18 hours is a good limit. However it all varies, especially if we're both busy and barely checking back on our msg. For instance, I match a 7+/10 and pitch a clever dtf line and no response. a week later she hits me back and tells me she's interested. responded a day later and another week of waiting until she says she wants to meet up. I think the key to this is not to be persistent as much, otherwise most guys shoot their foot off by doubling or triple texting immediately which shows how needy you are, resulting a turn off to them. but again, it all varies on who you match with. I'm pretty patient so I let it naturally flow.

any good lines to open with on a MILF/GILF in her 50s on bumble besides the wine line, or should I proceed with drink date scheme?

Got cancelled on by a date (illness). Should I try to reschedule or wait for her to initiate again?

I need to remember this. Give it a day then reply.

Wait for her to initiate the resched.

This. Something along the lines of hoping she feels better, and let you know when would be good. And leave it at that.

This app is glitched. I decided to pay for a month of gold to see the 10+ swipes I cant find. Saw the profiles and figured out where some where. Went to those locations, swiped, saw a couple of the profiles in my queue, swiped right and no match. I knew this thing wasn't registering all my matches and like I said before, it frequently shows me the same profiles over again. Its messed up.

As far as places to swipe. St Johns Newfoundland is a gold mine for me. Get a ton of matches there. Could be because I'm black, there are some areas where you seem to get better response based on on your race and for sure your nationality. Some places I spoof and if they find I am American I get a lot of attention. I'm not a super physically attractive dude either so a lot of people should be able to clean house in St John's.

Also I find that several parts of Australia get me good returns too. Again I am no stunner. I suggest people who travel a lot, to get plus and spoof some areas to gauge interest. Its pretty interesting how your value can change in different parts of the world or even cities. Like where I am from I don't do well with matches, also don't seem to do well in most southern states. New York, I get nothing at all and I know people say its easy mode. Not for me, cannot get a match there to save my life. Salt Lake City though, girls are matching me like crazy, well not like 100 matches in a week but yea, I get regular matches there which is rare.

Yea I am not sure how its so hard but maybe you are going for really high level attractiveness girls. I am not on a high level and generally I go for women in my range and although any woman has way more value than a guy in her range on an app like this (on a purely physical scale, a 4 guy would have to work hard to regularly hook up with 3-6's, a 4 woman can fairly easy find guys who are 6+ to bone them/hookup) a joe blow can still get dates. If you are in great shape it shouldn't be that hard to get SOME decent looking girls to go on a date on here.


i find its best to escalate things to having a date sooner than later. The more you wait to get the date set up the more likely things will flop.

Triple post but LOL at Spades Milf story. Like I said before, people who think women in their mid 30's-mid 40's who are in shape can't still get ass are nuts. I have people look at me like I am crazy for thinking guys can find these women attractive. Please. An in shape attractive MILF can get all the high quality dink she wants easily. Again she may not have an easy time finding a serious boy friend, but if she just wants to get her rocks off she has a huge pool to choose from. Women in general who want dink can get it exceptionally easy thanks to tinder. IT used to be they had to go out, and at least get approached and put on some public display of resistance and what not as to not seem too slutty. Now they just get an app, can meet some total stranger, have him come beat the breaks off her, and good to sleep happy.

Its so easy. Even an reasonable ugly, or fat but cute girl can EASILY get a guy to pleasure her. The girls have less hang ups because no one knows, its all done on app. The guys are so desperate for ass and no one knows so good looking guy might decide to go several notches down just so he can get off. This also totally shafts the average and below average guys as they have far less talent available to them when it comes to strictly hookups. Why would most chicks waste their time boning some fat scrub when if for strictly physical purposes, she can get a bottom tier Chad?

You don't get it brah. Women don't value casual sex like we do cause it's so easy to get for them, just like you say. They want COMMITMENT, and they use the promise of sex to get it. We men use the promise of commitment to get sex.

No younger man in his right mind will give commitment to a 40 yo woman.

Hey brahs. Used to post a lot back in the 2014/15 Tinder threads but haven't really misced in a while. What do you guys do when you're going out with the same multiple girls on a pretty regular basis? I currently have feels for all four of mine and idk what to do. I fuked up last night and thought one of them was with another guy but I guess she wasn't and so thankfully I'm only down to three girls. It's hard not to get feels for them, and they for you. Deep down I know they want me to be their bf but I can't so I just date around. It's tough for me to easily break things off too.

Edit: Interestingly enough, all but one of these girls are from Bumble lol. I feel like messaging and then going out with Bumble matches is way more likely than Tinder.

I was not talking about commitment I Was talking about sex. And yes there are women out there who are mostly seeking casual sex. Not the majority but there are some who just want to ride the **** carousel and this is the most glorious time in recent history for them to do so. I am just saying they have it ridiculously easy in that regard and still I see dudes denying this all the time. They think its way more even than it is when it comes to the sexes and getting casual sex. Especially when it comes to milfs.

Super weird.

I changed my first pic from "player" to "boyfriend material" type and I've gottenwaymore matches - and hotter ones, too.

Suggestion for brahs who want to shake things up: if we can divide male mating archetypes into alpha-player/sensitive-bf-material, then change your branding, flop to the other side and see what happens.

^^^ that's why my bio is gold. It leans towards the flirty player side, but what girl doesn't want to kiss her bf while dancing??? So it appeals to both.

Also the weird part about the milf story (to me) was the amount of attention she was getting from these guys insinuating they want more than sex. She's really cougar status. From a distance her body/hair/face shape says "hot woman", and as you get closer you see the age/imperfections which brings her down to a 6.5/imo. Feel bad not giving her a 7 because she's got a sexy look even with the botox, or whatever she does to straighten her face.

She showed me a snap of a guy that asked what shes doing today, and she said seeing a friend (which was me)....and he replied "are you getting laid?" She told me about guys trying to get her to be exclusive by saying they'll delete their bumble accounts and only see her. These are guys on my looks level.

So its either Im giving these guys too much credit, or I'm not giving her enough credit, or there's just a small subset of 30yo attractive guys really into cougars they would get into a relationship with one. Could also be theyre trying nice guy game and just wanna smash. Dunno but she definitely doesn't want a relationship, as she just got out of a long term marriage, what she wants is 4-5 guys to rotate.

Doesn't surprise me. There are a lot of women who married early and are now divorced but never got to have the sex life they wanted. Tinder now gives them a chance. I think its very hard for those women to find a stable relationship off of tinder but getting quality dink? Nah. I know for a fact some of the bigger/uglier/less desirable women can get dink but run into a problem of getting quality dink as the sex is often bad. They try and weed out guys who will put some kind of effort in as a lot of guys are just desperate to get off, show up, put zero effort, just try and bust and be done.

if thats the case it might be helpful to post some screenshots of convos with girls who are around ur league or above as it will be a better learning opportunity for the rest of us in this threadas this is the strategy many others will need to take when matching with girls we'd even want to fuk (minimum 6?), assuming most of us r around 6-7ish

ya thats why i was asking BRBMM if he had additional data. i think it has at least partially to do with societal perceptions versus any type of objective attractiveness (or should i say, there is a certain level of subjectivity in physical attractiveness). I went to a couple of countries where i think i was getting a lot of looks (relatively speaking) from attractive girls, and later come to find out that bollywood is popular in those countries. so we're the people these girls watch in action movies, instead of fuking big bang theory like it is here. would be cool to see how that type of influence aligns with tinder matches on a global scale with hundreds of thousands of data points, for you know... scientific purposes (srs and not srs at same time)

I play the numbers tho because I can burn through matches. Ill tone it down for 7+/10's (usually) like I did with the blonde last week. Same strategy but instead of sexual direct more flirty.

This girl below is my type. Id breed her. Restarted convo by calling her name. Ill let her sit for a few days than ask her out and we will see how it goes...

I've been lurking on this thread for a while now and recently I have made my own Tinder profile along with Bumble and Happn. Although I haven't updated my bio on Happn I have a few matches that I am yet to respond to, does anyone have any experience with the app or should I just treat it the same as Tinder?

Also I guess I would be up for having my pictures reviewed as I think some of them may not be useful

General picture tips I think work well.

1. Use picture that fit the theme you are going for. IF you are acting like a normal guy use normal pics if you are just trying to come across as some booty call king use more sexually aggressive pictures.

2. Use pictures of you doing stuff. This is pretty important IMO. If you can get an action pic, even better but at least be somewhere or doing something and not in your bathroom.

3. Pictures with other people. Look like you have some kind of social life.

The best picture I have, that had single handedly increased my matches is one I got when I was the best man for a friends wedding. Someone got a pic of me giving the speech so I am on a mic, in front of a bunch of people, wearing a suit, speaking. That one picture has done wonders for my profile. I'm not rich, don't have some fancy speaking job, but I look in command as ***** in that one picture lol.

this person texted hi 2 weeks later after cancelling our meet for being "sick". i never responded back after she said she was sick to reschedule. strong dont play that game. strong text 2 weeks later.

So not even a "let me know when youre free" type text? Just a flat out "I'm sick have to cancel" and no response?

but you could get laid breh, she wants the d now

If there is one thing I learned the most about ITT is to not be a cocky chad, regardless of how good you look or are. hit her up and go to town on her. after all, isn't what this forum is about?

original date was for a tuesday. turns out the time was no good. moved to sunday. set reservations. 12 hours later i wake to a text saying im sick and to reschedule. mini paragraph. im just in smh mode and dont even bother.srs. i was just gonna ignore her forever. its been 3 days since the re text hi. but ill text back "hi" and see what happens.

I've got matches on the back burner, it's not that i'm not into them, it's that they didn't build enough rapport to be at the top of my list. The fact she swiped right and arranged a date means she finds you attractive, but chemistry/ connection is missing or maybe she just wanted a break from dudes tryna dik her and now she's ready. Tinder is overwhelming tbh.

Lots of people will tell you to wait between messages and sometimes that's a good idea, but for these types of things I like to respond right away. Pretty often it's something else that's fallen through or they're feeling bad or something and they wanna get fuked RIGHT NOW to make themselves feel better.

The next day or even a few hours later she could be feeling differently. Better to strike when the iron is hot nomsayin

Word. Will do that next time. I usually just send something along the lines of "well let me know what works for you" and don't respond until i get a "positive" answer. Meaning, xxx works for me.

Any good response for this girl? She's probably one of the hottest chicks I've spoken with on this app