I keep imagining the dog biting the cat by it's neck and swinging it around like a rag doll, or bludgeoning it to death with it's paws. I'm not fukin' kidding... I was really hoping the dog would tear the creature apart.
Sadly the cat is too wile and uses various nooks and crannies to keep itself out of reach. At one point it darts underneath the sofa, and I contemplate reaching under, pulling it out by one of it's legs and throwing it to the dog.

Right before I leave to go home, I walk up close to the critter who's now sat atop the kitchen counter, and I say to my lady friend, "jesus, she's just skin and bones, she must weigh nothing...". Curiosity gets the best of me, so I take my right hand, put it under the cats belly and scoop her up into the air one handed, and then sorta move her around like a toy airplane. My lady friend is laughing hysterically, but what she doesn't know is how much i'm holding back the urge to hurl this fukin' creature at the wall as hard as I possibly can. I don't do it obviously, but fuk me, I like... really, really wanted to do it.

I have two questons:

1) Has anyone else felt this way about an animal before? Like... a very visceral and intense disgust/dislike.

2) What does it say about me psychologically? I mean... I was imaging some sick MURDEROUS chit, but I also know that everything I was thinking was truly horrible and wrong.

We might be arguing semantics...

I consider hardcore MGTOW to be giving up on women entirely, and I think that’s a sad outlook.

Giving up on women entirely is sad, but it can be the best of bad options for low status men who are never going to win with women.

It is for me.

Giving up on anything you want in life is sad and it's never the best option

Yes it can be. Should the 50 yr old man give up his dream of the NBA?

We have to be realistic in life and honest with ourselves. And sometimes you have to accept some things are not going to happen.

In terms of women, if you find the chase fun in itself go ahead, but I haven't found years of rejection at all worthwhile. I'm better off accepting the facts

I mentioned this in another thread recently, but one of my pet peeves is when people fail to differentiate a difficult situation from a hopeless situation...

50 year old wanting to play in the NBA = hopeless.

Your 26 year old FA ass trying to get a woman or two = difficult.

And it’s my experience that people are all too eager to assess their situations as hopeless when they’re often not.

Giving up on anything you want in life is sad and it's never the best option....I always post about how I'm giving up on women but you better believe I'll still end up trying to bang that girl who sits next to me in FIN450.You miss 100% of the shots you don't take which is why no matter how pathetic my success rate is, I'll still try.

It depends how you define hopeless. You're basically saying hopeless is only stuff that is 100% impossible but I disagree.

Incredibly unlikely things that you have no control over can also be hopeless.

Being say, a 5'0 ugly midget and trying to have success with women is a hopeless thing. Impossible? No. But it will be hopeless by any reasonable definition of hopeless.

Even the NBA example, yes the 50 yr old is hopeless but so is the average 18 yr old. If you don't have what it takes, it's hopeless.

Like winning the lottery. For some men, their odds of dating success is basically like the lottery. They can keep buying tickets but some will never win because of who they are.

In most species the low status men have little to no access to females. It's a fact of life

“Hopeless” carries extremely negative connotations, and I would say most people generally equate it with “impossible”. Let’s not get too caught up with exact definitions, but rather what people are likely meaning when they use these words.

Therefore, unless a situation is truly 100% impossible, using a word like hopeless isn’t doing you any favours.

I agree but ok, look at a case like me. I'm 26 and I've had no success with women my entire life except one fluke.

Obviously that feels hopeless.