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Got fuked by LASIK, feel like life is over, need opinions
04-14-2018, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted By ArtistBrahs⏩
Holy fcuk.It's true about suing, you can pretty much forget about it. Lasik is one of the most corrupt industries out there, I'm part of an activist group and plan to be mentioned in a NYT article soon. No attorneys would take my case and they do go over all the risks with you they just downplay how often they happen.
Nerve damage for example is listed as 'dry eye symptoms' which 30% of people get. The issue is that the cornea is the most nerve dense organ in the human body and completely regulates your tear function. The cornea also receives almost no blood supply so after any invasive surgery your nerves get severed and in many cases heal incorrectly leading to dry eyes, halos, eye pain or in my case severe neurapathy.
I take blood plasma drops 8 times a day to try and regenerate the nerves. This is not listed as a side effect and a class action lawsuit is pending against the FDA right now for ignoring the discovery which was made by a Harvard cornea specialist years ago.
As for removing the eye it's not going to stop the pain. After about 6 months post op if the nerves do not heal correctly, which again in 30% cases they don't, it morphs into neurapathy or phantom pain. Becomes less of an eye issue and more of a central nervous system issue. The only solution on record that has helped manage that is a pain pump implanted into your neck with a tube pumping opioids into the nerve relay station in your cranium. Only one doctor in country does it and due to health cre being so fuked they won't pay for it cause it's out of state.
Still waiting on disability. They declined me twice despite having questionare filled out by top cornea specialist in my state, it's just highly beurocratic.
Lastly I might as well warn anyone thinking of having this done or knowing someone having it done or even had it done in past. Of all the doctors and specialist I've seen who perform lasik not one has had the procedure done on themselves and most order there staff to wear contacts. This is an elective procedure and they make up to 15k an hour doing this. It really opened my mind when one doctor confided in me that he would never allow any of his friends or family to do the procedure because he sees people like me to often, only to walk out and greet some poor chump who is thrilled and about to have lasik done having no idea the science or data behind it.
Lasik complications can show up anywhere from 3-10 years post surgery. Anything from increased chance of retina detatchment and ectasia to early onset of cataracts or neurapathy.
With that said I appreciate and am considering all your suggestions. Thanks again.
Nerve damage for example is listed as 'dry eye symptoms' which 30% of people get. The issue is that the cornea is the most nerve dense organ in the human body and completely regulates your tear function. The cornea also receives almost no blood supply so after any invasive surgery your nerves get severed and in many cases heal incorrectly leading to dry eyes, halos, eye pain or in my case severe neurapathy.
I take blood plasma drops 8 times a day to try and regenerate the nerves. This is not listed as a side effect and a class action lawsuit is pending against the FDA right now for ignoring the discovery which was made by a Harvard cornea specialist years ago.
As for removing the eye it's not going to stop the pain. After about 6 months post op if the nerves do not heal correctly, which again in 30% cases they don't, it morphs into neurapathy or phantom pain. Becomes less of an eye issue and more of a central nervous system issue. The only solution on record that has helped manage that is a pain pump implanted into your neck with a tube pumping opioids into the nerve relay station in your cranium. Only one doctor in country does it and due to health cre being so fuked they won't pay for it cause it's out of state.
Still waiting on disability. They declined me twice despite having questionare filled out by top cornea specialist in my state, it's just highly beurocratic.
Lastly I might as well warn anyone thinking of having this done or knowing someone having it done or even had it done in past. Of all the doctors and specialist I've seen who perform lasik not one has had the procedure done on themselves and most order there staff to wear contacts. This is an elective procedure and they make up to 15k an hour doing this. It really opened my mind when one doctor confided in me that he would never allow any of his friends or family to do the procedure because he sees people like me to often, only to walk out and greet some poor chump who is thrilled and about to have lasik done having no idea the science or data behind it.
Lasik complications can show up anywhere from 3-10 years post surgery. Anything from increased chance of retina detatchment and ectasia to early onset of cataracts or neurapathy.
With that said I appreciate and am considering all your suggestions. Thanks again.
Never getting LASIK crew. Glasses for life crew.
Sounds horrible man, I don't know what to say.
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04-14-2018, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted By fluidZ⏩
but religion tends to be supernaturalMy aunt was blind and miraculously recovered her sight years later.
Unfortunately, unexplainable things are not proof of a spiritual world... and if there is a spiritual world, it will one day be conquered the same way that the natural world has been. The only reason scientists wake up each day is to discover that yet which is unknown. Most scientists arereligious, by the way, but I doubt that that most believe in thesupernatural.
Oh, and my aunt went blind again several years later. It started with one eye, then the next.
I pray it doesn't happen to you.
Unfortunately, unexplainable things are not proof of a spiritual world... and if there is a spiritual world, it will one day be conquered the same way that the natural world has been. The only reason scientists wake up each day is to discover that yet which is unknown. Most scientists arereligious, by the way, but I doubt that that most believe in thesupernatural.
Oh, and my aunt went blind again several years later. It started with one eye, then the next.
I pray it doesn't happen to you.
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04-14-2018, 12:18 PM
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Buy a lot of audio books while you can still scour the internet and maybe find some good stuff. Good luck son, I wish I could heal you, but I am a stupid phuck.
Oh, and if money is an issue then start a go fund me page, put a video of your story on youtube. I will donate, others will too, srs.
Smack it
Oh, and if money is an issue then start a go fund me page, put a video of your story on youtube. I will donate, others will too, srs.
Smack it
04-14-2018, 12:19 PM
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My mother in law had lasik 15 years ago and has had no complications, what I think happened in OP's situation is, the doctor didn't do his due diligence, and OP was in fact not a good candidate.
It may be very difficult, but I would definitely sue, OP was not a good candidate, and the doctor failed to tell him that.
It may be very difficult, but I would definitely sue, OP was not a good candidate, and the doctor failed to tell him that.
When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song and die like a hero going home.
04-14-2018, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted By ArtistBrahs⏩
All of those doctors, I'm sure at least one of them told you that you needed to get counseling. Please do that.Just looking for feeeback on situation I been dealing with for few years now. Any input appreciated.
I had LASIK surgery years ago for 30th bday, was a perfect candidate went to best doctor in state who does surgery for pro sports teams etc.
First year everything was fine, saw great no problems. Right eye started getting fuzzy went in was diagnosed with LASIK induced Cornea ectasia which warps cornea over time until legally blind. This happens to 1-3% of patients because the cornea loses its structural integrity during procedure.
Got a procedure done to try and halt progression but that didn't work and gave me haze which made vision even worst. I see triple of everything which causes eye strain and headaches.
Still had left eye so proceeded with my career and passion in life of 3d artist, had just started my own company at time. Things were going great tried staying positive.
Few years later was told other good eye was developing same diseases, caused by losing structural integrity of cornea from lasik, went and had same procedure to halt progression that left me with massive nerve damage which feels like hot grease is in your eye 24/7. Pain is suicidal inducing, constant, and unrelenting.
Had to quit job, move in with parents, lost GF and just try to figure a way to reduce pain while both eyes slowly go blind.
At the point now at 36 where I expect to be legally blind by 40, eye pain condition has no cure or treatment, and I'm pretty much just fuked.
Always tried to stay positive and have seen over 30 docs around country, tried everything etc.
Yesterday for first time got sick of having the constant headaches, the constant pain, not being able to do my passion in life and work and realizing can't date or have much social life or offer chit to anyone, that life will never be same. Went out and hung a rope around tree and neck, but family came home so didn't proceed. For the first time since this all began I welcomed an end to it all, had zero fear.
Just wondering how anyone else here would deal with having there life ruined in such a way and Never be able to function or have extremely low quality of life living in constant eye pain and uncorrectable vision loss that prevents you from doing anything fun or going out, working dating etc.
Not looking for anyone's symphathy just honest feedback on how you would handle. Want to make sure I'm not missing something. Thanks for reading. Cheers.
TLDR:
- had life completely ruined by lasik complications.
- curious how others would handle situation
- considering suicide having exhausted all treatment options
- not looking for sympathy
I had LASIK surgery years ago for 30th bday, was a perfect candidate went to best doctor in state who does surgery for pro sports teams etc.
First year everything was fine, saw great no problems. Right eye started getting fuzzy went in was diagnosed with LASIK induced Cornea ectasia which warps cornea over time until legally blind. This happens to 1-3% of patients because the cornea loses its structural integrity during procedure.
Got a procedure done to try and halt progression but that didn't work and gave me haze which made vision even worst. I see triple of everything which causes eye strain and headaches.
Still had left eye so proceeded with my career and passion in life of 3d artist, had just started my own company at time. Things were going great tried staying positive.
Few years later was told other good eye was developing same diseases, caused by losing structural integrity of cornea from lasik, went and had same procedure to halt progression that left me with massive nerve damage which feels like hot grease is in your eye 24/7. Pain is suicidal inducing, constant, and unrelenting.
Had to quit job, move in with parents, lost GF and just try to figure a way to reduce pain while both eyes slowly go blind.
At the point now at 36 where I expect to be legally blind by 40, eye pain condition has no cure or treatment, and I'm pretty much just fuked.
Always tried to stay positive and have seen over 30 docs around country, tried everything etc.
Yesterday for first time got sick of having the constant headaches, the constant pain, not being able to do my passion in life and work and realizing can't date or have much social life or offer chit to anyone, that life will never be same. Went out and hung a rope around tree and neck, but family came home so didn't proceed. For the first time since this all began I welcomed an end to it all, had zero fear.
Just wondering how anyone else here would deal with having there life ruined in such a way and Never be able to function or have extremely low quality of life living in constant eye pain and uncorrectable vision loss that prevents you from doing anything fun or going out, working dating etc.
Not looking for anyone's symphathy just honest feedback on how you would handle. Want to make sure I'm not missing something. Thanks for reading. Cheers.
TLDR:
- had life completely ruined by lasik complications.
- curious how others would handle situation
- considering suicide having exhausted all treatment options
- not looking for sympathy
I have keratoconus, which is similar to corneal ectasia. My father has had three corneal transplants, and is only now late in life actually getting decent vision for the first time ever, in his 60s.
There's always hope.
Don't let those intense moments of doom, despair, and seemingly insurmountable pain take that away from you.
04-14-2018, 12:20 PM
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Damn that's ****ed up.
I always knew it could potentially go bad just due to the eyes being one of the more sensitive areas of the body, though I never knew the particulars.
I just looked up how they do Lasik and NO THX JEFF, although I have good vision so that's easy for me to say.
Good luck OP.
I always knew it could potentially go bad just due to the eyes being one of the more sensitive areas of the body, though I never knew the particulars.
I just looked up how they do Lasik and NO THX JEFF, although I have good vision so that's easy for me to say.
Good luck OP.
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04-14-2018, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted By PatheticPeter⏩
Did that too.how about instead of god, you pm him your doctors info? just saying.
04-14-2018, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted By PoundMobb⏩
Suicide is never a rational thought. Please talk to some mental health professionals on the topic before saying so again.To anyone here mentioning OP's "depression": People get sad when life sucks; it's normal. His thoughts are completely rational.
04-14-2018, 12:25 PM
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I'm so sorry about the eye difficulties and life changes you are experiencing due to the failed surgery. I wasn't familiar about issues with LASIK surgery. Overall though I'd say there is a good amount of corruption within the medical community. There are to many examples I can thinking of, but recently was reading more about problems seen with artificial joints. Most of the surgeries done to implant artificial joints don't help patients, but that hasn't stopped the practice from being done wide spread.
I wish I had good advice to pass on about dealing with a chronic disease. I have an IBD stomach condition myself and never received much help for it. It wasn't for a lack of trying, as I went from doctor to doctor, but none were helpful. As for life changes, you will likely adapt over time. It isn't fun but it's the card drawn.
I wish I had good advice to pass on about dealing with a chronic disease. I have an IBD stomach condition myself and never received much help for it. It wasn't for a lack of trying, as I went from doctor to doctor, but none were helpful. As for life changes, you will likely adapt over time. It isn't fun but it's the card drawn.
04-14-2018, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted By seanb1979⏩
I guess all of the other religions are just SOL for being born in the wrong place.
This is about OP having a very serious problem and seeking answers for it.
I guess all of the other religions are just SOL for being born in the wrong place.
Not a debate about your worldview.
04-14-2018, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted By JohnTS1⏩
this. would be nice to not fk around with glasses/contacts but not worth risking my livelihoodHoly fcuk.
Never getting LASIK crew. Glasses for life crew.
Sounds horrible man, I don't know what to say.
Never getting LASIK crew. Glasses for life crew.
Sounds horrible man, I don't know what to say.
04-14-2018, 12:29 PM
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OP never give up.
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Originally Posted By Critter5592⏩
I dont care about religion until people start suggesting that they substitute real medical care for prayers and thoughts. No. It isnt about despising anything, its about being realistic and not belittling someones condition to "Well my eyes got better so your should too."Oldheads love religion, but seems newer generations despise it
Originally Posted By fluidZ⏩
I would also advise getting counseling. OP medical field has gone so far in just a short period of time.All of those doctors, I'm sure at least one of them told you that you needed to get counseling. Please do that.
I have keratoconus, which is similar to corneal ectasia. My father has had three corneal transplants, and is only now late in life actually getting decent vision for the first time ever, in his 60s.
There's always hope.
Don't let those intense moments of doom, despair, and seemingly insurmountable pain take that away from you.
I have keratoconus, which is similar to corneal ectasia. My father has had three corneal transplants, and is only now late in life actually getting decent vision for the first time ever, in his 60s.
There's always hope.
Don't let those intense moments of doom, despair, and seemingly insurmountable pain take that away from you.
The surgery that we have had to halt the progression of cornea thinning was not even a thing before the year 2002. Now it saves tons of peoples vision. You dont know what will be available in 5... 10 years.
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04-14-2018, 12:31 PM
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fcuk i want to stop wearing contacts one day but i think i'll wait till im 40. RIP bro
04-14-2018, 12:35 PM
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dam op tough situation. thanks for the heads up though, as i had thoughts of getting this surgery, never now. i am with the people talking about stem cell for the eyes, i dont see no negative that could come from trying it if it's possible.
I have a huge pimple scar under my nose for 3 months and i kinda felt how you are feeling to be honest ( obvs not the same degree). my face feels disfigured
I have a huge pimple scar under my nose for 3 months and i kinda felt how you are feeling to be honest ( obvs not the same degree). my face feels disfigured
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04-14-2018, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted By FlexLex⏩
Your prejudice is showing.I dont care about religion until people start suggesting that they substitute real medical care for prayers and thoughts. No. It isnt about despising anything, its about being realistic and not belittling someones condition to "Well my eyes got better so your should to."
At no time did I suggest he shun medical care.
Please keep the focus on extending help to the OP. He is need of assistance not argument.
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Originally Posted By seanb1979⏩
I guess all of the other religions are just SOL for being born in the wrong place.
You're joking right? Jesus grew up in Judaism, all the disciples grew up in a area that was agasint Christianity. They were technically born in the wrongest of all places, and look what happened.
I guess all of the other religions are just SOL for being born in the wrong place.
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