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post 1547621291 03-28-2018, 06:05 AM
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It depends on a lot of things, such as how you're dressed, if you wear fitted clothing and have a decent amount of mass you'll look like you lift. Then again if you are 220+ you can throw on a blanket and still look like you lift.

Being shredded does absolutely nothing if you have a shirt on.
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post 1547621321 03-28-2018, 06:06 AM
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a 200lbs 6 ft guy who lifts is going to look bigger than an untrained 6 ft 230lbs male, because he will have mass in the right places (i.e shoulders, chest etc) and be tight in the waist.

Dumb thread is dumb.
post 1547621351 03-28-2018, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted By RonaldMcflurry
Lol. At 6'2 or under, if you weigh 200+ pounds (with abs) then you are playing Tekken. 200+ pounds bodyweight on a fat dude is like tits on a fat woman, it doesn't count.
Nah, this generalization is taking it too far. I'm 5'9 and 205 lbs, obviously not ripped, but acceptable bf% imo (do have abs) and I've never rode the TdF bike.
post 1547621411 03-28-2018, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa
Not at all...

Today is a heavy back day so I'll work up to a 675 deadlift single because deadlifts are used to grow a huge back and then over to sntach-grip rows with 245 for sets of 8-10, lat pulldowns, DB bentover rows for 20 since they only have DB's that go up to 110's and finish with light straight arm downs.

Hypertrophy days are easier since high volume doesn't require weight resistance...just reps so anything over 5 db's doesn't matter. At least that's what I read here LOL...you get the exact same results DB rowing 15's for 15 as you do rowing 100's so why waste the energy?
People are built differently though.

People always estimate me to be 230lbsish, yet i'm about 200 (i'm 6'3). Bone structure etc plays a massive part, so i don't think it's as simple as OP makes out. I get better results in terms of mass from high reps.

I deadlift 605lbs and squat 495lbs so i'm not as strong as you, but i'm not exactly weak
post 1547621651 03-28-2018, 06:13 AM
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post 1547621731 03-28-2018, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted By TappingTheZen
People are built differently though.

People always estimate me to be 230lbsish, yet i'm about 200 (i'm 6'3). Bone structure etc plays a massive part, so i don't think it's as simple as OP makes out. I get better results in terms of mass from high reps.

I deadlift 605lbs and squat 495lbs so i'm not as strong as you, but i'm not exactly weak
Oh I get it, man and I understand.

I stated this a while back but I will stop saying that people need to lift heavy to gain mass when people stop saying that someone who is 15% bf is fat...I train both high reps with heavy weight. That's what works for me.
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post 1547622031 03-28-2018, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa
Oh I get it, man and I understand.

I stated this a while back but I will stop saying that people need to lift heavy to gain mass when people stop saying that someone who is 15% bf is fat...I train both high reps with heavy weight. That's what works for me.
I agree, i do the same, i guess i was misunderstanding the point you were making. I tend to do my compounds first relatively heavy then rep out the assistance, but for me, if i drop the volume/assistance work i have a harder time adding quality mass
post 1547623481 03-28-2018, 06:56 AM
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6'2 225lb stud checking in, sry to make you insecure OP. I agree though, lean does not necessarily mean you look bigger, I prefer to stick around 15% bf.
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post 1547623641 03-28-2018, 06:59 AM
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however to look good you do not.
post 1547623851 03-28-2018, 07:03 AM
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6'2" muscle dysmorphia checking in. You really need tech to look good these days. All those instagram fit "huge looking" "models" under 6' look like fcking midgets at expos.
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post 1547624061 03-28-2018, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted By CatabolicBrah
now ur just coping.

u would get alot more attention than the fatty who's 210lbs if ur ripped lol

just go to a gym and see how everyone stares at ripped guys with veins compared
to fat fuks who are the ones doing the staring lmao
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post 1547624111 03-28-2018, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted By ssilv
6'2" muscle dysmorphia checking in. You really need tech to look good these days. All those instagram fit "huge looking" "models" under 6' look like fcking midgets at expos.
this. brb sitting on the couch juicing and putting on more mass than someone who trains and eats religiously
post 1547624301 03-28-2018, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted By Schnitzl
this. brb sitting on the couch juicing and putting on more mass than someone who trains and eats religiously
that face when looking better with your In N Out Burger 4 days per week while your buddy religiously eats chicken and rice lulz
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post 1547625151 03-28-2018, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted By BelieveBrah2018
this is just pure negativity...
make misc great again!
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post 1547625331 03-28-2018, 07:29 AM
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Yeah but the difference is they look like absolute chit with their shirt off
I identify as a chad with a jawline so chiseled it can cut diamond, don't assume my genetics

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post 1547626521 03-28-2018, 07:49 AM
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You can look big while lean or shredded to the general population anyway. Just wear tight fitted shirts and jeans. Any lifter will probably call you small but who gives a chit. Never bloatmaxxing ever again in my life
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post 1547627701 03-28-2018, 08:08 AM
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who the fk cares?

you think anyone is impressed by your massive fatceps? or anyone is afraid of you because you outweigh them? so much of the population is overweight, and unless you're really built, chances are you just look like any other fat guy in clothes, and wildly unimpressive shirtless.

if your goal is to impress 40 year old miscers, then bloat away, if you wanna get laid, stfu and accept the shredz

your insecurities don't mean jack sh-t to 99% of the population, if you're lean with some decent muscle you'll look impressive regardless, if you actually manage to get shredded and tan, das it, you won over pretty much everyone. go out into the world and fu-k off Instagram for a minute
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post 1547627891 03-28-2018, 08:12 AM
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^^^LOL YAAAAAAAAAAAAAS...I was hoping you'd show up!
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post 1547628081 03-28-2018, 08:15 AM
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The average lifter that is 220+ is bloated af. The bloated guy will look bigger regardless if he is wearing a shirt or not. Smaller guys just look better.
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post 1547628131 03-28-2018, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted By MNGA1
Nah, this generalization is taking it too far. I'm 5'9 and 205 lbs, obviously not ripped, but acceptable bf% imo (do have abs) and I've never rode the TdF bike.
Post pics. I'm 5'9" 180 without abs and have an FFMI >22. 5'9" 205 lb. with abs means an FFMI of like 26, which is virtually impossible natty.
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post 1547628391 03-28-2018, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted By CatabolicBrah
now ur just coping.

u would get alot more attention than the fatty who's 210lbs if ur ripped lol

just go to a gym and see how everyone stares at ripped guys with veins compared
to fat fuks who are the ones doing the staring lmao
Can confirm. Fat and strong, nobody cared. Lean and weak, people ask for advice.

Fat was fun tho, not gon lie.
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post 1547628741 03-28-2018, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824
Being shredded does absolutely nothing if you have a shirt on.
Exactly. Here in UK it's almost pointless being shredded unless you're in the bedroom and by the time you're that far it doesn't even matter what %bodyfat you are as you've sealed the deal anyway.

And no, OP. Have you seen how skinny the jeans are these days?
post 1547628781 03-28-2018, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa
^^^LOL YAAAAAAAAAAAAAS...I was hoping you'd show up!
feels good being a twink and seeing new cuts every two days, knowing i can pop off my shirt and look better than any fatso around instantly
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post 1547629171 03-28-2018, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted By CatabolicBrah
putting on mass and being ripped aren't mutually exclusive, u can put on mass while still being lean af.

u dont have to be 165lbs to be ripped
I’m 5’8 152lbs. Shoe size 7.5, ring size 6 lol. I’m getting strong, can put up 235 bench but I don’t gain crap for size. I have been 150 for 10 years.

Was 125 but went in army, gained 25lbs in 3 months during basic when I was 17. Been 150–155 ever since. Just jacked and Lean or soft and pudgy I’m overall a small guy.

My prime. Lots of lifting, with lots of cardio since army made me run

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d9...e/9ce6c19c.jpg

Me now

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d9...psf7gaardx.jpg


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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa
Oh, well the average person doesn't carry the insecurities required to chase a low body fat physique with great muscle mass. They focus on other chit that matters like their family structure, running a business, etc.
I don't get why wanting to build a better you is viewed as insecurity. It's about being the best version of yourself- and part of the self is physical.

Plenty of successful people in business also vest time in their health and physique. Success breeds success.


Frankly, people who do nothing for their health at all and just accept it as part of getting older are the literal lay down and rotters. A successful business doesn't mean much if you die young or having that family isn't as great if you throw your low back out trying to pick up your kid. But that's just my outlook.
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post 1547629571 03-28-2018, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted By s72r
FFMI is flawed. Even the researchers who came up with the ffmi admits this
No index system is perfect, but 5'9" 205 lb. with abs is ridiculous natty. I want to beleaf
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post 1547630031 03-28-2018, 08:44 AM
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I am 176lb when Auschwitz ripped at 6'

70% of people who look bigger are 1) not nearly as lean or 2) taller

thats good enough for me and OP is delusional. people are just fat as fuk and very good at hiding it
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa
Yep and you look big by putting on mass...not attempting to trick the eye by being lean at 165 lbs. That might work in an AVI or IG pic but the second a 165er is standing next to someone that is 210 and 15% bf...that trick is out the window.
True. A guy I worked with last year was 6' and maybe 180lbs. I could tell he was fit/lean, and when he wore a t-shirt I could tell he lifted (arms, v-taper).

I was mirin, but next to my average/fat 6' 210lbs, he looked skinny/small in his skinny pants and tight button shirts.
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Originally Posted By s72r
again, ffmi at 10%+ bf will be greatly skewed, you're taking an already flawed system and adding more degrees of error. Unless the person is 10% or lower, ffmi is meaningless.

depending on bodyfat distribution it is very possible to have semi visible abs at 12%+, I had a full six pack and semi striation in my midsection at 13%. We can't also forget that people fraud stats all the time...
Don't overcomplicate this. Forget about FFMI. I'm simply stating 5'9" 205 lb. with abs is crazy, and I want to see it. I'm asking for pics. For me to have abs at 5'9" I have to be 170, and I"m pretty damn muscular.


Also lol a "possible to have semi-visible abs at 12%+"


bro if you have any decent muscle mass, you will have abs showing up at 15% unless you hold all your fat in your gut. I am starting to get ab visibility at 17%.
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