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post 1543843701 02-14-2018, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted By RespectYourself⏩
All good, this is perfectly normal:

https://www.massshootingtracker.org/data

The Onion, right on time yet again:

https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-p...s-r-1823016659
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post 1543843771 02-14-2018, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed⏩
It's still 1 trigger pull = 1 bullet. I know "bump stock" is a scary term for the left now too, but it was always just a novelty for a select few to fool around with for fun. It's not accurate at all and it's not really much faster than a well-practiced shooter without one.

They are now banned in a few places, but it's just a bunch of posturing by the left. From a "slippery slope" argument standpoint, it makes sense that they should be legal. It's an accessory, not a firearm. However, in the real world we're already sliding down that slippery slope so not too many people care too much. They're not practical for anything other than being at the range and getting a feel for what it might be like to hip fire a fully automatic weapon. That's about all they're good for. If the Las Vegas POS didn't have a large crowd to shoot at, the bump stock would have been pointless. Once people scattered, it was pointless anyway.

http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/09/...egas-shooting/
Bullchit I have a close personal friend that was at that concert for a surprise 30th birthday getaway with his fiance. He said the gunfire was so rapid everyone on the ground thought there was at least 3 or 4 shooters. Bumpstocks turned those semi autos into fully auto machine guns.
Sig line can't be a novel
post 1543843941 02-14-2018, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Let's face it, religion has been the excuse given to justify a whole hell of a lot of violence, death, torture, you name it
post 1543843971 02-14-2018, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted By RespectYourself⏩
All good, this is perfectly normal:

https://www.massshootingtracker.org/data

The Onion, right on time yet again:

https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-p...s-r-1823016659
The onion article annoys me.

There is no evidence that access to guns magically turns good healthy people into mass shooters.

The problem is we have too many pieces of s*it in this country and it's those people we need to stop
post 1543844111 02-14-2018, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted By RamRod2334⏩
Bullchit I have a close personal friend that was at that concert for a surprise 30th birthday getaway with his fiance. He said the gunfire was so rapid everyone on the ground thought there was at least 3 or 4 shooters. Bumpstocks turned those semi autos into fully auto machine guns.
Since full auto machine guns shouldn't even be regulated the way they are...
post 1543844291 02-14-2018, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Since full auto machine guns shouldn't even be regulated the way they are...
I don't even understand what you're saying here man. Obviously I am not going to change your mind. You aren't going to change mine. Hopefully neither of us ever experience what these families in Florida are experiencing right now.
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post 1543844341 02-14-2018, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted By joonbee128⏩
meh nazism was more of a cult than anything else, hitler also was very much of an islam sympathizer
post 1543844401 02-14-2018, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted By VoxExMachina⏩
Location: Australia

Your opinion: Invalid
My country may have problems but I'm sure glad we don't have bi-weekly mass shootings.
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post 1543844501 02-14-2018, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted By VoxExMachina⏩
At least you're not some idiotic foreigner weighing in on US issues.
To be fair, it's not like the US refrains from weighing in on other countries' issues... with a lot more than just words.
post 1543844581 02-14-2018, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted By joonbee128⏩
Not really. History has proven that people are mostly for themselves and/or people close to them. Throw in religion and people will just cherry-pick or distort it to rationalize whatever vile chit they're doing.
This isn't true at all.

Even a cursory study of the history of western civilization will show just the opposite. Christianty was the civilizing engine that powered Europe from from the era of the pagan emperors of Rome to the modern rule of law, recognition of the freedom of the individual, and system of free enterprise that we all benefit from today.
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post 1543844611 02-14-2018, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted By RamRod2334⏩
I don't even understand what you're saying here man. Obviously I am not going to change your mind. You aren't going to change mine. Hopefully neither of us ever experience what these families in Florida are experiencing right now.
A kid at my moms school made a threat a few weeks ago. They interrogated him, all he said was "I was joking", and thats that. Suspended for a bit but then walks back into school
post 1543844681 02-14-2018, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted By RespectYourself⏩
My country may have problems but I'm sure glad we don't have bi-weekly mass shootings.
must be nice
post 1543844881 02-14-2018, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted By VoxExMachina⏩
Location: Australia

Your opinion: Invalid
Yep, a country where they used to have guns and gun massacres, then the guns got removed without any major issues, and since then they haven't had the problem. Nothing relevant to gun massacres to see, move along.
post 1543844991 02-14-2018, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted By mTOR⏩
thx


forgot to mention: in google search, you have to go to tools >> Any Time >> Custom Range
Then set the date to something like 2012 - 2017 to filter out the loads of hits from today
looks like his youtube account is already deleted. I seen his comments 10 mins ago now they've disappeared.
post 1543845041 02-14-2018, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted By Reformed146⏩
Yep, a country where they used to have guns and gun massacres, then the guns got removed without any major issues, and since then they haven't had the problem. Nothing relevant to gun massacres to see, move along.
Australia doesn't have the 2nd amendment breh.

I mean if we didnt have that I'd be on board, but we do. So thats just not an option
post 1543845051 02-14-2018, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted By joonbee128⏩
Hitler hated Christianity and many Christians were thrown into concentration camps (or worse).

He was most definitely NOT Christian, nor was Nazism. However, Germany was still religious as a whole, so he had to hide his true feelings to gain power.

https://conservativecolloquium.wordp...ianity-quotes/

Nazism included a religious component that was decidedly not Christian. It was pagan and harkened back to the days of the ancient Germanic and Aryan tribes.
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post 1543845991 02-14-2018, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted By Reformed146⏩
Yep, a country where they used to have guns and gun massacres, then the guns got removed without any major issues, and since then they haven't had the problem. Nothing relevant to gun massacres to see, move along.
First question: Do you support an attempt at an Australian type gun ban in the US?
post 1543846171 02-14-2018, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted By Reformed146⏩
Yep, a country where they used to have guns and gun massacres, then the guns got removed without any major issues, and since then they haven't had the problem. Nothing relevant to gun massacres to see, move along.
FYI there are more guns in Aus now than before the ban

The more you know...
post 1543846301 02-14-2018, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
FYI there are more guns in Aus now than before the ban

The more you know...
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Originally Posted By Lucianus⏩
looks like his youtube account is already deleted. I seen his comments 10 mins ago now they've disappeared.
Some.

Fromhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQDhy5dzX9w:
Nikolas Cruz
1 year ago
Elliot rodger will not be forgotten
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVy...1MFoNIrERLHBSwseems to be 1 of his main accounts

His comments are prob getting removed piecemeal by the owners of the various youtube videos he has commented on. So may want to screencap & webarchive 'em if possible
post 1543846731 02-14-2018, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted By RamRod2334⏩
Bullchit I have a close personal friend that was at that concert for a surprise 30th birthday getaway with his fiance. He said the gunfire was so rapid everyone on the ground thought there was at least 3 or 4 shooters. Bumpstocks turned those semi autos into fully auto machine guns.
my friend came back from deployment and was at the same concert, he thought it was a high powered hunting rifle, said he's seen infantry shoot bolt action rifles with speeds similar.
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But how do we know this really happened and isn't just made up by libcucks and the MSM trying to push gun control? Just lol if you're naive enough to think widespread availability of semi automatic weapons somehow correlates to more deaths
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
First question: Do you support an attempt at an Australian type gun ban in the US?
I don't care, except that it sickens me to see kids offing each other anywhere. But I'm not American, and I really don't like "holier than thou" dikheads so I'm not going to preach about it. We had enough of that in the fuking vegan thread.

If you guys think guns are worth it, that's cool. I think cars are worth the road toll too, but I don't delude myself that their availability is unrelated to the road toll.
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Originally Posted By SippyCups⏩
But how do we know this really happened and isn't just made up by libcucks and the MSM trying to push gun control? Just lol if you're naive enough to think widespread availability of semi automatic weapons somehow correlates to more deaths
More mass murderers use SSRI's than semi automatic rifles.
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Originally Posted By Reformed146⏩
Yep, a country where they used to have guns and gun massacres, then the guns got removed without any major issues, and since then they haven't had the problem. Nothing relevant to gun massacres to see, move along.
U didn't even have shootings before port arthur. Australia's gun ban was an overreaction to a historic event
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Originally Posted By VoxExMachina⏩
Location: Australia

Your opinion: Invalid
What's your point? He can't weigh in on an issue?

Brb, Saudi's subjugate women..

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Originally Posted By RamRod2334⏩
Bullchit I have a close personal friend that was at that concert for a surprise 30th birthday getaway with his fiance. He said the gunfire was so rapid everyone on the ground thought there was at least 3 or 4 shooters. Bumpstocks turned those semi autos into fully auto machine guns.
Echos will make it sound like there is more shots going off then there is. I hunted growing up and still the odd time go target shooting with my dad. In a huge valley you will get a few echos from one shot. Now think with a bunch of buildings made of glass in Las Vegas. One shot will have the sound bouncing around. I know there are people that will say they can tell the difference but when you have some dude firing into a crowd people wont be able to tell the difference and if he is firing off a couple shots per second it wont take long for it to sound like a full automatic weapon.
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Originally Posted By vickissick07⏩
More mass murderers use SSRI's than semi automatic rifles.
This is always the glossed over issue
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Originally Posted By havoc00⏩
the school in question was located in a Gun Free School Zone...this means absolutely nothing to a gunman looking to kill.
It means everything to a law abiding citizen who was unarmed at the time of the shooting.

the average response time for the police in Parkland Fl, according to their own web page documentation which I’ve included in the link is 5-6 minutes. This leaves the gunman 5-6 minutes of shooting with repercussion

if anyone in the proximity of this shooter had been allowed to carry a firearm this gunman would have been dead before killing so many students.
The only problem with that is how do you decide who carries and who doesnt? You cant exactly just give every teacher a gun. If you have a couple security guards at the school with guns and the shooter knows that they will just take them out first.
Its sorta a ****ty situation where I'm not really sure there is an answer on how to stop it. One thing is it seems like there is always warning signs that people ignore. If a kid sees something they gotta say something. Let the police look into it. If the kid is troubled then get them help. IMO this is a mental health issue. They expelled this kid for some reason. Is expelling kids really the answer? Sure they might be times that it is the answer but trying to figure out what is going on and let them work through their issues could also be the answer. But.... that costs money and its easier for the administration of the school to tell the kid to **** off so its not their problem anymore.
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someone bring me up to date on what the most recent findings have beeen what were the motives ect


no sjw cnn spin pls
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