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post 1549365551 04-17-2018, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted By RubberBandMang
Meh, I dont think officers should be taking shots until they either see a weapon or are in immediate danger. There's no way that guy is pulling a pistol in time, aiming, then shooting when 3 officers already are aimed right at him. Seemed a tad premature.
You apparently have never been in a tense situation like this... Because it happens quicker than you think.
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Originally Posted By Supadude
Looks like he was putting his hands up when they shot him.
The first bodycam shows him reaching and trying to pull out something in a jerking manner.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824
Feel bad for the family, not only did their kids have to see that, but the cops also shot the car and now they have to deal with the ghost of a criminal in their house.
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Originally Posted By CoolKnees
Why can't these criminals follow simple instructions? All he had to do was raise his arms and he'd still be alive today.

Not sad at all.
Sort of...how would that play out?

Hands are in your pockets. "Take your hands out of your pockets!" You take your hands out of your pockets. They think they see a weapon, and they shoot you.

It's a reasonable request on the cops' part, but there's no good way to respond to it. Obviously pacing back and forth isn't a good response. The command should be, "Get down," or "on the ground" or something like that.

Was he armed? Not monday morning quarter backing this...breaking into someone's garage, the home owner could have legally shot him all the same.
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I don't give a **** after seeing a video where a cop was shot and killed in cold blood because he reacted too slowly to a guy shooting him.

If you cannot follow basic instructions, tough chit. I thought the guy was pulling a gun out of his pocket watching it live.
Originally Posted By NuggzTheNinja
Sort of...how would that play out?

Hands are in your pockets. "Take your hands out of your pockets!" You take your hands out of your pockets. They think they see a weapon, and they shoot you.

It's a reasonable request on the cops' part, but there's no good way to respond to it. Obviously pacing back and forth isn't a good response. The command should be, "Get down," or "on the ground" or something like that.

Was he armed? Not monday morning quarter backing this...breaking into someone's garage, the home owner could have legally shot him all the same.
What are you talking about? His hands were not in his pockets, the cops asked him to put his hands over his head, he raised one, then shoved one into his pocket and pulled it out in a jerky motion.

The cops are suppose to wait a second to confirm its a gun, then have 2 bullets in their chest before they have time to react?
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Originally Posted By GnarlySheen
It takes 1 ****ing second to draw and shoot. Cops dont have time for that **** bro, get real.
regardless it says nothing about the suspect being armed in the description, so he clearly wasn't. As a previous poster said, it looks like he's attempting to put his hands up and was probably tripping since he a young urban youth. Cops got a report of him stealing from a cell phone store at a mall and he had fled. Stealing likely doesnt mean he's gonna shoot a cop. I dunno, different opinions, they were a tad trigger happy methinks.
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Originally Posted By stevemckenna
The first bodycam shows him reaching and trying to pull out something in a jerking manner.
Check out 2:40ish bodycam. You can clearly see how many opportunities the guy how to put em up.
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Dude was walking around, no regard to directions by police officers, dude acted like he was cooked
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Originally Posted By RubberBandMang
Meh, I dont think officers should be taking shots until they either see a weapon or are in immediate danger.There's no way that guy is pulling a pistol in time, aiming, then shooting when 3 officers already are aimed right at him.Seemed a tad premature.
ORLY? Watch this you fuking pleb.



Also the only thing premature is your birth and you when you are near a woman.
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Originally Posted By RubberBandMang
Meh, I dont think officers should be taking shots until they either see a weapon or are in immediate danger. There's no way that guy is pulling a pistol in time, aiming, then shooting when 3 officers already are aimed right at him. Seemed a tad premature.
How do they know he wasn't reaching for a gun when he had his hand in his pocket? He had plenty of time to put his hands up. There's been some cases of cops shooting prematurely, but this ain't one of them
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Originally Posted By NuggzTheNinja
Sort of...how would that play out?
In this instance? He would have raised his hands and been taken into custody.

He was told multiple times to put his hands up before his right hand ever went to his pocket.
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Originally Posted By IronKrazy
ORLY? Watch this you fuking pleb.



Also the only thing premature is your birth and you when you are near a woman.
Haha, why the fuk are you so mad, what's wrong with you u little autist. Say that to my face and not online and see what happens phgt.

Completely different set of circumstances in the clip you showed btw, the cops can't see the guy at all.
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Originally Posted By RubberBandMang
Rofl, thank god i dont live in America. BRB any encounter with cops where they cant see your hands you getting killed. Would be afraid of routine traffic stops
In Canada, you have zero protection is someone breaks into your garage.
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post 1549366981 04-17-2018, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted By RubberBandMang
Haha, why the fuk are you so mad, what's wrong with you u little autist. Say that to my face and not online and see what happens phgt.

Completely different set of circumstances in the clip you showed btw, the cops can't see the guy at all.
And they also can't see what his hand is holding in his pocket... It just shows how quickly someone can pull out a weapon and begin firing.
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post 1549367131 04-17-2018, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted By Kiknskreem
In this instance? He would have raised his hands and been taken into custody.

He was told multiple times to put his hands up before his right hand ever went to his pocket.
Screengrab of his right hand ever being out of his pocket? I watched this a few times and don't see it.
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Originally Posted By metallicide
And they also can't see what his hand is holding in his pocket... It just shows how quickly someone can pull out a weapon and begin firing.
Rofl, dudes actions were entirely hidden by a vehicle and he could easily be jumping out to surrender... different circumstance. They had this guy dead to rights with 3 guns aimed at his face.

Was this one justified too ?

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If that house didn't have a garage, that man would still be alive today.

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Originally Posted By RubberBandMang
Rofl, thank god i dont live in America. BRB any encounter with cops where they cant see your hands you getting killed. Would be afraid of routine traffic stops
You realize they have to shoot them because some ******* hides his hand in his pocket and has killed a cop before, they dont just get this way for no reason.
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Originally Posted By NuggzTheNinja
Screengrab of his right hand ever being out of his pocket? I watched this a few times and don't see it.
Go to 2:40, you can see he had plenty of opportunities to communicate and comply with the officers. He also clearly put his right hand back into his pocket like a fkn moron.
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Originally Posted By RubberBandMang
Rofl, dudes actions were entirely hidden by a vehicle and he could easily be jumping out to surrender... different circumstance. They had this guy dead to rights with 3 guns aimed at his face.

Was this one justified too ?

Who the fuk "jumps out" to surrender when you have cops pointing guns at you telling you to put your hands up so you put one up and keep the other suspiciously tucked away in your pants... Damn you are a moron lol.
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Originally Posted By IronKrazy
Urine idiot. That guy should die regardless. You break into a house with intent do ANY thing, steal, hurt, kill. Don't matter. You should be shot on site. The cops were VERY disciplined and showed patience with this POS. He was told numerous times to put his hands up and it only takes a FRACTION of second for the suspect to draw and start firing. Whether he gets one or all. Remember the action is faster than the reaction.

So yeah I'm glad you don't live here either. We don't need any pussified Euro's over here. So fuk off we're full anyway.
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Originally Posted By GnarlySheen
Go to 2:40, you can see he had plenty of opportunities to communicate and comply with the officers.
I'm not seeing his right hand anywhere but in his pocket, which was the original point of my post. If you have a screen cap showing his right hand out of his pocket, I'd like to see it.

FWIW IDGAF that cops shot this guy...the homeowners should have done it before they even arrived.
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Originally Posted By RubberBandMang
Haha, why the fuk are you so mad, what's wrong with you u little autist. Say that to my face and not online and see what happens phgt.

Completely different set of circumstances in the clip you showed btw, the cops can't see the guy at all.
It's still the element of surprise. Even with guns drawn, the suspect had the advantage of being the first to react AND being behind an object or with cover. My point is watch how quick it happens. He even landed shots to the officer's chest.

That intruder in the OP's video could have drawn, ducked down and kept firing away aimlessly until he hit something or someone. The officers a few feet away or the innocent people he frightened with the bullets going through the drywall. The situation was so severe that ANY extra hesitation by the officers and things could have went down hill extremely fast. So many variables in OP's video it ain't even funny bro.

And by bro, I mean never my bro you Euro ****git.
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Originally Posted By RubberBandMang
Yeah, i mean i would probably do the same thing if i were a cop in the states knowing that basically anyone can be armed. Here in Canada you're safe to assume the brah you're arresting does not have a gun.
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Originally Posted By NuggzTheNinja
Sort of...how would that play out?

Hands are in your pockets. "Take your hands out of your pockets!" You take your hands out of your pockets. They think they see a weapon, and they shoot you.

It's a reasonable request on the cops' part, but there's no good way to respond to it. Obviously pacing back and forth isn't a good response. The command should be, "Get down," or "on the ground" or something like that.

Was he armed? Not monday morning quarter backing this...breaking into someone's garage, the home owner could have legally shot him all the same.
Watching it the first time live I would have shot him too. The guy raised one hand while keeping one in his waistband. He didn't respond verbally a single time, and paced one time back and forth. I mean shiet dude you have guns pointed on you how about standing in one spot and verbally respond saying you are slowing going to raise your hands up. This is a classic game of play stupid games.
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Originally Posted By NuggzTheNinja
Screengrab of his right hand ever being out of his pocket? I watched this a few times and don't see it.
Start at 2:40. Video isn't crystal clear but appears his hand is free from his pocket as he emerges from his crouch then goes to the pocket moments later.
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Originally Posted By chalup
Watching it the first time live I would have shot him too. The guy raised one hand while keeping one in his waistband. He didn't respond verbally a single time, and paced one time back and forth. I mean shiet dude you have guns pointed on you how about standing in one spot and verbally respond saying you are slowing going to raise your hands up. This is a classic game of play stupid games.
I would have shot him too. My point is that, if you have your hands in your pockets, there's literally no good response to "GET YOUR HANDS UP!" You're either "drawing" or "complying."
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