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02-14-2018, 07:11 AM
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02-14-2018, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted By BRBMakingMoney⏩
Calm down old man. It's a joke.So I can only date 23.5 year olds and up? No thanks. Many of the girls I see are under 23 and they are great company and very much appreciate an older attractive, successful and mature man.
So I'll be seeing 18-23 year olds well into my 40's-50's thanks. Once I hit my 50's I may be forced to splash cash on them to compete with younger guys, but so be it. Better off taking care of an 18 year old's rent than having to deal with the bullchit demands some of these 30 somethings make you meet.
There are attractive women in their 30's and even 40's to be sure, but they almost always overvalue themselves in the SMP. How can some 30 something demand more than a 21yo? When a 21yo is considered almost universally more sexually attractive than a 30 something? Yet they do.
So I'll be seeing 18-23 year olds well into my 40's-50's thanks. Once I hit my 50's I may be forced to splash cash on them to compete with younger guys, but so be it. Better off taking care of an 18 year old's rent than having to deal with the bullchit demands some of these 30 somethings make you meet.
There are attractive women in their 30's and even 40's to be sure, but they almost always overvalue themselves in the SMP. How can some 30 something demand more than a 21yo? When a 21yo is considered almost universally more sexually attractive than a 30 something? Yet they do.
Date from last night flaked at the last minute. She's a lawyer, and I got the "have an emergency case I need to work on, really sorry, etc." line from her. Just responded with ok, let me know when youre free, and good luck tomorrow text. Going NC until I get a response. She seemed really interested, so could be a legit excuse, so cant go full balls deep on the attitude. Decided to take advantage of the sudden free night on my off gym day and got off early from work to go skiing.
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02-14-2018, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted By UnclRuckus⏩
There are some advantages to older girls. Experience (usually better in bed), more reliable, less flakey, can often host (for us married guys that's a blessing when the younger ones always live with their parents and you have to pay for hotels), easier to relate to, more mature emotionally and mentally (usually). There are some pretty big downsides though. So I can understand ruling them out, as I said, I generally do too, and I'm not even looking for something serious obviously.The drop off in value is way more severe too. At this point I honestly don't even consider starting a serious relationship with a girl my own age anymore, because they're well past their prime and pretty close to the wall. Not gonna start something with a girl with only a few good years left.
Originally Posted By TheIronAsylum⏩
I'm 33 and no longer lie about my age to them. I've found these things generally help me:whats your go to for these age chicks how do you keep getting them.... as they are the highest value women and can have any younger guy not to mention the hot ones are all in social groups in college ect
- I'm dominant, confident, intelligent and always take the lead
- I'm mature and act my age (I don't pretend to be a frat/party boy, I still have fun with them but I don't act like the young guys they hang out with)
- I'm successful/wealthy
- I offer to 'mentor' them
- I take them to places younger guys generally won't take them (nice bars/restaurants/hotels etc.)
- I'm very sexual and forward but not immature or 'horny' and happy to introduce/teach them new things sexually as well as happy to explore their fantasies etc.
- I treat them well
- I'm 'dark' and mysterious
- I try to present an older/attractive/successful/charming businessman persona (think Don Draper, Harvey Specter, Richard Gere in Pretty Woman etc.) I actually suit up for almost all of my dates and use work as the reason
- On Tinder etc. I convey all of the above in my pics/texts
Men aged around ~35 (if they've taken care of themselves) are actually at their peak. I'm probably better looking now than I ever was, and I'm alot wealthier and wiser than I've ever been before, both attractive traits. 35 is pretty much a guys SMV peak I'd say. If not even older if he takes care of himself and becomes even more successful/higher status. I can honestly say that it is easier for me to get 18-23 year olds now than it is has ever been in the past. It gets easier every year as I get older.
Every year of my life has been better than the last in terms of a) earnings b) women, every single year since I was 18. It keeps getting better and better, so don't worry too much about getting older. I'm not looking forward to the first year of my life when I actually do worse than the year before, then I'll know I've peaked. Barring the unforeseen, I'm guessing that might happen somewhere around 40-45. But who knows.
02-14-2018, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted By BRBMakingMoney⏩
Yeah for sure, but assuming it's gonna last they'll grow up eventually. Hosting won't be a problem if I'm looking for something serious either. I wouldn't date the typical 19 year old, but some are actually surprisingly mature at that age.There are some advantages to older girls. Experience (usually better in bed), more reliable, less flakey, can often host (for us married guys that's a blessing when the younger ones always live with their parents and you have to pay for hotels), easier to relate to, more mature emotionally and mentally (usually). There are some pretty big downsides though. So I can understand ruling them out, as I said, I generally do too, and I'm not even looking for something serious obviously.
I think of all women as children anyway so it's not really a big difference in my eyes. Never found a woman I'd consider my equal unfortunately, maybe if I did I'd change my perspective but I doubt I will.
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02-14-2018, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted By UnclRuckus⏩
Why not? I can and do, even the immature ones. I definitely have less fun spending time with them than a more mature younger girl, but they can still be fun sexually and we can still be friends. I'll often see them less frequently than the one's I really click with though and do find myself less enamored of them.I wouldn't date the typical 19 year old, but some are actually surprisingly mature at that age.
Originally Posted By UnclRuckus⏩
Well it depends on what you mean by 'equal'. If you mean equal as in the same, then no, women are women and you're a man. If you mean equal as in she is as much of a quality woman as you are a man and you compliment each other, then it's possible, still rare, but possible. I found one anyway... I married her.Never found a woman I'd consider my equal unfortunately, maybe if I did I'd change my perspective but I doubt I will.
02-14-2018, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted By twovalvekid⏩
Being pretty familiar with legal practice, I can tell you that 90% chance this excuse is real. This happens all the time.Date from last night flaked at the last minute. She's a lawyer, and I got the"have an emergency case I need to work on, really sorry, etc." line from her. Just responded with ok, let me know when youre free, and good luck tomorrow text. Going NC until I get a response. She seemed really interested, so could be a legit excuse, so cant go full balls deep on the attitude. Decided to take advantage of the sudden free night on my off gym day and got off early from work to go skiing.
02-14-2018, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted By BRBMakingMoney⏩
This has also been very accurate in my experience. I'm also in my early 30s, and doing better with the 25 and under girls than I ever have, and I'm currently a broke ass student. I couldn't imagine how easy it would be if I had a lot of money. I'm expecting my peak years to be 35-39 once I do have some cash to splash around.Men aged around ~35 (if they've taken care of themselves) are actually at their peak. I'm probably better looking now than I ever was, and I'm alot wealthier and wiser than I've ever been before, both attractive traits. 35 is pretty much a guys SMV peak I'd say. If not even older if he takes care of himself and becomes even more successful/higher status. I can honestly say that it is easier for me to get 18-23 year olds now than it is has ever been in the past. It gets easier every year as I get older.
Every year of my life has been better than the last in terms of a) earnings b) women, every single year since I was 18. It keeps getting better and better, so don't worry too much about getting older. I'm not looking forward to the first year of my life when I actually do worse than the year before, then I'll know I've peaked. Barring the unforeseen, I'm guessing that might happen somewhere around 40-45. But who knows.
Every year of my life has been better than the last in terms of a) earnings b) women, every single year since I was 18. It keeps getting better and better, so don't worry too much about getting older. I'm not looking forward to the first year of my life when I actually do worse than the year before, then I'll know I've peaked. Barring the unforeseen, I'm guessing that might happen somewhere around 40-45. But who knows.
02-14-2018, 09:27 AM
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been getting good matches, responding to opener, but not giving dat number or want to meet up? I think in general low conversion rates?
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02-14-2018, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted By BRBMakingMoney⏩
I usually only sleep with a girl once unless I'm gonna keep her as a FWB. Don't date someone unless I'd potentially LTR, and I wouldn't do that with your average teen.Why not? I can and do, even the immature ones. I definitely have less fun spending time with them than a more mature younger girl, but they can still be fun sexually and we can still be friends. I'll often see them less frequently than the one's I really click with though and do find myself less enamored of them.
Well it depends on what you mean by 'equal'. If you mean equal as in the same, then no, women are women and you're a man. If you mean equal as in she is as much of a quality woman as you are a man and you compliment each other, then it's possible, still rare, but possible. I found one anyway... I married her.
Well it depends on what you mean by 'equal'. If you mean equal as in the same, then no, women are women and you're a man. If you mean equal as in she is as much of a quality woman as you are a man and you compliment each other, then it's possible, still rare, but possible. I found one anyway... I married her.
Women are too much of a timesink imo. I always feel like I'm entertaining, it's exhausting. Haven't met a lot of women that are intellectually stimulating, so usually I feel like it's a waste of time and would rather go learn something/train or whatever. Don't really have any desire to plate several at a time.
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02-14-2018, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted By Scotty.⏩
Can confirm. Im a late bloomer, but can definitely tell the last year or two that things have definitely seemed "easier." Probably a combination of factors, but.This has also been very accurate in my experience. I'm also in my early 30s, and doing better with the 25 and under girls than I ever have, and I'm currently a broke ass student. I couldn't imagine how easy it would be if I had a lot of money. I'm expecting my peak years to be 35-39 once I do have some cash to splash around.
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02-14-2018, 03:33 PM
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Was in class today and just swiping a bit discretely while I waited for it to start, and some error on Tinder came up and logged me out. I clicked log back in, and put my phone away for class. Apparently, it put all my settings to default when it logged me back in, and set it to looking for 18-55 year old men.
Within the space of an hour, my little gold circle with a 10+ went to 99+, I had multiple super likes, 4 new IG followers, and a chitload of new likes on my IG photos... this must be what it feels like to be a female on Tinder...
Within the space of an hour, my little gold circle with a 10+ went to 99+, I had multiple super likes, 4 new IG followers, and a chitload of new likes on my IG photos... this must be what it feels like to be a female on Tinder...
02-14-2018, 05:42 PM
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02-14-2018, 05:45 PM
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02-14-2018, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted By Slyrz⏩
annnd thats the final straw with that pos appTinder rolling out a "ladies first" feature. Just like Bumble
lets be real all that left on tinder are the broken chicks or ugly ones at this point
02-15-2018, 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted By TheIronAsylum⏩
looks like us brahs have to look for another hooking-up-app soon. screw that bumble chit.annnd thats the final straw with that pos app
lets be real all that left on tinder are the broken chicks or ugly ones at this point
lets be real all that left on tinder are the broken chicks or ugly ones at this point
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02-15-2018, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted By Sternentreue⏩
Bumble has also begun to fizzle a little. Im thinking it's adding the purchase options to get seen, just like tinder. Which is dumb, because im starting to see most of the same people on Bumble that I do tinder.looks like us brahs have to look for another hooking-up-app soon. screw that bumble chit.
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02-15-2018, 05:49 AM
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02-15-2018, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted By TheWeeknd4Ever⏩
spade, what's your go to opener right now?




Might need Ruckus to give a whale sniff test on this. Last full body pic on ig is 3 years ago. Face is about the same.


Thought this 18yo was a done deal. # closed, texted her then she unmatched me lol. Think her friends prolly talked her out of it, or she got too scurrd. I don't think she'd give me her # if she was stringing me along.


She was actually serious about moving in.


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Can't believe that venmo thing still going strong, I saw one the other day too. What a disgrace.
Not really feeling any whale alarms going off there Spade, should be fine. And man, you killed me with my own line. Really gotta step my profile game up.
What do you guys think about pics doing MMA/fighting in the bio? Would it come across as too meatheady? Seems like something women might not be into, but I need some action pics.
Not really feeling any whale alarms going off there Spade, should be fine. And man, you killed me with my own line. Really gotta step my profile game up.
What do you guys think about pics doing MMA/fighting in the bio? Would it come across as too meatheady? Seems like something women might not be into, but I need some action pics.
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02-15-2018, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted By UnclRuckus⏩
Most women actually take their time to analyze pics to decide if a guy looks like their 'type' (as opposed to guys who look at pics only to decide if a girl is hot). Different girls obviously have a pretty huge range of types of guys they are into.What do you guys think about pics doing MMA/fighting in the bio? Would it come across as too meatheady? Seems like something women might not be into, but I need some action pics.
Basically any picture you put up will probably appeal to some and turn off others. The more unique things a picture shows about you, the greater this effect will be. However, the more unique/interesting it is also has the effect of making girls it appeals to more likely to swipe because it reinforces more that you might be their type.
MMA pics would be a prime example of this. Girls who are into it would be very likely to swipe right if you had those pics. There is however a pretty large subset of girls who hate MMA and that would make you an auto-left swipe. Overall, I think it would probably earn you net negative swipes (depending on your market though), but the girls who do swipe right on you would be much more into you.
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God damn dude, WHERE DO YOU FIND THAT GIF. I type in rough kiss and I canβt find it.
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I know movie dates are considered a classic but has anyone been successful towards kiss/2nd date/smash at the end of the date or should I follow up with something else? Shes a cute foreign >21 yr old
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Originally Posted By TheWeeknd4Ever⏩
Bumble for me.God damn dude, WHERE DO YOU FIND THAT GIF. I type in rough kiss and I canβt find it.
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02-15-2018, 11:41 AM
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So if I message a girl something stupid like just the word "Dope"while I was drunk and she doesn't respond, would I be able to redeem myself somehow?
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02-15-2018, 11:52 AM
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Getting decent number of matches but the conversation either dies after a few messages or it leads nowhere.. How do you all steer the convo to a meet up quickly?
I feel like being super forward/sexual doesn't fit my image or the vibe I give off from my profile/pics.. Having said that, I've never actually tried being forward from the get go..
I feel like being super forward/sexual doesn't fit my image or the vibe I give off from my profile/pics.. Having said that, I've never actually tried being forward from the get go..
02-15-2018, 12:10 PM
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OG Tinder brah here. Been noticing it for a while, tinder is only getting worse. Back in the day you could swipe all you wanted, girls would actually match, girls would actually respond, and girls would actually meet. Now, barely any matches, even less responses to messages, and, obviously, less meet-ups. Bumble is actually light-years better in terms of the matches I get, but still, most of the time nothing goes anywhere.
I also match with, no joke, almost no-one less than ~20 miles from where I live (Annapolis--never Tinder here). I'll get the odd match who lives in Annapolis once in a GREAT while.
Also, a word of advice... If you don't say the exact things she wants to here it's NEXT for you. Being super sexual with a girl not into it is death, however, being too "good" with a girl who actually wants a hookup is just as bad. You'll never know which she is though.
Tinder is at the veryleast90% attention hoes and bullsheeters (flakes). Don't get me wrong, I still use it and still have "luck" once in a while, so it's worth using, but it's also a lot of work. Enough work to the point where I don't even feel like Tindering unless I'm super bored.
Good luck bros.
I also match with, no joke, almost no-one less than ~20 miles from where I live (Annapolis--never Tinder here). I'll get the odd match who lives in Annapolis once in a GREAT while.
Also, a word of advice... If you don't say the exact things she wants to here it's NEXT for you. Being super sexual with a girl not into it is death, however, being too "good" with a girl who actually wants a hookup is just as bad. You'll never know which she is though.
Tinder is at the veryleast90% attention hoes and bullsheeters (flakes). Don't get me wrong, I still use it and still have "luck" once in a while, so it's worth using, but it's also a lot of work. Enough work to the point where I don't even feel like Tindering unless I'm super bored.
Good luck bros.
02-15-2018, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted By HolaMamacita⏩
Agreed, a large majority of girls on tinder 3 years ago were down to meet up. While I still get a lot of matches, a lot of my convo's dont go past 4 or 5 messages as we just both kinda lose interest (I'll be honest though, I also stop responding to girls occasionally just because its like the same old sh*t. Talk and get her snap or number, act like you care until you meet up, meet up and f***, then never contact again).Been noticing it for a while, tinder is only getting worse.
It has a lot to do with what kind of girl she is and what opening you choose to use like you said. A couple years ago I used to use tinder to actually meet girls but nowadays its just something to entertain my boredom. Meanwhile, I'm actually talking to girls that I meet at bars, coffee shops, and parties. Meeting girls irl is so much more fulfilling than Tinder
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