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Thread: Misc Firearms crew LXX: Hold my beer a SEC. Georgia blew a 20-7 lead

post 1545139651 02-28-2018, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted By Wakaaa⏩
Anyone here carry a 19 with a 17 mag?

Thinking of buying more 17 mags than 19 since I plan on getting a 17.
The two back up mags I carried were 17rnd PMags. Love them.
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Strong WTF . . .

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...process-second

President Trump on Wednesday voiced support for confiscating guns from certain dangerous individuals, even if it violates due process rights.

“I like taking the guns early like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida ... to go to court would have taken a long time,” Trump said at a meeting with lawmakers on school safety and gun violence.

“Take the guns first, go through due process second,” Trump said.

Trump was responding to comments from Vice President Pence that families and local law enforcement should have more tools to report potentially dangerous individuals with weapons.

“Allow due process so no one’s rights are trampled, but the ability to go to court, obtain an order and then collect not only the firearms but any weapons,” Pence said.

"Or, Mike, take the firearms first, and then go to court," Trump responded.
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“Take the guns first, go through due process second,” Trump said.
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Trump is a potato, we all knew that when we voted for him. Hopefully Pence and Jr. will straighten him out.
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Originally Posted By CdtCox⏩
“Take the guns first, go through due process second,” Trump said.
Our forefathers are trying to commit suicide from the other side of life right now. Like. More dead than they already are.
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We need more SCOTUS and federal judicial appointees from Trump . . . to save us from Trump.
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post 1545143591 02-28-2018, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted By residesinAZ⏩
Trump is a potato, we all knew that when we voted for him. Hopefully Pence and Jr. will straighten him out.
Lets be real...

We need a new breed of politician less worried with their political base, and more concerned with actual logical thinking, and productive, maybe even ground breaking ideas.
Are you not entertained?

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post 1545144401 02-28-2018, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted By omnip0tent⏩
Lets be real...

We need a new breed of politician less worried with their political base, and more concerned with actual logical thinking, and productive, maybe even ground breaking ideas.
Autism is growing. We'll be there eventually.
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Originally Posted By taf1968⏩
Strong WTF . . .

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...process-second

President Trump on Wednesday voiced support for confiscating guns from certain dangerous individuals, even if it violates due process rights.

“I like taking the guns early like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida ... to go to court would have taken a long time,” Trump said at a meeting with lawmakers on school safety and gun violence.

“Take the guns first, go through due process second,” Trump said.

Trump was responding to comments from Vice President Pence that families and local law enforcement should have more tools to report potentially dangerous individuals with weapons.

“Allow due process so no one’s rights are trampled, but the ability to go to court, obtain an order and then collect not only the firearms but any weapons,” Pence said.

"Or, Mike, take the firearms first, and then go to court," Trump responded.
this is exactly what we have here in CA. it's called a "gun violence restraining order"

essentially family can report you because they're worried.
police come, take your guns,
then its up to you to go to court and prove your innocence
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Originally Posted By taf1968⏩
We need more SCOTUS and federal judicial appointees from Trump . . . to save us from Trump.
That may be the most horrifyingly accurate statement right now...
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post 1545147411 02-28-2018, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted By tunejunkie⏩
this is exactly what we have here in CA. it's called a "gun violence restraining order"

essentially family can report you because they're worried.
police come, take your guns,
then its up to you to go to court and prove your innocence
To be honest I'm okay with this. Maybe make that person have to have a date in court and prove or provide insight into their allegation so not just anyone can say "Herp derp take his guns". But parents, loved ones, and friends should be able to call out people who are not Emotionally or Mentally stable (even if its temporary).

I know its gonna be unpopular amongst the 2A die hard community. But something needs to be done to take guns away from people who have "fallen thru the cracks" of our system.
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post 1545147701 02-28-2018, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted By omnip0tent⏩
To be honest I'm okay with this. Maybe make that person have to have a date in court and prove or provide insight into their allegation so not just anyone can say "Herp derp take his guns". But parents, loved ones, and friends should be able to call out people who are not Emotionally or Mentally stable (even if its temporary).

I know its gonna be unpopular amongst the 2A die hard community. But something needs to be done to take guns away from people who have "fallen thru the cracks" of our system.
I am okay from the opposite position...

If reported by friends or family the cops can then seize guns for a period of up to 30 days, but must return those guns at the end of that period if a trial by jury can not prove the defendant incapable of owning said guns.

This isn't the same as what happens.

Say you are dating this chick and she gets pissed off at you. "Reports you to the police that she thinks you are a danger" boom guns confiscated and now the burden is on you to prove you are "Not a threat"
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Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
I am okay from the opposite position...

If reported by friends or family the cops can then seize guns for a period of up to 30 days, but must return those guns at the end of that period if a trial by jury can not prove the defendant incapable of owning said guns.
You sold me on that one.

Also to be fair I know a buddys dad had like 50k+ in guns taken away cuz he had some dispute with a cop who lives in his neighborhood. Needless to say all the guns did not come back in Mint condition :/
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Originally Posted By omnip0tent⏩
To be honest I'm okay with this. Maybe make that person have to have a date in court and prove or provide insight into their allegation so not just anyone can say "Herp derp take his guns". But parents, loved ones, and friends should be able to call out people who are not Emotionally or Mentally stable (even if its temporary).

I know its gonna be unpopular amongst the 2A die hard community. But something needs to be done to take guns away from people who have "fallen thru the cracks" of our system.
Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
I am okay from the opposite position...

If reported by friends or family the cops can then seize guns for a period of up to 30 days, but must return those guns at the end of that period if a trial by jury can not prove the defendant incapable of owning said guns.
Inb4 the Farles.

WTF has happened to MFC? GTFO with this ****.
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Originally Posted By CaptJeef⏩
Inb4 the Farles.

WTF has happened to MFC? GTFO with this ****.
I know guns aren't the problem. Society is. But we cant just fix society overnight.
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post 1545148341 02-28-2018, 03:21 PM
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Giant Sasquatch guy. On the Arlos you don’t want them positioned where they will be going off erroneously all the time. Play around with positioning. You can set schedules, or use the geo fencing. I have not yet. Ours are armed at night and whenever we are gone. I do need to set geofencing on my wife’s phone so she doesn’t forget to arm it when she leaves. It’s also nice when at home and expecting a delivery. I love my Arlo and they already caught some piece of $hit looking for cars to get into and lots of action vids of my dog hunting in the yard when my wife forgets to disarm it in the morning before letting him out.
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Originally Posted By CaptJeef⏩
Inb4 the Farles.

WTF has happened to MFC? GTFO with this ****.
Not sure what you are referring too. I get Omni's post.

Almost EVERYONE agrees that there are mentally incompetent people that should not be allowed to own guns (or run free for that matter)
The issue is how those people are determined.
Who the burden of proof is ON.
What constitutes "incapable".

The reason gun owners can't give up the mental card is because liberals will use it to include various conditions that sound good in theory, but are really lies. (Depression, anti-social behaviors, any form of ptsd, ect)
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i may have summerized that a bit too vaguely. I think the person reporting you needs some kind of proof, but what they consider "proof" i have no idea. might be very little or subjective, or might need to be very concrete, i'm not sure.

if any other CA bros know more, feel free to chime in
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depressed people dont deserve the right to defend themselves obvi. not srs.
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Originally Posted By tunejunkie⏩
i may have summerized that a bit too vaguely. I think the person reporting you needs some kind of proof, but what they consider "proof" i have no idea. might be very little or subjective, or might need to be very concrete, i'm not sure.

if any other CA bros know more, feel free to chime in
My dad lost his gun rights (In Idaho) because my mother attacked him in a physical altercation and managed to convince a judge a "protection order" was needed.

There are no requirements only feels.

Keep in mind this is Idaho. Took 3 years before the protection order was lifted even after he was found not guilty for "domestic violence in front of children"
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Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
Say you are dating this chick and she gets pissed off at you. "Reports you to the police that she thinks you are a danger" boom guns confiscated and now the burden is on you to prove you are "Not a threat"
Don't date crazy is basically the only advice that can work for this.... It happens. This one hits home for a lot of cops too. Cop is dating someone who is crazy. She reports him. Cops come and have to take his guns. He now cannot be employed as a police officer. There are a few exceptions, but after his guns are taken, which is mandatory, he's pretty screwed.
Originally Posted By tunejunkie⏩
i may have summerized that a bit too vaguely. I think the person reporting you needs some kind of proof, but what they consider "proof" i have no idea. might be very little or subjective, or might need to be very concrete, i'm not sure.

if any other CA bros know more, feel free to chime in
Domestic violence is the big one. A Domestic violence report saying someone was pushed/touched in a violent way could be enough to get someone's gun taken away.

As far as the gun violence restraining order, I believe you need to have reason to believe the "suspect" is going to commit a crime with the guns. This reasonableness needs to be judged by a police officer and then a judge who would ultimately give permission for the gun to be taken. For the Domestic Violence situation, no judge needs to be contacted right away like that.
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Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
My dad lost his gun rights (In Idaho) because my mother attacked him in a physical altercation and managed to convince a judge a "protection order" was needed.

There are no requirements only feels.

Keep in mind this is Idaho. Took 3 years before the protection order was lifted even after he was found not guilty for "domestic violence in front of children"
Not much different than how much damage a lying woman can do crying rape. I know someone who did 5 years in jail over a supposed molestation of a 14 year old. I've known him my entire life and I justknewthere was no god damn way this guy did it. AFTER serving his entire time she admitted to her family she made it up. He's been out for like 6 years now. Will never be able to hunt again, buy or own firearms, etc...
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Originally Posted By BlueSasquatch⏩
Installed three ARLO cameras this weekend, very easy to do, what do you guys use for a schedule on them? Leave them running 24/7 or deactivate them during certain times of day when you're home or what? No good vantage point of the backdoor from the outside, so placed it inside and our dogs set it off everytime they get some water. Also need to take down a bird nest, fly by and trigger them.
Originally Posted By Plateauplower⏩
Giant Sasquatch guy. On the Arlos you don’t want them positioned where they will be going off erroneously all the time. Play around with positioning. You can set schedules, or use the geo fencing. I have not yet. Ours are armed at night and whenever we are gone. I do need to set geofencing on my wife’s phone so she doesn’t forget to arm it when she leaves. It’s also nice when at home and expecting a delivery. I love my Arlo and they already caught some piece of $hit looking for cars to get into and lots of action vids of my dog hunting in the yard when my wife forgets to disarm it in the morning before letting him out.
I created a mode called Outdoor Motion Only, which obviously has all outdoor cams set for motion detection and recording. I have the problematic cameras (bird/street/vehicle activity) set to low sensitivity but they also record when the main cameras get triggered. Lots of cross-triggering for multiple angles, and different recording lengths to save battery. With a big dog and a lively cat inside, I usually keep the inside ones off for motion detection where the animals go, and record on the inside cameras where they don't go.

I pretty much use this mode only, either when we leave the house, or go to bed at night. I've tried using a schedule but since you can only set one mode at a time, you have to remember to change the mode, so you might as well just set up one master mode.
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Originally Posted By AgRyan⏩
Don't date crazy is basically the only advice that can work for this.... It happens.
Sometimes easier said than done. All girls are varying levels of crazy. Just depends on how well they can hide it early on.
This one hits home for a lot of cops too. Cop is dating someone who is crazy. She reports him. Cops come and have to take his guns. He now cannot be employed as a police officer. There are a few exceptions, but after his guns are taken, which is mandatory, he's pretty screwed.
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Originally Posted By AgRyan⏩
Don't date crazy is basically the only advice that can work for this.... It happens. This one hits home for a lot of cops too. Cop is dating someone who is crazy. She reports him. Cops come and have to take his guns. He now cannot be employed as a police officer. There are a few exceptions, but after his guns are taken, which is mandatory, he's pretty screwed.



Domestic violence is the big one. A Domestic violence report saying someone was pushed/touched in a violent way could be enough to get someone's gun taken away.

As far as the gun violence restraining order, I believe you need to have reason to believe the "suspect" is going to commit a crime with the guns. This reasonableness needs to be judged by a police officer and then a judge who would ultimately give permission for the gun to be taken. For the Domestic Violence situation, no judge needs to be contacted right away like that.
Most people are crazy... It is just what causes the crazy to surface and how it does.

Beware of perma "victims"
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wat?
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Wat?????????
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