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Structural engineer. Lmao. What is that like a chittier civil engineer? And civil engineering is a joke to begin with.
Congratulations, you are literally at the bottom of the engineering heirachry.
No wonder you’re mad. All makes sense now lmao
Congratulations, you are literally at the bottom of the engineering heirachry.
No wonder you’re mad. All makes sense now lmao
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
HOA neighborhoods are the worst. It just gives miserable people an excuse to bring other people down to their miserable status by their constant harassment over nothing.not in the least bit.
If you live in an HOA (where everyone has to mind their P's and Q's) or a neighborhood with mostly older liberal residents with nothing to do, you better believe they're snooping around looking for chit to write-up/report.
If you live in an HOA (where everyone has to mind their P's and Q's) or a neighborhood with mostly older liberal residents with nothing to do, you better believe they're snooping around looking for chit to write-up/report.
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Originally Posted By ssilv⏩
Hasn't been my experience (20+ years in STEM field, currently C-Level with mid-sized multinational firm).1. Pass up trips due to child needs
2. Limited involvement due to time and energy constraints
3... do you get the point?
Put someone with a kid and someone without a kid in the same position. The person without a kid will be more available, have more energy, and will ultimately be more focused due to any side chit not being there.
2. Limited involvement due to time and energy constraints
3... do you get the point?
Put someone with a kid and someone without a kid in the same position. The person without a kid will be more available, have more energy, and will ultimately be more focused due to any side chit not being there.
You cut your teeth in industry in your 20s, I traveled, worked the remote jobs, and put in the 3000hr years. In my later 20s I leveraged my field experience and worked to transition into supervisory and then management roles. Started a family, wife stays at home and manages the household. I now manage a primary business unit and business development for a $300M group of companies working about 45-50hrs a week.
I also never miss a field trip, I left early yesterday for Parent Teacher Interviews. My CEO has 4 kids, I covered his board presentation last month so he could see his sons play hockey.
Looking back the advice I give to people is if you need to forgo friends and family just to reach or maintain a position that you are in, then you are punching above your weight class and doomed to burn out. You don't have the bandwidth for what you are attempting.
But you sound like your mind is made up, if you dont want kids dont have them, dont know why this warrants 5 pages of arguing.
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03-23-2018, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted By TheWeeknd4Ever⏩
Totally.Structural engineer. Lmao. What is that like a chittier civil engineer? And civil engineering is a joke to begin with.
Congratulations, yoh are literally at the bottom of the engineering heirachry.
No wonder you’re mad. All makes sense now lmao
Congratulations, yoh are literally at the bottom of the engineering heirachry.
No wonder you’re mad. All makes sense now lmao
If you add a few more "lmao," rage-induced spelling errors and other illegitimate claims, it will be easier to pretend that you're not crying right now.
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03-23-2018, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted By TheWeeknd4Ever⏩
Ignoring the fact that you didn't even know what Cobhc referenced (since you're engineering), let's humble thyself. I'm excited for you and the tests you're passing (srs) and the career you're starting. Nothing like the excitement of accomplishing things.Structural engineer. Lmao. What is that like a chittier civil engineer? And civil engineering is a joke to begin with.
Congratulations, you are literally at the bottom of the engineering heirachry.
No wonder you’re mad. All makes sense now lmao
Congratulations, you are literally at the bottom of the engineering heirachry.
No wonder you’re mad. All makes sense now lmao
However, I know plenty of engineers of all types. Let's see your outlook on things when you're 28ish, maybe even sooner. There seems to be a cycle to these things.
Originally Posted By engj⏩
I agree that people with characteristics that will carry them in their fields can do it with(out) children. Sticking with OP's original statement, the answer is no, kids don't keep you from your "peak". Our own selves keep us from peaks.Hasn't been my experience (20+ years in STEM field, currently C-Level with mid-sized multinational firm).
You cut your teeth in industry in your 20s, I traveled, worked the remote jobs, and put in the 3000hr years. In my later 20s I leveraged my field experience and worked to transition into supervisory and then management roles. Started a family, wife stays at home and manages the household. I now manage a primary business unit and business development for a $300M group of companies working about 45-50hrs a week.
I also never miss a field trip, I left early yesterday for Parent Teacher Interviews. My CEO has 4 kids, I covered his board presentation last month so he could see his sons play hockey.
Looking back the advice I give to people is if you need to forgo friends and family just to reach or maintain a position that you are in, then you are punching above your weight class and doomed to burn out. You don't have the bandwidth for what you are attempting.
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You cut your teeth in industry in your 20s, I traveled, worked the remote jobs, and put in the 3000hr years. In my later 20s I leveraged my field experience and worked to transition into supervisory and then management roles. Started a family, wife stays at home and manages the household. I now manage a primary business unit and business development for a $300M group of companies working about 45-50hrs a week.
I also never miss a field trip, I left early yesterday for Parent Teacher Interviews. My CEO has 4 kids, I covered his board presentation last month so he could see his sons play hockey.
Looking back the advice I give to people is if you need to forgo friends and family just to reach or maintain a position that you are in, then you are punching above your weight class and doomed to burn out. You don't have the bandwidth for what you are attempting.
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Originally Posted By melDorado⏩
the caveat behind saving more money before having a kid could be the difference in being able to be a full time parent and prioritize that instead of trying to juggle a job at the same time. I am curious to see how much easier raising children would be if you had enough passive income to live comfortably while being able to spend 24/7 with child.You lot gonna be old af dads
I got married at 20 first kid 21
Im 44 and theyre all grown up now but the best thing was having them young when youre still vital, full of energy and not stuck in your ways.
Being a young parent was awesome and.im super close with my grown up kids because of it. Plus now i get to have another shot at child free life while im still young enough to enjoy it and while others my age are still stuck in that toddlers and junior school grind
I got married at 20 first kid 21
Im 44 and theyre all grown up now but the best thing was having them young when youre still vital, full of energy and not stuck in your ways.
Being a young parent was awesome and.im super close with my grown up kids because of it. Plus now i get to have another shot at child free life while im still young enough to enjoy it and while others my age are still stuck in that toddlers and junior school grind
also having children means you now created human beings that can work for you...parents did it to me when i turned 13, made me work in their grocery store while they played golf lmao
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Originally Posted By canonhope⏩
I’m a chemical engineer covering the energy sector man, I wouldn’t know what that reference is. I figured it was something engineering related and to have work cited I guess that means you have to be a professional? But that’s not in my wheelhouse.Ignoring the fact that you didn't even know what Cobhc referenced (since you're engineering), let's humble thyself. I'm excited for you and the tests you're passing (srs) and the career you're starting. Nothing like the excitement of accomplishing things.
However, I know plenty of engineers of all types. Let's see your outlook on things when you're 28ish, maybe even sooner. There seems to be a cycle to these things.
I agree that people with characteristics that will carry them in their fields can do it with(out) children. Sticking with OP's original statement, the answer is no, kids don't keep you from your "peak". Our own selves keep us from peaks.
However, I know plenty of engineers of all types. Let's see your outlook on things when you're 28ish, maybe even sooner. There seems to be a cycle to these things.
I agree that people with characteristics that will carry them in their fields can do it with(out) children. Sticking with OP's original statement, the answer is no, kids don't keep you from your "peak". Our own selves keep us from peaks.
Dude is talking about me crying when everyone in this thread has shredded his point of view because it has no reasonable basis and I have phenomenal career prospects.
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Originally Posted By canonhope⏩
I guess it also depends how you define peak.Ignoring the fact that you didn't even know what Cobhc referenced (since you're engineering), let's humble thyself. I'm excited for you and the tests you're passing (srs) and the career you're starting. Nothing like the excitement of accomplishing things.
However, I know plenty of engineers of all types. Let's see your outlook on things when you're 28ish, maybe even sooner. There seems to be a cycle to these things.
I agree that people with characteristics that will carry them in their fields can do it with(out) children. Sticking with OP's original statement, the answer is no, kids don't keep you from your "peak". Our own selves keep us from peaks.
However, I know plenty of engineers of all types. Let's see your outlook on things when you're 28ish, maybe even sooner. There seems to be a cycle to these things.
I agree that people with characteristics that will carry them in their fields can do it with(out) children. Sticking with OP's original statement, the answer is no, kids don't keep you from your "peak". Our own selves keep us from peaks.
A guy gutting out 70-80hr weeks through his 30s/40s because it gets incrementally higher prestige titles or a fatter bonus isn't peaking to me. Why would you hand the complete control of your life to your employer? I have worked with types like this and most have been the singularly most miserable/boring kunts you can work with, all they want to talk about is work or the chit they have bought to justify the time spent at work.
But different strokes, if you get more satisfaction from work than you do from personal relationships then go for it.
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Luckily i dont have any yet
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Originally Posted By ssilv⏩
The gloves have come offAnd lmao if you think calling me immature means anything when you don't even look like you lift
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It changes your priorities in life. I wouldn’t say it stops you from peaking. It’s probably more dependant on the woman you had the kid with than the kids.
I have friends with kids who still do fun things, lift and travel, him and his wife make things work.
I have other friends who quit working out, drinking and basically leaving their house. Most of it was because they are not a solid couple.
I have friends with kids who still do fun things, lift and travel, him and his wife make things work.
I have other friends who quit working out, drinking and basically leaving their house. Most of it was because they are not a solid couple.
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Originally Posted By cobhc⏩
Lol at swinging the little dick around. You still probably earn poverty wages compared to me, calm down child. You claim to not mind when people don't want kids, then you get butthurt as fuk. You have a grandpa mentality about enjoying life and feel that when people want to go to Vegas at 35 they are immature - what? 30s are still young. Vegas isn't just for 21 year olds. In your 30s you'll be able to better enjoy it with even more money. LOL at you. Plus you keep calling people parasites and not explaining why even when directly asked. Strong everything captain cope.My work is referenced in AISC360-16 and AISC341-16.
Congratulations, you have a degree but at the moment you're inexperienced and I'm assuming have a long way to go from calling yourself a Chemical Engineer. I wish you the best in achieving that, it's a difficult field and from the looks of it, you're still a dumb *******.
Congratulations, you have a degree but at the moment you're inexperienced and I'm assuming have a long way to go from calling yourself a Chemical Engineer. I wish you the best in achieving that, it's a difficult field and from the looks of it, you're still a dumb *******.
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LOL at the argument that having kids is not selfish.
I did not ask to be born, yet here i am dealing with the vast miseries and challenges life has to offer untill i inevitably die. The one thing that is certain in this world is death, and old age is if your lucky.
Death by human or death by horrific disease is most likley.
Humans are gifted with logical thought but cursed with emotional action, im tellin ya.
I did not ask to be born, yet here i am dealing with the vast miseries and challenges life has to offer untill i inevitably die. The one thing that is certain in this world is death, and old age is if your lucky.
Death by human or death by horrific disease is most likley.
Humans are gifted with logical thought but cursed with emotional action, im tellin ya.
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Originally Posted By ESlong⏩
LOL at the argument that having kids is not selfish.
I did not ask to be born, yet here i am dealing with the vast miseries and challenges life has to offer untill i inevitably die. The one thing that is certain in this world is death, and old age is if your lucky.
Death by human or death by horrific disease is most likley.
Humans are gifted with logical thought but cursed with emotional action, im tellin ya.
I did not ask to be born, yet here i am dealing with the vast miseries and challenges life has to offer untill i inevitably die. The one thing that is certain in this world is death, and old age is if your lucky.
Death by human or death by horrific disease is most likley.
Humans are gifted with logical thought but cursed with emotional action, im tellin ya.
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Kids are great....for some people.
At almost 29 i still have very little desire to have my own. Sure, i love my friends and relatives kids but only in small doses. I feel a huge amount of relief when i get home after visiting them for more than a few hours. The amount of time and money it takes to raise a child properly is astronomical. Everyone i know with kids lives paycheck to paycheck, eats like chit, and is getting fat and/or is already obese. They also work 60 hours a week to support that suburbia life. No thanks jeff. I love being able to do what I want, when i want, how i want, with no one biching and complaining. I could easily support a 4 member household on my income, but instead i use it to travel, buy jeeps/trucks/toys, buy properties, and invest in stocks. My lifestyle isn't for everyone, but its perfect for me.
Inb4 but OMG you are going to die alone...
Just lmao at this mindset. Half of marriages end in divorce, and the other half are usually made up of couples sleeping in separate beds by age 50. Being with the same person for years and years on end never seemed natural to me. Props to the boys in here that manage to live that life. Ill take a 5/10 tinder sloot every day of the week over an aging, demanding, fat wife who biches 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and only puts out on Saturday mornings.
At almost 29 i still have very little desire to have my own. Sure, i love my friends and relatives kids but only in small doses. I feel a huge amount of relief when i get home after visiting them for more than a few hours. The amount of time and money it takes to raise a child properly is astronomical. Everyone i know with kids lives paycheck to paycheck, eats like chit, and is getting fat and/or is already obese. They also work 60 hours a week to support that suburbia life. No thanks jeff. I love being able to do what I want, when i want, how i want, with no one biching and complaining. I could easily support a 4 member household on my income, but instead i use it to travel, buy jeeps/trucks/toys, buy properties, and invest in stocks. My lifestyle isn't for everyone, but its perfect for me.
Inb4 but OMG you are going to die alone...
Just lmao at this mindset. Half of marriages end in divorce, and the other half are usually made up of couples sleeping in separate beds by age 50. Being with the same person for years and years on end never seemed natural to me. Props to the boys in here that manage to live that life. Ill take a 5/10 tinder sloot every day of the week over an aging, demanding, fat wife who biches 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and only puts out on Saturday mornings.
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I'm 26, college full time and I have sole custody of my 18month daughter. Granted I don't need to work a regular job to provide for her, things are really not as difficult as people make it seem. She just started daycare for the first time this week so shes been with me almost 24/7(minus school or gym). With daycare being available 6am to 630pm there is only like 4-5 hours she would need care for(because of sleep) a day, if I let her stay in daycare that long.
I think life gets so hard/declines for people 25 or whatever OP mentioned because people have to make a life change if they were party goers, irresponsible and other ****ty habits. The only thing that changed for me was I cant go and party it up every weekend, get drunk af/reckless and a lot of life has to be scheduled instead of free spirit/spur of the moment.
I think life gets so hard/declines for people 25 or whatever OP mentioned because people have to make a life change if they were party goers, irresponsible and other ****ty habits. The only thing that changed for me was I cant go and party it up every weekend, get drunk af/reckless and a lot of life has to be scheduled instead of free spirit/spur of the moment.
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Originally Posted By ashin1⏩
This is the situation I am in, I've been with my child raising her without working since she was about 3months and she is almost 2 now. The amount of time I spend with her, her personality matches mine maybe a little to much lmao but her personality and development far exceeds any of my friends who have children who are near her age or even a year older, that work and other things that they spend less time with them.the caveat behind saving more money before having a kid could be the difference in being able to be a full time parent and prioritize that instead of trying to juggle a job at the same time. I am curious to see how much easier raising children would be if you had enough passive income to live comfortably while being able to spend 24/7 with child.
also having children means you now created human beings that can work for you...parents did it to me when i turned 13, made me work in their grocery store while they played golf lmao
also having children means you now created human beings that can work for you...parents did it to me when i turned 13, made me work in their grocery store while they played golf lmao
I don't have to worry about insurance, daycare bills(I just got her into it so she can socialize with kids though), or other things I guess parents worry about. It's been an absolute joy for me and im looking forward to her being older where we can actually enjoy things together as right now anything i really do would be more for me then her, since she wont remember it lol. At times I think about trying to get another child while I'm still young.
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Originally Posted By PowerOfTruth⏩
Absolutely.For some, raising good, productive children (adults) is the pinnacle.
If by "some" you mean "none".
That's some major cope IMO.
Put it this way if you gave everybody at 18 years old the option to for the next 20 years:
Be whatever it is they want to be in life, at the highest level be it actors, athletes, musicians etc., or have and successfully raise kids, how many would choose kids?
Therefor it can't be the pinnacle, and by process of elimination can't be anything besides cope.
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
A lot of people live life through their kids, whether its failed athletes, singers or etc. So that childs success could be a pinnacle for the parent, or a child being able to take care of a parent financially or whatever possible things.Absolutely.
If by "some" you mean "none".
That's some major cope IMO.
Put it this way if you gave everybody at 18 years old the option to for the next 20 years:
Be whatever it is they want to be in life, at the highest level be it actors, athletes, musicians etc., or have and successfully raise kids, how many would choose kids?
Therefor it can't be the pinnacle, and by process of elimination can't be anything besides cope.
If by "some" you mean "none".
That's some major cope IMO.
Put it this way if you gave everybody at 18 years old the option to for the next 20 years:
Be whatever it is they want to be in life, at the highest level be it actors, athletes, musicians etc., or have and successfully raise kids, how many would choose kids?
Therefor it can't be the pinnacle, and by process of elimination can't be anything besides cope.
Although its very unlikely anyone would choose kids over the things you mentioned, you have to also take into account that the majority of the people likely have little chance to become those high level things you said otherwise a child PROBABLY would not prevent them from doing so.
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Originally Posted By ssilv⏩
yes. but most people with kids consider having the kids their peak.Do you guys think that having kids (maybe in Mid-Late 20's) can stop you from peaking in life? They require so much time, attention, and money that I believe one would skip opportunities or risk in order to "keep providing for a family".
I know a lot of people having kids and they're just over 25. Saw another thread on here about how "life starts to decline after 25", which IMO is bullchit, since you are still young and have so much to learn about how the world works. Once you have kids, your life is no longer your own and you have to literally provide for another being. Risks are almost not worth the stress from the weight on your back at that point.
I know a lot of people having kids and they're just over 25. Saw another thread on here about how "life starts to decline after 25", which IMO is bullchit, since you are still young and have so much to learn about how the world works. Once you have kids, your life is no longer your own and you have to literally provide for another being. Risks are almost not worth the stress from the weight on your back at that point.
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