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post 1547226271 03-23-2018, 01:25 PM
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Had to go vegan for a month. That's no way to live. SRS

So brahs first day of March from a blood test I found out my ALT (113) AST (46) and Creatinine (1,33) levels were too high. Then I decided to detox my liver by not drinking any alcohol or eating meat.

AST and Creatinine are fixed and ALT is lowered by half (58) but I'm feeling unhealthy af plus seeing all these people eating meat and getting drunk in front of me is a torture.

I'll drink a sixpack and eat tons of kebaps daily once this chits over. How tf do vegans do it??
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This is unexpected, I thought you were supposed to feel alot better, what you mean by feeling unhealthy? How's your skin and energy levels?
I got this
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you could probably lay off the alcohol a little bit

but agreed, could not imagine myself going vegan
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Originally Posted By StainlesSon
This is unexpected, I thought you were supposed to feel alot better, what you mean by feeling unhealthy? How's your skin and energy levels?
Energy is allright but I look little bit pale than before.
post 1547227121 03-23-2018, 01:32 PM
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Vegans are definitely motivated by the animal cruelty & lifestyle reform factor. Plus there's lots of vegan junk food that make it less miserable like donuts.
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Inb4 your levels are too high again next month
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Interesting... Goes vegan, health problems decrease, yet living healthy is no way to live...

It's not hard to be vegan. Hit your macros and figure out what's available to eat that you like. There is literally vegan everything at this point... Vegan wings, chicken nuggets, ribs, cookies, cakes, cheese, milk, and an overwhelming majority of them if you experiment a bit taste very good
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post 1547228421 03-23-2018, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport
Vegans are definitely motivated by the animal cruelty & lifestyle reform factor.
I don't have a problem with people adopting veganism for purely moral reasons, just as I don't have a problem with most religions or moral systems. But it also promotes a lot of pseudoscience regarding it's supposed health benefits and how "natural" it is for you, which I'm not fine with.
post 1547229341 03-23-2018, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted By StainlesSon
This is unexpected, I thought you were supposed to feel alot better, what you mean by feeling unhealthy? How's your skin and energy levels?
Confirmation bias/placebo etc etc. I did vegetarian for 30 days, then vegan following 30 days. The only thing it forced me to do was look up creative ways to make things I enjoyed, like hamburgers (black bean burgers when made right are pretty tasty, but still don't really compare). I also ate a ton of lasagna and pizza (lul technically vegetarian, vegan with veggie cheese). A lot of the stuff in the store that's vegan are expensive af, taste like dirt and probably more processed than just buying a pack of ground beef. A friend of mine recently said she stopped eating the store-bought vegan food and all of her digestion issues went away.

Beyond real medical issues or moral issues (I guess), I think it's pretty silly to exclude major food groups from your diet. I felt no different when I ate this way. Then again, people say eating wheat/carbs is why people are fat, but I've cut just fine with plenty of carbs. Depending on who you ask, I guess I'm an anomaly.
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It's a very unhealthy diet. Vegans look sickly on their diet but they tell this collective lie about how amazing they feel at the same time. Reminds me of obese people proclaiming their health and happiness.
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How can you detox your liver when the liver is the detoxing organ. That's like saying I'm gonna mop my mop.
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I tried to switch to veganism cause of animal cruelty but the food is just so bad. I had some vegan cheese and it was all gooey and had a weird after taste. Tofu made me barf. Vegan burgers are alright, but mainly cause the sauces hide everything. If I went vegan it would basically be eating salads for the rest of my life.

Sorry animals...
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Originally Posted By Sinan09400
How tf do vegans do it??
they berate others about meat eating as a coping mechansim
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Originally Posted By MetalliNattyCa
Inb4 your levels are too high again next month
I'm not gonna care whether they are high or low next month
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How can you detox your liver when the liver is the detoxing organ. That's like saying I'm gonna mop my mop.
A dirty mop can not mop floors decently. So you have to clean it sometime.
Originally Posted By phillyfreak7
Interesting... Goes vegan, health problems decrease, yet living healthy is no way to live...

It's not hard to be vegan. Hit your macros and figure out what's available to eat that you like. There is literally vegan everything at this point... Vegan wings, chicken nuggets, ribs, cookies, cakes, cheese, milk, and an overwhelming majority of them if you experiment a bit taste very good
Sorry man but it isnt for me. Without meat no meal feels like a meal to me.
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inb4 bjjnovice. Post in here so I can neg your vegan homosexual ass boy
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post 1547232271 03-23-2018, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted By Sinan09400
So brahs first day of March from a blood test I found out my ALT (113) AST (46) and Creatinine (1,33) levels were too high. Then I decided to detox my liver by not drinking any alcohol or eating meat.

AST and Creatinine are fixed and ALT is lowered by half (58) but I'm feeling unhealthy af plus seeing all these people eating meat and getting drunk in front of me is a torture.

I'll drink a sixpack and eat tons of kebaps daily once this chits over. How tf do vegans do it??
To give a serious answer to your question -

your tastes/tastebuds adapt over time and what you like and prefer changes based on your habits. It's only so difficult for you to eat vegan because you've been eating animal products and processed junk your entire life. No doubt eating a whole food plant diet is very difficult for people in the modern world eating a modern disease and cancer causing diet. But the reality is after you do it long enough you adapt and it becomes what you prefer.
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I'm not really convinced its healthier for everyone. If I try something like the carnivore diet (meat + water mainly) I feel fantastic. zero bloat. No constipation. No gas. Regular chitting. Etc.



If I try something more along the lines of vegetarian (never even bothered with full vegan) its the opposite. Need to chit 6+ times per day. Constantly feeling bloated. Get really hungry every few hours. Lower energy levels. Look more drawn/lifeless. Etc.



It might work better for some people and over time they might get used to it. But I'm not entirely convinced we are all cut out to live on plants.
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My daughter went vegan a year or so ago and it's really helped her loose weight. Instead of looking for vegan versions of cheese, milk, meat, etc. she's learned how to do it the right way and prepare foods that have been apart of vegitarian and vegan diets for a long time; spending 3 months in Thailand with her mom helped a lot in that regard. It's doable
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Originally Posted By bjjnovice
To give a serious answer to your question -

your tastes/tastebuds adapt over time and what you like and prefer changes based on your habits. It's only so difficult for you to eat vegan because you've been eating animal products and processed junk your entire life. No doubt eating a whole food plant diet is very difficult for people in the modern world eating a modern disease and cancer causing diet. But the reality is after you do it long enough you adapt and it becomes what you prefer.
When I started eating vegetables I needed to stir fry them to make it palatable after a few months I could enjoy them straight from the boiler I was able to cut down the sugar for my coffee from 3 tablespoons to 1/3 of a tablespoon without tasting bitterness some of the junk food I used to enjoy started tasting over saturated and chemically.
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Originally Posted By sowilson
My daughter went vegan a year or so ago and it's really helped her loose weight. Instead of looking for vegan versions of cheese, milk, meat, etc. she's learned how to do it the right way and prepare foods that have been apart of vegitarian and vegan diets for a long time; spending 3 months in Thailand with her mom helped a lot in that regard. It's doable
This.

It's not about eating a bunch of BS which at the end of the day is still processed ****, it's about eating raw foods.

Salads, fruits, vegetables.

I'm not vegan, meat makes up like 20% or less of my diet, and usually it's either fish or eggs, with the occasional red meat, basically one serving or less of meat per day.

I feel great on the diet and I'd have to try really hard to get fat, although I don't think I could ever completely give up meat as I don't think that's healthy.
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon
This.

It's not about eating a bunch of BS which at the end of the day is still processed ****, it's about eating raw foods.

Salads, fruits, vegetables.

I'm not vegan, meat makes up like 20% or less of my diet, and usually it's either fish or eggs, with the occasional red meat, basically one serving or less of meat per day.

I feel great on the diet and I'd have to try really hard to get fat, although I don't think I could ever completely give up meat as I don't think that's healthy.
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Yeah vegan is is crazy

Op you could just get some vitamin c e selenium water lemon oranges broc**** cabbage N stuff and some chicken or turkey once or twice 100 grans and problem solved
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Originally Posted By bjjnovice
To give a serious answer to your question -

your tastes/tastebuds adapt over time and what you like and prefer changes based on your habits. It's only so difficult for you to eat vegan because you've been eating animal products and processed junk your entire life. No doubt eating a whole food plant diet is very difficult for people in the modern world eating a modern disease and cancer causing diet. But the reality is after you do it long enough you adapt and it becomes what you prefer.
Yea I guarantee that if you were to go eat a steak today your taste buds wouldn’t have to adjust to ****. I mean if this dogchit vegan food is natural you’d think you’d naturally enjoy it right? Maybe there’s a reason salad tastes good with chicken in it.....
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Originally Posted By nzgs
It's a very unhealthy diet. Vegans look sickly on their diet but they tell this collective lie about how amazing they feel at the same time. Reminds me of obese people proclaiming their health and happiness.
Vegans live longer because there's less risk of developing heart disease and cancer on a vegan diet. Very much the opposite of unhealthy.

I look the exact same as when I was eating meat. I hit the same exact micros and macros. Nothing has went down on me. I didn't lose even a pound going vegan.
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they berate others about meat eating as a coping mechansim
No, they're just aware of 60 billion animals every year dying to feed people that is completely unnecessary at this point, environmentally damaging, and help contribute to higher rates of cancer and heart disease.
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Vegan diet is obviously healthier than a traditional american diet, as the traditional american diet is ****. Ideal "normalish" diet would probably be the Mediterranean diet. But I respect vegans for doing what they do as far as animals are concerned. It's ****ed up what some of them go through in order to feed us.

I lol @ liberals who bitch about the environment and corporations poisoning the air when they eat meat - overwhelming majority of greenhouse effect caused by cattle.
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