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Thread: Mind obliterated at this bench arch

post 1546392881 03-14-2018, 07:57 AM
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ITT: weak guys cope-ing
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Originally Posted By sammywatkins⏩
That's not close grip
Not surprising he goes to MIT. He looks small as fuk and is cheating with physics to complete a lift rather than testing his true strength lol
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
lol everyone here is getting too pissed off to even discuss the issue and I am just trying to talk about it.
There is no issue. You're the one thinking there is. The rules are fine as is and he breaks none of them.
Originally Posted By sammywatkins⏩
That's not close grip
Close grip is considered anything closer than your personal competition grip.
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post 1546393001 03-14-2018, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
Okay since we have industry experts here, what are the benefits of this form? Should I change my training to this form immediately?
It allows you to move the maximum amount of weight. Answer is obvious

That's kind of a loaded question. You should absolutely adopt some of these techniques for technical proficiency and safety as Bobby mentioned. Whether you should push it this far is really dependent on your goals
Originally Posted By optimus1⏩
I really don't give a ****
Odd considering the amount of times you've posted ITT

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post 1546393031 03-14-2018, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted By optimus1⏩
There's the rules then there's following the spirit of the rules.This kind of crap is called a loophole and it should be addressed. Just because it is within the rules does not mean it is good for the spirit of competition. Obviously I believe any rules that allow the nonsense seen in OPs video to be legal should be changed. Saying you bench 550 means one thing, the video shows something else entirely.
This only thing I agree with you about and yes loop holes exist and everyone now abuses them but be sure its legal. Even with those loop holes people never gain much from them, their base strength is always pretty good.

The issue I had with you is speculating that he's weak and not jacked when you can't even unrack the weight yourself while coping like this :
Originally Posted By optimus1⏩
Not surprising he goes to MIT. He looks small as fuk and is cheating with physics to complete a lift rather than testing his true strength lol
Just lol, his "True strength" is way Higher than you
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa⏩
The rules are clear.

You shoulders and ass can’t leave the bench. Your feet can leave the floor. The weight must come off the rack, establish control, lower to your chest when the command is given, once it reaches your chest, stop and establish control, press command says go up and once elbows are locked out and weight is controlled...it’s a good lift.

You don’t get to alter those with “it doesn’t impress me”.
Add in a reasonable restriction on arch and you've got a proper rule set.
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post 1546393171 03-14-2018, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted By optimus1⏩
Add in a reasonable restriction on arch and you've got a proper rule set.
Ok, set what that is and how to measure it during a competition but do so in a way that the lifter isn’t impeded and the other 69 lifters flings that day aren’t waiting 4-5 minutes per lifter. A measurement like that can’t be subjective.
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa⏩
The rules are clear.

You shoulders and ass can’t leave the bench. Your feet can leave the floor. The weight must come off the rack, establish control, lower to your chest when the command is given, once it reaches your chest, stop and establish control, press command says go up and once elbows are locked out and weight is controlled...it’s a good lift.

You don’t get to alter those with “it doesn’t impress me”.
This guys competes USAPL so his head can't leave the bench and his heels much be planted too
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post 1546393251 03-14-2018, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted By optimus1⏩
Add in a reasonable restriction on arch and you've got a proper rule set.
How would you measure that? I'm curious to know your enlightened answer.
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa⏩
Ok, set what that is and how to measure it during a competition but do so in a way that the lifter isn’t impeded and the other 69 lifters flings that day aren’t waiting 4-5 minutes per lifter. A measurement like that can’t be subjective.
Your arch height can't be higher than the height of your elbows
post 1546393411 03-14-2018, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted By jesteraq⏩
How would you measure that? I'm curious to know your enlightened answer.
We literally walked on the moon. I'm pretty sure some idiot can figure out a way to properly and fairly measure a back arch. This guy goes to MIT, let him figure it out.
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post 1546393521 03-14-2018, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted By jesteraq⏩
How would you measure that? I'm curious to know your enlightened answer.
I proposed keeping it in line with the restrictions on squat where the crease of the hip has to travel below the knee. Potentially, the crease of the elbow should travel below the shoulder.

Also, no one is debating whether the rule was broken or not I don't know what you're even addressing that for.
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post 1546393541 03-14-2018, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted By optimus1⏩
We literally walked on the moon. I'm pretty sure some idiot can figure out a way to properly and fairly measure a back arch. This guy goes to MIT, let him figure it out.
Yeah, why don't you figure it out then? You know, since you're so smart and all.
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post 1546393581 03-14-2018, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted By jesteraq⏩
Yeah, why don't you figure it out then? You know, since you're so smart and all.
Not my job. PL is apparently a joke anyway if rules allow this kind of thing, so I'm not going to waste any effort.
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post 1546393791 03-14-2018, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted By optimus1⏩
Not my job. PL is apparently a joke anyway if rules allow this kind of thing, so I'm not going to waste any effort.
Then shut the fuk up about rules if you're not going to give anything constructive. Won't even figure out how to measure arch despite that being your whole beef with a guy half your age, on the internet, who is better than you in every possible way.
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post 1546393841 03-14-2018, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted By optimus1⏩
We literally walked on the moon. I'm pretty sure some idiot can figure out a way to properly and fairly measure a back arch. This guy goes to MIT, let him figure it out.
Lol bring in Elon Musk to make this guys bench “acceptable”...
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Originally Posted By jesteraq⏩
Then shut the fuk up about rules if you're not going to give anything constructive. Won't even figure out how to measure arch despite that being your whole beef with a guy half your age, on the internet, who is better than you in every possible way.
Guy was knocking him for going to MIT, like what the hell
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post 1546394071 03-14-2018, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted By TommyRO⏩
Guy was knocking him for going to MIT, like what the hell
It's nothing personal bro, he arches like a ******* and goes to ******* MIT like a *******.
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post 1546394121 03-14-2018, 08:16 AM
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imagine seeing this at the Olympics, people would rofl
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa⏩
Lol bring in Elon Musk to make this guys bench “acceptable”...
Point being, Elon Musk's retarded younger brother could figure this out. The only reason it hasn't been changed is because doing a reasonable arch would cause #'s to drop. And at the end of the day, all PLers care about is numbers. Zero self respect as to whether those #'s were achieved through strength or through bull**** leverage techniques. When you're benching with 90 degree arch and 2" range of motion, you've failed. That the rules say you haven't fails just means the rules suck, doesn't change the fact that your technique is bull****.
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Originally Posted By optimus1⏩
Not my job. PL is apparently a joke anyway if rules allow this kind of thing, so I'm not going to waste any effort.
Its such a joke that you spent all morning crying about it
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Originally Posted By Brosciencehash1⏩
imagine seeing this at the Olympics, people would rofl
Great example.

Do they rofl at the ridiculous contortion athletes do during the high jump and pole vault?
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why are all the twinks crying? this guy is strong all around so what if he has excessive arch? probably benches more than everybody crying phuckin ****s.
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Originally Posted By optimus1⏩
Point being, Elon Musk's retarded younger brother could figure this out. The only reason it hasn't been changed is because doing a reasonable arch would cause #'s to drop. And at the end of the day, all PLers care about is numbers. Zero self respect as to whether those #'s were achieved through strength or through bull**** leverage techniques. When you're benching with 90 degree arch and 2" range of motion, you've failed. That the rules say you haven't fails just means the rules suck, doesn't change the fact that your technique is bull****.
You can talk trash all you want, point is he will outlift you even under all your circumstances. That's all that needs to be said here.
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Originally Posted By sammywatkins⏩
Your arch height can't be higher than the height of your elbows
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Originally Posted By midcoastking33⏩
Didn't even see that comment. Advocating overflared elbows just to get your elbows higher than your arch. Good way to hurt yourself.
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Originally Posted By jesteraq⏩
Didn't even see that comment. Advocating overflared elbows just to get your elbows higher than your arch. Good way to hurt yourself.
Pretty sure that benching 550 with a 90 arch right above your neck is also a good way to hurt yourself. Without his boyfriends nearby to help, that is a deadly failure.
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Started with his elbows bent. No lift.
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