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post 1543896741 02-15-2018, 11:33 AM
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Details about Cruz’s troubled past have emerged hours after the deadly shooting. The 19-year-old was a former student at the high school, but was expelled in the last school year after getting into a fight with the boyfriend of his ex-girlfriend, a student told The Associated Press.
Guess this guy wasn't a FA after all. He had a GF at one point. It's scary to think this massacre happened over him getting expelled due to some guy dating his ex.

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post 1543896871 02-15-2018, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted By Irezumi⏩
This isn't Australia. What you don't know about our constitution and why we are able to bare arms can probably fill a fuking book. Please, just stop.
I understand the importance of the constitution, but shouldn't a country's constitution benefit it's people? (unless it's a dictatorship)

I know the guns are for fighting the government, but in 2018, when if the general population try to overthrow the government and harm the elites, weapons such as chemical and biological will be used, in which guns can't retaliate or defeat.

I understand the importance of the constitution, but does it really mean it cannot be altered if it's negatively impacting the country?

Look at the bible for example, they've had to change it multiple times to adapt to society.
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Originally Posted By Lucianus⏩
Ah right. You want guns so are OK with the murders. You "expect" it. How empowering.

I guess that settles it then.
In the US between 64k and 250k people use guns in self defense.

How many in the UK can say that? Oh yeah none because you guys are all a bunch of victims. Hell youve even had cops stabbed to death because they didnt have guns to shoot the bad guy.

Thats sad
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Originally Posted By .:Chris:.⏩
Good to know that you can read.
Look into what cognitive dissonance means and get back to me sport
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Originally Posted By midcoastking33⏩
Look into what cognitive dissonance means and get back to me sport
Curious at why you quoted my estrogen and menstruating male comment, did you feel that it pertained to you or did you feel offended in some way?

Libs are pussyfing this country.
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post 1543897251 02-15-2018, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted By thedarrenestes⏩
I live in one of these top 6 states...and was mind fukked to see we rank in the top of "death by firearms"
I had to see if this was true because if so, it is never reported...and majority of my state is very rural so any kinda news travels fast

From the CDC...I aint digging any further *******
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/s...ty/firearm.htm

Alaska - 177 deaths in 2016
Louisiana - 987
Mississippi - 587
Alabama - 1046
Arkansas - 541
Montana - 194

Compared:

Cuckifornia - 3184
Illinois - 1490

Fukk outta here with your fake news
but who was population ratio...
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post 1543897381 02-15-2018, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
In the US between 64k and 250k people use guns in self defense.

How many in the UK can say that? Oh yeah none because you guys are all a bunch of victims. Hell youve even had cops stabbed to death because they didnt have guns to shoot the bad guy.

Thats sad
We'll keep our death rates much lower, be much more safe attending school and remain sad, thanks.
post 1543897451 02-15-2018, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted By FreshStart12⏩
I'm a pro-gun republican however I do admit that there should be some changes made. I don't believe people should lose their rights to own guns. I do think that there should be stricter background checks and mental health checks to help eliminate guns getting into the hands of bad people.

I also believe that there should be strict laws that state if one of your guns is used to kill then you are held liable for those actions.

This way if you're mentally stable, not a criminal, and can secure your firearms you should have nothing to worry about.

I don't have all the answers and don't know what would work. However I do think that people on the extreme left (gun grabbers) and people on the extreme right (we don't need to change anything) are both idiots.
Well said.

Tbh I don't know why I jumped in this thread when I know it was a shouting match - and I'm far more interested in civil and rational debate. There's people that will complain about EVVVVERYTHING in life. We just have to find some sort of medium with firearm ownership and laws that filter at risk individuals. And how about proper education and parenting...

Sorry but I cant agree to relinquishing ownership of an AR 15 because some wackjob committed a media frenzy spree shooting, when he would have used a pistol if AR 15's were illegal anyways, or a bomb if pistols were illegal anyways-which the leftists won't address.
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post 1543897671 02-15-2018, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted By Lucianus⏩
We'll keep our death rates much lower, be much more safe attending school and remain sad, thanks.
But yet your homicide rate is exactly the same as before the gun ban. So banning guns did what exactly? Not to mention how it skyrocketted for the decade after the ban. Lotta innocent people killed who would have been without the ban. Shame

But as long as the people murdered now are not killed by guns its cool
post 1543897781 02-15-2018, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted By ilykejordans⏩
but who was population ratio...
louisiana population - 4.6 million

california population - 39 million


But yeah, Cuckifornia hurr durr.
post 1543898361 02-15-2018, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted By Lucianus⏩
louisiana population - 4.6 million

california population - 39 million


But yeah, Cuckifornia hurr durr.
Gun "deaths" is a misnomer as it includes suicides, police shootings, justifiable homicides and accidental deaths. Only number that matters is gun homicides

Over 1/3 of those numbers occur in LA alone. Majority of CA is very safe. Once again you have densely populated democrat run areas of poor people who shoot each other daily and it brings down the US as a whole. 99.9999% of the US is a leave it beaver type area but 3-4 large cities skew it for the entire country
post 1543898401 02-15-2018, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩
Well said.

Tbh I don't know why I jumped in this thread when I know it was a shouting match - and I'm far more interested in civil and rational debate. There's people that will complain about EVVVVERYTHING in life. We just have to find some sort of medium with firearm ownership and laws that filter at risk individuals. And how about proper education and parenting...

Sorry but I cant agree to relinquishing ownership of an AR 15 because some wackjob committed a media frenzy spree shooting, when he would have used a pistol if AR 15's were illegal anyways, or abomb if pistols were illegal anyways-which the leftists won't address.
Well, bombs take much more pre-planning and knowledge. Something a teenager isn't abundant in. Columbine kids tried bombs and they failed. Firing a gun simply takes one pulling a trigger at around 5-7 pounds of pressure and have enough forethought to bring enough ammo and mags.
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Originally Posted By ilykejordans⏩
but who was population ratio...
Don't pay attention to that origin post (the one from the "policeman") he conflated the fuk out of his data and then refuted his own point by citing gun homicide is most prevalent in areas with poverty. He's apparently a cop but couldn't include that the cities with the highest murder rate are major drug trafficking channels.

Again, something our bros in England and Australia will never deal with. The most violent and wealthy criminal organizations funneling drugs to street gangsters who murder each other over territory and blood money.
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post 1543898591 02-15-2018, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
In the US between 64k and 250k people use guns in self defense.

How many in the UK can say that? Oh yeah none because you guys are all a bunch of victims. Hell youve even had cops stabbed to death because they didnt have guns to shoot the bad guy.

Thats sad

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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
But yet your homicide rate is exactly the same as before the gun ban. So banning guns did what exactly? Not to mention how it skyrocketted for the decade after the ban. Lotta innocent people killed who would have been without the ban. Shame

But as long as the people murdered now are not killed by guns its cool
I mean lower than the USA.

Guns were never popular in the UK to begin with.
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Originally Posted By Lucianus⏩
I understand the importance of the constitution, but shouldn't a country's constitution benefit it's people? (unless it's a dictatorship)
It does.

Thanks for asking though.
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
But yet your homicide rate is exactly the same as before the gun ban.
Too much real life. Can't be having that
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Originally Posted By Lucianus⏩
I understand the importance of the constitution, but shouldn't a country's constitution benefit it's people? (unless it's a dictatorship)

I know the guns are for fighting the government, but in 2018, when if the general population try to overthrow the government and harm the elites, weapons such as chemical and biological will be used, in which guns can't retaliate or defeat.

I understand the importance of the constitution, but does it really mean it cannot be altered if it's negatively impacting the country?

Look at the bible for example, they've had to change it multiple times to adapt to society.
We're a constitutional republic. Our founding fathers were rightly worried about direct democracy. Some things are too important to be left to the whims of what is fashionable to the majority at any particular moment.

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Originally Posted By Lucianus⏩
I mean lower than the USA.

Guns were never popular in the UK to begin with.
Again you are basing that information on a data skewed heavily by 3 or 4 cities with large gang populations that account for 80-90% of the population.

The US doesnt have a gun problem. We have a gang problem
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed⏩
We're a constitutional republic. Our founding fathers were rightly worried about direct democracy. Some things are too important to be left to the whims of what is fashionable to the majority at any particular moment.

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!" - Benjamin Franklin
Ok. So what will you do against chemical/biological warfare?
Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
Again you are basing that information on a data skewed heavily by 3 or 4 cities with large gang populations that account for 80-90% of the population.

The US doesnt have a gun problem. We have a gang problem
We have plenty of gang problems too, but our schools don't get shot up every few weeks by non-gang members, or gang members for that matter.
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Originally Posted By Tuksonrider⏩
Well, bombs take much more pre-planning and knowledge. Something a teenager isn't abundant in. Columbine kids tried bombs and they failed. Firing a gun simply takes one pulling a trigger at around 5-7 pounds of pressure and have enough forethought to bring enough ammo and mags.
All true, but in different scenarios bombs can be far more lethal like McVeigh, and that's one example from hundreds. There's been plenty of cases of spree shootings that resulted in relatively few deaths as well. And teenagers aren't the only profile of spree shooters.

And accessibility to a certain weapon doesn't negate the intent though it may diminish lethality. Inmates make weapons out of toilet paper and jolly ranchers.
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed⏩
We're a constitutional republic. Our founding fathers were rightly worried about direct democracy. Some things are too important to be left to the whims of what is fashionable to the majority at any particular moment.

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!" - Benjamin Franklin
This guy gets it.

But hey, if it's really that important to ban or infringe on guns, get an Amendment passed that cancels out the Second.

It still wouldn't be right, but it would be legal.
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Originally Posted By Tuksonrider⏩
Firing a gun simply takes one pulling a trigger at around 5-7 pounds of pressure
Exactly why they are the great equalizer. You don't have to be a young fit strong violent male to adequately defend yourself.

Sam Colt was right
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
Again you are basing that information on a data skewed heavily by 3 or 4 cities with large gang populations that account for 80-90% of the population.

The US doesnt have a gun problem. We have a gang problem
we also have a school shooting problem, unless you want to claim it's totally normal that this happens here and not really anywhere else at comparable levels
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Originally Posted By omnip0tent⏩
Real talk... WE DISARM ALL CITIZENS OF THE WORLD. ONLY PEOPLE WITH GUNS ARE:

-Govt
-Police
-Military


What happens next? Please enlighten me in how YOU THINK the next part of that story plays out. Seriously...?

If you really believe you can fight the US government with your little guns, you are beyond stupid.
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Exactly why they are the great equalizer. You don't have to be a young fit strong violent male to adequately defend yourself.

Sam Colt was right
this isnt call of duty. Guns are not an equalizer it depends on how your skill level. A lot of people arent good enough to execute under pressure in that kind of situation anyway.

The great equalizer would be nobody has a gun
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Originally Posted By Future24⏩
If you really believe you can fight the US government with your little guns, you are beyond stupid.
also LOL at thinking our noble honored american armed forces would voluntary go rogue and start hurting innocent people
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Can we stop with the hypothetical "what if the government turned on us" spiel at least? We all know a vast majority of servicemen would defect if such a situation would arise
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It’s sad we as American look upto to tools that try to scream ‘Merica, wear American flag clothes and shoot guns off..’instead of loooing like utter post frat morons, people they think are cool.

And here we are.. GUNS WOOO MERICA

Meanwhile, 17 parents will be laying their child to rest and saying goodbye, but, ya know, we still got Toby Keith and Grunt Style.
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Originally Posted By Lucianus⏩
Ok. So what will you do against chemical/biological warfare?
In what way? Do you mean to imply that school shootings will soon be replaced by mustard gas attacks by emo teenagers, or that terrorists will use airborne pathogens to kill people by the thousands?

I'll tell you one thing for sure, having a DISARMED population surely wouldn't prevent either of those types of incidents.
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