not everyone can be a celeb just find something you enjoy doing that way it wont suck going to work, i enjoy going to work i think if i didnt work life wouldnt be as meaningful. Dont want to have vacation 24/7

I don’t listen to joe. Probably
Because every time there’s a thread posted about something he said it’s dumb.

Easy for him to say 9-5 is lame when he’s rich and famous.

Create you own job. There is so much money out there just sitting out there for people to grab onto.

It's the boredom and working with people you don't want to be around that is the problem. Especially the latter.

The debate is solved here:

Tomorrow someone puts 10 million in your bank account.

Whatever you're currently doing, would you ever do it again? Maybe not 40 hrs/week. But would you ever do the activity, just casually for enjoyment?

If the answer is no, you are in some form of cope. Sorry, 'tis the truth.

Thats all the motivation you need.





Just lol if you are not coming home after 5 and working on your business/side hustle to eventually quit your day job/retire.

If your side hustle/business fails than fuk it you have a day job to fall on.

If it succeeds quit the day job and work full time on your side hustle/business.

Win-win.

Your not hungry enough to succeed to eventually retire. if you have no kids no wife you got a lot of time to get things done when you come back home. Whats y'all excuse?

yes, why work when u have 10 mil.

.What the phuck kind of post is this? Lmao.

The only thing I would do if I had 10 million in the bank is fish and since fishing for a living is just a dream save for a miniscule number of people, your post is pretty nonsensical.

It doesnt matter what I do. It literally makes zero difference to the whole of this thread / my point / my posts.

You dont SEE the opportunity. You FIND the opportunity and then exploit it / maximize it. I've had loads of different jobs and have been hustlin since I was about 13-14 years old. I could literally write a book on all the business ventures I've done. For instance, when I was 16 - I used to work at a small local airfield at a flying school to help pay towards my pilots license. I then started washing rich dudes planes and was charging like £300-400 for a full clean inside and out, which took around 5-6 hours. My only competition was a team of some Eastern European guys who were doing it for a job, so these old pilot dudes wanted to help out a teenager, as all the money I earned from it was going towards my flight training. Fast forward, I started doing this at 3-4 different airfields, each with like 3-7 hangars and around 10-20 planes in each hangar. I then started getting busy, so I contacted my school friends to help me out. Then I had one of my first business ventures. Cleaning planes was boring and time consuming. So I asked my buddies how much they wanted to clean the planes and they said £100. So I was charging £300-400, giving them £100 and then spending my day studying for school, whilst making some decent money for a 16 year old, who was effectively just running payroll/advertising.

This is just one of the many things ive done.

When i was like 17-18, I wrote down 10 hobbies of mine and i set out to make £10,000 from each hobby. I figured that would net me £100K - and it could also open up more avenues / help me network with more people. I did photography, art, fitness, online ecommerce, cycling, aviation - and a bunch of other things. Very quickly, I realised that one of these particular avenues was extremely profitable for me - so I went balls deep in that and the rest is history.

I then spent 6 years or so working for a digital marketing / advertising / web dev. agency with some massive brands, which helped me enormously in getting my name out there for what im currently doing.

100% there are miserable 30-40 year olds who are struggling and persuing their dreams. I didnt say there arent. I'm just saying that they lack the skillset/lack of study / lack of work ethic / lack of self motivation - whatever the fuk it is that they are lacking, which is the reason for their suffering.

I am (if you havent noticed) an EXTREMELY logical/analytical thinker. If you do the same chit over and over again and expect different results - that is retarded. I break down my life with tons of spreadsheets, databases, calculations and so on, to ensure success.

If something I am doing is failing, I bring up every possible fukin scenerio as to why it is failing and then go over each one in insane detail to fix it and see if that solves my problem. I blame this level of OCD on my programming background.


The average 9-5er absolutely cannot bank £2M+ Networth in sub 10 years. For starters, nobody fukin workers 9-5. Even receptionists dont work 9-5. Its nearly always 8-6 or 8-8 and the higher corporate you go, the longer hours it is. The only way to accumulate mass wealth in a short period of time is working for yourself and cutting out the middle man. Otherwise, I guess you have to go Medical (goodluck working 90hours + a week, **** starting pay + 7 years in college and student debts), Banking (same as medical), engineering (Dont know what involved in this) or law (same as medical/banking), or Sales.

Not everyone can be successful / rich, due to tons of reasons. Nature and nurture. Low IQ, Lack of education, lack of work ethic, lack of motivation, perhaps they had kids early who require lots of time, perhaps they have huge debts - whatever the fuk it is.
However, if youre posting on the misc, I dont see why you cant have an extremely good shot at doing so.I absolutely do not believe that luck has anything to do with it. Nobody came and knocked on my door and presented me with an opportunity. I studied hard, read up loads, failed quite a few businesses and then something took off for me.

I have luck in the sense that some days, some of my clients will call me up and give me a massive order - but then at what point is this luck - and at what point is this a result of the countless hours of time I've given them to help build up the relationship so that they come back to me time and time again.

Like, I make myself available 24/7/365 to my clients. They have my personal cell number. I will wake up in the middle of the night to deal with them. I will answer calls on holiday. I remember every tiny minute detail about them, so I can maximise conversational ability with them. I remember their hobbies. I send them gifts that cater to their desires - and so on. None of this is luck. Its the result of being hugely analytical, working hard and being consistent.

For my industry, I charge one of the highest rates - because I am offering a bespoke service to seriously high end professionals - people you guys would probably have even heard of. I can get away with charging these rates because I offer the best service and go above and beyond my competitors.

This isnt luck. Luck is a cope.

The bill gates analogy is an invalid point because hes a billionaire / one of the richest men in the world. Do you think its that hard to become a millionaire? Do you even know how many millionaires there are in the world? Theres a lot. Most people who live (own houses) in London are millionaires.

I understand that a lot of you who read my posts think "aw this kid just got lucky / hes lying / he doesnt realise hes lucky" - or all that ****. I promise you thats not the case in the slightest. Anyone can do it. If you dont think you can do it - then youre right, you probably cant.

If you're not even going to pick up a book / study or TRY to take a risk on setting up a business venture - then youre 100% not going to make it.

So many negative nancys here. Unbelievable .Each to their own, but personally I would always carry on working. But hey, if I was working in corporate / rat race or doing something I didnt enjoy, then of course Id dump it.

If I was an artist, fisherman, carpenter, musician, athlete - or was doing something I really enjoyed, of course I would.

In the next 5-10 years or so, I am looking to write my own cartoon (along the lines of family guy / rick and morty / american dad) , but do all the voices with me and my buddies. I think it would be great fun and a good laugh to do it. Will host it on youtube. Thats the kind of work I want to be doing. If it takes off, fantastic - if it doesnt - at least we had fun.



Getting a lot of you PM me (which is totally cool). If you guys want things to look into, I suggest the following:

Fight Mediocrity videos on YouTube ( I think hes actually a miscer?) - basically book summaries, which are really good and informative.

Books:
4 Hour Work Week - Tim Ferris
Millionaire Fastlane - MJ Demarco (**** title, but its a good book)
7 Habits of highly effective people - Stephen Convey
Meditations - Marcus Aurelius (really interesting concept about stoicism)


This whole thread really reminds me of two distinct divides - which can be summarised by this video

You're one of the few people who understands what joe is trying to say in 4 minutes(which is almost impossible). And people who are bashing him for appealing to masses or some other chit, haters will always hate. I personally admire him for his work ethic, what he has achieved and how and his knowledge and exploration in areas other than "lets fuk bitches, lets work, lets buy a house, let's talk about how steve at the office is a jerk" etc. Dude has average to advanced knowledge in so many different topics its pretty admirable.

I also work in a steel alloy mill, we just got in a 70 million dollar project. Apparently proudmanlet needs a new jock strap, you should see the blueprints on this thing, the engineering is absolutely marvelous. At first I thought they found a real life Ultrasaurus still alive somewhere and needed a housing for it, but no that was not the case.

People whine about a 9-5 office job when that's paradise for most of the world. Not everyone will be able to smoke cones, talk into a mic and still be a millionaire. The problem with many humans is they all think they deserve something special when they themselves are not.

So you would rather not to seek you ultimate potential simply because you have it better than some starving african children? that makes no sense.

Strong point.

There are times when I really, really, really, wish I was naturally interested in STEM, accounting, or one of these fields that pays especially well. But unfortunately I have a bit of a feminine psychology when it comes to work, which is to say I'm interested in fields that women like to work in which usually pay pittance. The end result is that I second guess myself a lot concerning potential career paths, because even though I may enjoy the work I'm worried I'll be struggling with financial security for the rest of my life.

Lol @ bragging about a factory job...



The honest life of a steel mill worker:

"I wasn't smart/educated/motived enough to do anything of note, so life placed me in a steel mill. I destroy my body, and waste the best years of my life sweating for an hourly wage. My wife is secretly disappointed in herself for settling for a nobody like me, and her parents know she could do better... but I don't even realize it because I am so tired from work.

When my kids see their friends dad come home in a suit and tie... they get embarrassed and never bring me up in conversations. I think "my ship will come in... I'll carry the clipboard one day"....



But the truth is... I'll die nameless in a steel mill, and my kids will go to college motivated by the fear of every becoming me."

Truth? lol...

unfortunately not everyone is born rich, so learn to adapt, get an education, work hard, set goals, achieve them or you can just give-up because its "too hard" or because you "didnt like it"

some people have no idea how good they have it

I've legit got so many negs / salty PMs from my posts in this thread ... Dead.jpg

Instead of people reading my posts and taking advice or realizing that their not reaching their potential - they are just laying into me lolol

So much cope.

Spoon pic of $2 million house, because my bullchit detector went mental reading your post.

Bro not everyone is as entrepeneurial as you. After seeing you post all your business ideas and **** on here for the last few months, I can assure you that not everyone has that gift. When other people hear about it, it probably shines a lot on their own inadequacies.

Joe ROgan is a lost man..he's got money..he dont have to worry about much anymore. 9-5 is life. Get over it guys. Never in history have so many "MEN" turned into a bunch of whinny bi^&* and moaning "why me" sissy mamas boys..People before you have killed themselves to make our country great..NOW over the last 20-25 years its all been for nothing. Get off your high horses.Quit feeling entitled.. YOU HAVE TO WORK. YOU HAVE TO SWEAT. YOU HAVE TO WORK when TOLD not when you WANT. You dont get to have your weekends off OR holidays. You are not 10 years old and in school. Grow up and get a set. People are embarrassing these days and no wonder every country thinks we are weak and stupid..OH and happy Taco Tuesday!

people are ruined by all these reality TV bs, they think they deserve to just exist without contributing to society. For sure less whining 30 years ago even i dont think you have to back that far.

unless you gullibly throw yourself at companies that make sure the value you create is as unevenly redistributed as possible

and it only works because people are ready to "contribute". there is no critical thinking involved. it works because these people can't tell absolute from relative change. that's why fraudulent schemes work. exactly because of that. Of course there is also the thing that people want "recognition" from their superiors but isn't that the same scheme you find in gangs or criminal organizations? And does it ever end well for most of those people who seek recognition so they can advance their position within the organization? No. Management wants you working for your azz off and expects you to modestly follow. Promotion or pay-rise is an unspoken promise/pipe dream that is fulfilled only for a small percentage of people. Yet these unspoken promises/pipe dreams are the reason most people gullibly stick with companies.

The only group within a company that finds fulfillment both emotionally and value-wise is management. Everyone else is a pawn. A lot of people find their meaning in working in office and being a "pawn". I personally don't understand it. It just seems like an insane waste of potential, like voluntarily stripping yourself off of your soul and individuality. Could you tell whether this kind of mentality has ever been recorded within an historically positive context? 9-5 seems like a nightmare for me personally. Before I starve and have no other choice than to do that, I will try to find whatever I can to be a substitute for this unfulfilling kind of existence. I mean could you imagine how lucky you are to be a human being? To be the most intelligent species humanly conceivable? Why would you literally strip yourself off of everything evolution has endowed you with through millions of years? Just toss it away? That's ****ing nihilism right there.

biggest cope ive ever heard in my life. Utter lay down and rot.

I feel the same way. I wish I had a real good job...I know exactly how he feels...I feel like I'm dying.

It's because that guy doesn't have kids. If he had kids, he'd find the need to find a "stable job". The problem is that these days with the layoffs and the kind of turnover there is, there is no such thing anymore.

"I dunno know if he is even still alive or dead.".

Jeeeesus. Wth happened between Henry Rollins and his fam?

Rollins was born in Washington, D.C., the only child of Iris and Paul Garfield.[5][6][7][8] Rollins is of Jewish ancestry through his father. His great-grandfather Henry Luban (born Henach Luban) fled from the East Latvian town of Rēzekne, then part of the Russian Empire, into the United States.[9] When he was three years old, his parents divorced and he was raised by his mother in Glover Park, an affluent neighborhood of Washington.[5][10][11][12] As a child and teenager, Rollins was sexually assaulted.[13] He suffered from depression and low self-esteem.[14] In the fourth grade, he was diagnosed with hyperactivity and took Ritalin for several years so that he could focus during school. He attended The Bullis School, then an all-male preparatory school in Potomac, Maryland.[5] According to Rollins, the Bullis School helped him to develop a sense of discipline and a strong work ethic.[14] It was at Bullis that he began writing.[12] In 1987, Rollins said he had not seen his father since he was 18.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Rollins

You can thank the socialist/liberal policies in education and lack of free market on that. The fact that government controls education in America. The teachers unions that make it impossible to fire an incompetent teacher. In South Korea there is a free market in teaching. The best teachers make millions, yes millions a year. If we eliminated public education, and left education up to the private sector where it belongs then the best teachers would actually earn the value they contribute.

This. Never in the history of earth has there been more ways to ignore the 9-5 hustle than there is in 2018. You can literally pick anything, become good at it, study it, go all-in 16 hours a day and you will be successful. Millions of people are earning a good living(not talking about the outliers) on youtube, instagram, ******** pages, creating websites, investing, flipping chit on ebay/amazon/craigslist, creating workshops on udemy, photography, videos, digital marketing, consulting, fitness etc. If all you can say is "YOU HAVE TO SWEAT, YOU HAVE TO DO THIS" then you should look in the mirror as you are the coping sheep of the 21rd century. Then again a lot of people are made to work in a warehouse doing line work @ 9$/hour for 40 years so no hate. Just don't bring everyone else down who like the hustle and want to follow their goals.