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02-15-2018, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted By Fapadrol⏩
Im kind of with you on that point. Id say its more knowing im big in comparison to others people think are big than thinking im big and having a complex because i just feel normal. I dont feel small because i know im not but i dont think ill ever truly be satisfied with my physique. Ill be impressed with someone i see at the gym and think theyre huge until i see them in a mirror next to me and realize were about the same size and then it sinks in how far ive actually come but that feeling is always fleeting. Not sure if that makes sense but yeah.Coming from someone just like you (same height as you and natty; difference is I've been at this for 13 years.)
Here's my take on the subject. I'm a little different. I've neverfeltbig in my life, but I'veaccepted I am, from the people around me telling me I am; does that make sense?
Follow me on this, cause writing it out is confusing as ****.
I can and often look at someone, who to somebody else looks big, yet in my eyes they are smaller than me. I guess I have typical body dismorphia; but it doesn't bother me srs. In some ways, I think it keeps me humble and grounds me. I would srsly hateknowing I'm big, but accepting it isn't the same. We all know people in a guy, that think they are hot ****. I can pretty much promise myself I will never be like that.
Here's my take on the subject. I'm a little different. I've neverfeltbig in my life, but I'veaccepted I am, from the people around me telling me I am; does that make sense?
Follow me on this, cause writing it out is confusing as ****.
I can and often look at someone, who to somebody else looks big, yet in my eyes they are smaller than me. I guess I have typical body dismorphia; but it doesn't bother me srs. In some ways, I think it keeps me humble and grounds me. I would srsly hateknowing I'm big, but accepting it isn't the same. We all know people in a guy, that think they are hot ****. I can pretty much promise myself I will never be like that.
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
most of them would switch BF% with you in a heartbeat.I just feel small as hell because so many guys are like 30% bf these days. Unless I'm 220 I feel dyel too.
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02-15-2018, 06:39 PM
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6'0, 200+ lbs, Still feel small.
Everything is growing per measurement, but still feel small, But also only been lifting seriously a few years now so I know it doesn't happen overnight. Biggest thing is I want bigger arms as that what i feel is the piece of me that looks the smallest as my chest, back, thighs, lats are all growing in nick and thick, Arms are lagging, but have grown so far from this bulk I've ended. Cutting now to see how I look. But I feel it..
Everything is growing per measurement, but still feel small, But also only been lifting seriously a few years now so I know it doesn't happen overnight. Biggest thing is I want bigger arms as that what i feel is the piece of me that looks the smallest as my chest, back, thighs, lats are all growing in nick and thick, Arms are lagging, but have grown so far from this bulk I've ended. Cutting now to see how I look. But I feel it..
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02-15-2018, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted By deadhead6391⏩
200lb at 5'8" at 15% bodyfat is an FFMI of 25.90 which is not natty.Thats because you dont have enough mass. Im natty and im 200 at 5'8 and fill out an xl right now, i dwarf most people irl and outlift most everyone i see. I feel great. Even when i was smaller and lean i didnt feel small, people commented on my physique daily.
You look 10% in your avi too, so definitely not natty if you weigh that much
02-15-2018, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted By Maxlol200⏩
Im natty. Whether you think i am or not doesnt matter. Avi i was 165 and not at my peak. Ive been about 10 lbs heavier at similar bodyfat. Ive got 12 inch ankles and a broad frame, im going to weigh more than someone else at my height with a small frame no matter what.200lb at 5'8" at 15% bodyfat is an FFMI of 25.90 which is not natty.
You look 10% in your avi too, so definitely not natty if you weigh that much
You look 10% in your avi too, so definitely not natty if you weigh that much
02-15-2018, 06:45 PM
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I never shot a needle in my ass and I'm always one of the biggest guys in the gym.
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Originally Posted By deadhead6391⏩
When I finish my cut in April we can show natural cut vs a non-natural cut so they can quit saying you're not natural brah. Ya I'm non-natty have no colon and I'm over 30 blow me.Im natty. Whether you think i am or not doesnt matter. Avi i was 165 and not at my peak. Ive been about 10 lbs heavier at similar bodyfat. Ive got 12 inch ankles and a broad frame, im going to weigh more than someone else at my height with a small frame no matter what.
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02-15-2018, 07:31 PM
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I feel big at the gym 6'0 225 15% but when I go out on a saturday night I feel like theres plenty of regular people who make me look DYEL.
02-15-2018, 07:34 PM
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I do, quite often...only when I have a pump though
normal weight use to be 220lbs...nowadays Im right around 187-193lbs, 5'10

normal weight use to be 220lbs...nowadays Im right around 187-193lbs, 5'10
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02-15-2018, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted By BobLoblawBrah⏩
Lol than you must be more than 15% at 225 because im your height and weight exactly at 12ish percent bf and only really come across guys more jacked than me at the gym.....or the few times ive been around a bunch of college or professional athletes.I feel big at the gym 6'0 225 15% but when I go out on a saturday night I feel like theres plenty of regular people who make me look DYEL.
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02-15-2018, 08:10 PM
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Here are the two scenarios:
1.) Your natty, lift at a modest gym with other natty "health centric" folk. You will feel big simply because others are not.
2.) Your natty at a gym where their is Dat Dere involved.... you will look like a little twink. SRS I'm 6ft 2in 219lbs....... its nothing next to a guys on gear.
In the end, if your lifting for health, stay natty... its the best way. If your goal is "look or feel big".... then dont waste your time and get on dat dere. SRS Its night and day when you hold two 190lb guys of the same height, one natty the other using... the quality, volumizaiton, and size is blatant.
1.) Your natty, lift at a modest gym with other natty "health centric" folk. You will feel big simply because others are not.
2.) Your natty at a gym where their is Dat Dere involved.... you will look like a little twink. SRS I'm 6ft 2in 219lbs....... its nothing next to a guys on gear.
In the end, if your lifting for health, stay natty... its the best way. If your goal is "look or feel big".... then dont waste your time and get on dat dere. SRS Its night and day when you hold two 190lb guys of the same height, one natty the other using... the quality, volumizaiton, and size is blatant.
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02-15-2018, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted By shoelaces⏩
Nah. I’m 6’0 222 and still feel and look small at timesI doubt you are 6'1" 200lbs+ lean. That is pretty big.
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Originally Posted By TheBuyOut⏩
Bruh. You are on a bodybuilding website. Gonsomewhere else *******Son, do you even jiujitsu muay thai wrestle or box? You need this in your life son, gets your mind away from all that insecure bodybuilding bigorexia garbage.
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02-15-2018, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted By yungballin14⏩
It's just in your head, dude. Being 6' and weighing 222 is big. I'm 6'3" and got up to almost 280 a few years ago and felt I should get bigger. I look the best in the 220-230 range.Nah. I’m 6’0 222 and still feel and look small at times
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Originally Posted By deadhead6391⏩
Because you are at ****ing awesome condition...people will mire and respect regardless of your weightThats because you dont have enough mass. Im natty and im 200 at 5'8 and fill out an xl right now, i dwarf most people irl and outlift most everyone i see. I feel great. Even when i was smaller and lean i didnt feel small, people commented on my physique daily.
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02-15-2018, 08:54 PM
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Yeah but I am realizing I have to attribute some of it to dismorphia.
Of course it's important to train everything, but I find shoulders make all the difference when leaning out. Without those I'd probably never cut down.
Of course it's important to train everything, but I find shoulders make all the difference when leaning out. Without those I'd probably never cut down.
02-15-2018, 08:56 PM
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Just gonna leave this here.

And Marky Mark is a pretty jacked guy. But 5'8" manlets gonna manlet.
Even when Shaq was at his fattest, supposedly 32% body fat and 324 lb, he had 220 lb of pure lean mass.
Mark Wahlberg is 5'8" 220 lb, about 15% bodyfat. On OJ, he still gets mogged by about 13 lb of pure muscle from Shaq. And Shaq has that natty fatty bloat to boot. In a fight, Shaq would literally toss him around like a ragdoll. Shaq's FFMI is like 21 or something. He doesn't really watch his diet, doesn't lift regularly and he probably isn't even on anything. This is the nature of genetics. This is the world we live in. Note how weak sauce the Rock looks in the fuking picture by comparison. That's the fuking Rock dude...Natty or not, you will never be big if you are a manlet.

And Marky Mark is a pretty jacked guy. But 5'8" manlets gonna manlet.
Even when Shaq was at his fattest, supposedly 32% body fat and 324 lb, he had 220 lb of pure lean mass.
Mark Wahlberg is 5'8" 220 lb, about 15% bodyfat. On OJ, he still gets mogged by about 13 lb of pure muscle from Shaq. And Shaq has that natty fatty bloat to boot. In a fight, Shaq would literally toss him around like a ragdoll. Shaq's FFMI is like 21 or something. He doesn't really watch his diet, doesn't lift regularly and he probably isn't even on anything. This is the nature of genetics. This is the world we live in. Note how weak sauce the Rock looks in the fuking picture by comparison. That's the fuking Rock dude...Natty or not, you will never be big if you are a manlet.
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Most people underestimate their potential in the 20's, even 30's. You can be much bigger than the juicehead in the gym with proper diet, lifting, and rest.
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havent felt small my entire life
maybe in the brief period where you went from under 18's rugby to open mens the year after, dem Maori's mane
maybe in the brief period where you went from under 18's rugby to open mens the year after, dem Maori's mane
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Only if I go to gyms full of commoners and old people which I do. I went to a 'strength' gym once and got too intimidated by the fat dudes squatting 200kg and deadlifting huge amounts. Now I go to a girly gym so I feel big squatting 110kg while old men swing Dumbbells trying to curl.
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Originally Posted By BobLoblawBrah⏩
one of my best buds is 6 foot, 225 at around 12-15% I go out with him to crowded bars full of young, (18-27 year olds) people 3 or 4 nights a week, obviously we see people taller than him fairly regularly, but it is extremely rare that I see anyone looking as big and muscular as himI feel big at the gym 6'0 225 15% but when I go out on a saturday night I feel like theres plenty of regular people who make me look DYEL.
so idk what's wrong with you
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02-15-2018, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted By crackersmaker⏩
I find where I live this is the case. I am 6ft1--probably will dip as I age and sitting @ work fuks my back--and around 220lb 15%. There are plenty of males taller than me by 1-3 inches but they weigh considerably less. A couple of inches is no big deal if you are built properly. I still think I look too thin in clothes but that could be bigorexia talking.one of my best buds is 6 foot, 225 at around 12-15% I go out with him to crowded bars full of young, (18-27 year olds) people 3 or 4 nights a week, obviously we see people taller than him fairly regularly, but it is extremely rare that I see anyone looking as big and muscular as him
so idk what's wrong with you
so idk what's wrong with you

OP 200lb is no big deal for your height, maybe try change your pattern/routine. It's no surprise the biggest I got was when I was the strongest at around 240lb+ - but I was around 20% bf. I got the most attention then, that's for sure but fuk keeping up that size for my frame. 15% is GOAT cruise compromise, but I respect those who can stay mega lean. If I had a choice for height It would be 6ft4-5 while keeping this size ratio - that would be god mode.
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