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02-15-2018, 10:57 AM
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This was also yesterday, at the public schools about 20 minutes from where I work and 10 minutes from the school my nieces attend.
http://www.whio.com/news/local/loade...YkH5wb3ipquOJ/
The 14-year-old was on active probation for a previous felony theft charge.
According to the report, the student is a half-day student and typically leaves the school around 11:30 a.m., but is known to the school resource officer and other staff to have “some behavioral issues.”
The student returned to the school and was spotted looking through classroom windows, the report said.
http://www.whio.com/news/local/loade...YkH5wb3ipquOJ/
The 14-year-old was on active probation for a previous felony theft charge.
According to the report, the student is a half-day student and typically leaves the school around 11:30 a.m., but is known to the school resource officer and other staff to have “some behavioral issues.”
The student returned to the school and was spotted looking through classroom windows, the report said.
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02-15-2018, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted By midcoastking33⏩
Just dishing it back brothaStrong appeal to emotion. How very liberal of you
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02-15-2018, 11:02 AM
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Mass shootings in the States are such a blip in the death toll compared to other accidental deaths, drug deaths, illness etc., that I think it's just something that needs to be expected in a modern society with massive population. With the gun laws, the cat is kind of already out of the bag, too many guns in circulation already. If someone wants a gun, even if they are made illegal, i'm sure it will be pretty easy to procure one despite gun laws. If you're nuts enough to shoot up a school, you're nuts enough to acquire a gun by any means necessary.
That being said, more strict gun laws would likely deter retards like the FLA shooter as he's probably too stupid to acquire an AR otherwise. He's mos def doing alot less damage if he can only get his hands on a hand gun.
Not sure why people can't debate peacefully in here without resorting to name calling etc... just makes you look heated / defensive / ignorant. It's ok to have different opinions.
That being said, more strict gun laws would likely deter retards like the FLA shooter as he's probably too stupid to acquire an AR otherwise. He's mos def doing alot less damage if he can only get his hands on a hand gun.
Not sure why people can't debate peacefully in here without resorting to name calling etc... just makes you look heated / defensive / ignorant. It's ok to have different opinions.
02-15-2018, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted By keels141⏩
How about Eurobrahs and ANZACbrahs lecturing Americabrahs about 1) U.S. gun laws, 2) our constitution, and 3) how we should solve our law & order problems.Dunno what's more predictable: another mass shooting in the US by a mentally unstable person with access to guns, or the standard "2nd amendment, constitutional rights" response from Seppo miscers.
BRB Australia hasn't had a mass shooting in 25 years, I wonder if that is somehow related to the lack of guns available?
BRB Australia hasn't had a mass shooting in 25 years, I wonder if that is somehow related to the lack of guns available?
^ I think this is the most predictable of all.
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02-15-2018, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted By Foxmulder0⏩
Lmao. This is a clear case of someone talking about something they know absolutely nothing about.THE ONLY GUN you should be able to buy as a US citizen is a handgun. Period.No more of these semi automatics or whatever. It’s over.
You get your 2nd amendment rights still as you’ll have a gun, you’ll be limited how much ammunition you can have per year. End of story.
No reason this hasn’t been a law yet- gun bros want there guns, well there ya go. You still get your gun.
You get your 2nd amendment rights still as you’ll have a gun, you’ll be limited how much ammunition you can have per year. End of story.
No reason this hasn’t been a law yet- gun bros want there guns, well there ya go. You still get your gun.
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02-15-2018, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted By .:Chris:.⏩
Lol this is hilarious. You guys actually think the only thing stopping the Government taking your property is you sitting on the front porch in a rocking chair with your high powered assault rifles.I'll reply for him:
Slavery and Tyranny.
Slavery and Tyranny.
And yes we have all been enslaved by the Government over here because we don't own guns.

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02-15-2018, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted By Godyssey⏩
I live in one of these top 6 states...and was mind fukked to see we rank in the top of "death by firearms"Lemme lay this here for ultimate ether.
States with highest rate of "death by firearm":
1 - Alaska. No permit required for firearm. (80% suicides. so lets not count this, for your sake)
2 - Louisiana. No Permit required for firearm.
3 - Mississippi. No Permit required for firearm
4 - Alabama. No Permit required for firearm.
5 - Arkansas. No Permit required for firearm.
6 - Montana. No Permit required for firearm.
I'm glad you guys brought up how lax Indianas gun laws. You right wing guys loooove bringing up liberal Chicago. Guess where a massive amount of the guns used in Chicago are from? (hint: the answer is Indiana)
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States with highest rate of "death by firearm":
1 - Alaska. No permit required for firearm. (80% suicides. so lets not count this, for your sake)
2 - Louisiana. No Permit required for firearm.
3 - Mississippi. No Permit required for firearm
4 - Alabama. No Permit required for firearm.
5 - Arkansas. No Permit required for firearm.
6 - Montana. No Permit required for firearm.
I'm glad you guys brought up how lax Indianas gun laws. You right wing guys loooove bringing up liberal Chicago. Guess where a massive amount of the guns used in Chicago are from? (hint: the answer is Indiana)
LMFAO RIP
I had to see if this was true because if so, it is never reported...and majority of my state is very rural so any kinda news travels fast
From the CDC...I aint digging any further *******
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/s...ty/firearm.htm
Alaska - 177 deaths in 2016
Louisiana - 987
Mississippi - 587
Alabama - 1046
Arkansas - 541
Montana - 194
Compared:
Cuckifornia - 3184
Illinois - 1490
Fukk outta here with your fake news
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02-15-2018, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted By keels141⏩
No one likes to be shot at my friend.Lol this is hilarious. You guys actually think the only thing stopping the Government taking your property is you sitting on the front porch in a rocking chair with your high powered assault rifles.
And yes we have all been enslaved by the Government over here because we don't own guns.
And yes we have all been enslaved by the Government over here because we don't own guns.

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02-15-2018, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted By keels141⏩
Quick question, could you ever fight back if your government ever fully turned on you and your fellow citizens?Lol this is hilarious. You guys actually think the only thing stopping the Government taking your property is you sitting on the front porch in a rocking chair with your high powered assault rifles.
And yes we have all been enslaved by the Government over here because we don't own guns.
And yes we have all been enslaved by the Government over here because we don't own guns.

I'm not asking you whether you believe it'll happen or not, I'm asking you if you could fight back.
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02-15-2018, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues⏩
Men are, always have been, and always will be more violent than women.yea no one seems to wanna tackle why young girls are NOT doing this, u know
edit- why is the modern teen male so particularly disaffected
edit- why is the modern teen male so particularly disaffected
Look at all of human history, all times, all countries, everywhere...the ones who commit acts of violence and kill are very disproportionately male.
02-15-2018, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
Of course you did, you don't want to admit to realityI didnt say anything about concealed carry areas, I said USA as a whole. LOL at only being concerened with certain areas of the country.
02-15-2018, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted By alexesc⏩
How many defensive gun uses do you guys have each year?Well I wonder why we don't get school shootings (specifically) in the UK. Pretty sure we have psychopaths running around our streets as well
How many police officers get injured or killed each year because they can't handle a suspect with a knife, even if there are like 20 officers on scene?
02-15-2018, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted By FearThisjake⏩
Dont worry big brother will always protect him. Oh wait..Quick question, could you ever fight back if your government ever fully turned on you and your fellow citizens?
I'm not asking you whether you believe it'll happen or not, I'm asking you if you could fight back.
I'm not asking you whether you believe it'll happen or not, I'm asking you if you could fight back.
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02-15-2018, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed⏩
A catholic who is pro-gun which further enables this violent degeneracy.How about Eurobrahs and ANZACbrahs lecturing Americabrahs about 1) U.S. gun laws, 2) our constitution, and 3) how we should solve our law & order problems.
^ I think this is the most predictable of all.
^ I think this is the most predictable of all.
Make sure you extent your prayer a bit longer before bed tonight brah.
02-15-2018, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted By .:Chris:.⏩
No one likes to be shot at my friend.
Originally Posted By FearThisjake⏩
BTW, the term "police state" is the term that it is for a reason.Quick question, could you ever fight back if your government ever fully turned on you and your fellow citizens?
I'm not asking you whether you believe it'll happen or not, I'm asking you if you could fight back.
I'm not asking you whether you believe it'll happen or not, I'm asking you if you could fight back.
But hey, when some soldiers come along and round people up to put them on train cars or line them up along a ditch to shoot in the back of the head, there's no way anybody with a gun could possibly fight back because there's a fighter jet over there a few miles away somewhere and an aircraft carrier out in the gulf
02-15-2018, 11:21 AM
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Probably already been said but I'm not reading 1,100 posts to find out.
The guy was obviously mentally disturbed but I think he was another ER forever alone type that wanted to destroy other people and give himself a sense that he has power in this world when really he was just another average expendable male without a purpose in life and without a woman and that's why he chose Valentine's Day to do this.
The guy was obviously mentally disturbed but I think he was another ER forever alone type that wanted to destroy other people and give himself a sense that he has power in this world when really he was just another average expendable male without a purpose in life and without a woman and that's why he chose Valentine's Day to do this.
02-15-2018, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted By FearThisjake⏩
What do you mean if my Government turned on me - can you explain how that would even be possible?Quick question, could you ever fight back if your government ever fully turned on you and your fellow citizens?
I'm not asking you whether you believe it'll happen or not, I'm asking you if you could fight back.
I'm not asking you whether you believe it'll happen or not, I'm asking you if you could fight back.
And you are saying that if the president and the rest of the government decided to turn on you and invade your property, you could just kill him with a gun and carry on with your life?
I don't see how having a gun to defend yourself from the government is relevant in this day and age.
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02-15-2018, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted By keels141⏩
History always repeats itself.What do you mean if my Government turned on me - can you explain how that would even be possible?
And you are saying that if the president and the rest of the government decided to turn on you and invade your property, you could just kill him with a gun and carry on with your life?
I don't see how having a gun to defend yourself from the government is relevant in this day and age.
And you are saying that if the president and the rest of the government decided to turn on you and invade your property, you could just kill him with a gun and carry on with your life?
I don't see how having a gun to defend yourself from the government is relevant in this day and age.
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02-15-2018, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted By Foxmulder0⏩
So what about hunters or sport shooters? That would be extremely cruel to shoot a deer with a hand gun..THE ONLY GUN you should be able to buy as a US citizen is a handgun. Period. No more of these semi automatics or whatever. It’s over.
You get your 2nd amendment rights still as you’ll have a gun, you’ll be limited how much ammunition you can have per year. End of story.
No reason this hasn’t been a law yet- gun bros want there guns, well there ya go. You still get your gun.
You get your 2nd amendment rights still as you’ll have a gun, you’ll be limited how much ammunition you can have per year. End of story.
No reason this hasn’t been a law yet- gun bros want there guns, well there ya go. You still get your gun.
02-15-2018, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted By keels141⏩
Why don't you google "coup d'etat" genius....What do you mean if my Government turned on me - can you explain how that would even be possible?
And you are saying that if the president and the rest of the government decided to turn on you and invade your property, you could just kill him with a gun and carry on with your life?
I don't see how having a gun to defend yourself from the government is relevant in this day and age.
And you are saying that if the president and the rest of the government decided to turn on you and invade your property, you could just kill him with a gun and carry on with your life?
I don't see how having a gun to defend yourself from the government is relevant in this day and age.
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02-15-2018, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted By Foxmulder0⏩
Do you know that the VAST majority of murders committed with a firearm use handguns?THE ONLY GUN you should be able to buy as a US citizen is a handgun. Period. No more of these semi automatics or whatever. It’s over.
You get your 2nd amendment rights still as you’ll have a gun, you’ll be limited how much ammunition you can have per year. End of story.
No reason this hasn’t been a law yet- gun bros want there guns, well there ya go. You still get your gun.
You get your 2nd amendment rights still as you’ll have a gun, you’ll be limited how much ammunition you can have per year. End of story.
No reason this hasn’t been a law yet- gun bros want there guns, well there ya go. You still get your gun.
Real life, it called. You should answer instead of going full potato with your rampant bull****
PS: 2nd Amendment protects from infringement. Look up the word infringement. k thanks
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Originally Posted By keels141⏩
These people didnt think the gov wouldnt turn on themWhat do you mean if my Government turned on me - can you explain how that would even be possible?
And you are saying that if the president and the rest of the government decided to turn on you and invade your property, you could just kill him with a gun and carry on with your life?
I don't see how having a gun to defend yourself from the government is relevant in this day and age.
And you are saying that if the president and the rest of the government decided to turn on you and invade your property, you could just kill him with a gun and carry on with your life?
I don't see how having a gun to defend yourself from the government is relevant in this day and age.
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Originally Posted By .:Chris:.⏩
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Originally Posted By thedarrenestes⏩
Now compare the population of CA and IL to those mentioned. It's adjusted for population and per. You have no idea how statistics work and I feel bad because you typed all that out but had ZERO IDEA that the stats are adjusted for population. Holy fukk HahahahahahaI live in one of these top 6 states...and was mind fukked to see we rank in the top of "death by firearms"
I had to see if this was true because if so, it is never reported...and majority of my state is very rural so any kinda news travels fast
From the CDC...I aint digging any further *******
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/s...ty/firearm.htm
Alaska - 177 deaths in 2016
Louisiana - 987
Mississippi - 587
Alabama - 1046
Arkansas - 541
Montana - 194
Compared:
Cuckifornia - 3184
Illinois - 1490
Fukk outta here with your fake news
I had to see if this was true because if so, it is never reported...and majority of my state is very rural so any kinda news travels fast
From the CDC...I aint digging any further *******
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/s...ty/firearm.htm
Alaska - 177 deaths in 2016
Louisiana - 987
Mississippi - 587
Alabama - 1046
Arkansas - 541
Montana - 194
Compared:
Cuckifornia - 3184
Illinois - 1490
Fukk outta here with your fake news
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
If it is a rogue govt and they are gonna kill you anyways you wouldnt want to take down a few soldiers in the process? Lets be perfectly honest though. At this point I cant see that happening anyways. If the govt legit turned on the population the military would most likely overthrow the govt. The issue is if they get to the point where they have robot soldiers and ai controlled vehicles that could be programmed to just do what they told.BTW, the term "police state" is the term that it is for a reason.
But hey, when some soldiers come along and round people up to put them on train cars or line them up along a ditch to shoot in the back of the head, there's no way anybody with a gun could possibly fight back because there's a fighter jet over there a few miles away somewhere and an aircraft carrier out in the gulf
But hey, when some soldiers come along and round people up to put them on train cars or line them up along a ditch to shoot in the back of the head, there's no way anybody with a gun could possibly fight back because there's a fighter jet over there a few miles away somewhere and an aircraft carrier out in the gulf
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Originally Posted By midcoastking33⏩
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Originally Posted By keels141⏩
This isn't Australia. What you don't know about our constitution and why we are able to bare arms can probably fill a fuking book. Please, just stop.What do you mean if my Government turned on me - can you explain how that would even be possible?
And you are saying that if the president and the rest of the government decided to turn on you and invade your property, you could just kill him with a gun and carry on with your life?
I don't see how having a gun to defend yourself from the government is relevant in this day and age.
And you are saying that if the president and the rest of the government decided to turn on you and invade your property, you could just kill him with a gun and carry on with your life?
I don't see how having a gun to defend yourself from the government is relevant in this day and age.
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I'm a pro-gun republican however I do admit that there should be some changes made. I don't believe people should lose their rights to own guns. I do think that there should be stricter background checks and mental health checks to help eliminate guns getting into the hands of bad people.
I also believe that there should be strict laws that state if one of your guns is used to kill then you are held liable for those actions.
This way if you're mentally stable, not a criminal, and can secure your firearms you should have nothing to worry about.
I don't have all the answers and don't know what would work. However I do think that people on the extreme left (gun grabbers) and people on the extreme right (we don't need to change anything) are both idiots.
I also believe that there should be strict laws that state if one of your guns is used to kill then you are held liable for those actions.
This way if you're mentally stable, not a criminal, and can secure your firearms you should have nothing to worry about.
I don't have all the answers and don't know what would work. However I do think that people on the extreme left (gun grabbers) and people on the extreme right (we don't need to change anything) are both idiots.
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Originally Posted By keels141⏩
You're doing exactly what I figured you'd do - not answer the question and ask for meaningless specifics as a way to discredit the simple task of answering a simple yes or no questionWhat do you mean if my Government turned on me - can you explain how that would even be possible?
And you are saying that if the president and the rest of the government decided to turn on you and invade your property, you could just kill him with a gun and carry on with your life?
I don't see how having a gun to defend yourself from the government is relevant in this day and age.
And you are saying that if the president and the rest of the government decided to turn on you and invade your property, you could just kill him with a gun and carry on with your life?
I don't see how having a gun to defend yourself from the government is relevant in this day and age.
I don't think my government is going to turn on me any time soon, but that doesn't mean that they won't or that they don't have the power to do so. Governments as a whole are becoming a LOT more authoritarian as time is progressing, that should be pretty obvious. To believe that at some point in the future that it won't happen is naive. It has happened in the past, history does in fact repeat itself. That is something you can count on. Everything builds up to a breaking point and then it resets. I mean, look at nearly every revolution for practically every country that has ever had one.
So, just answer the question. Could you ever fight back against a tyrannical government or entity, be it yours or foreign, if it was to ever happen? It's happened here before and we set fourth rules to help safe guard future civilians.
Also, you implied that having rifles vs jets is futile. Do you even Stallingrad? I know you'd rather just lay in the dirt, like a coward, but I wouldn't. But I feel for you, because that's your only option.
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