I suck at being aesthetic. I used to be really REALLY fat. BTW I have taken a few philosophy classes, and you'd be surprised how similar it is to math...especially nonstandard logics. Logic basically is an area of math.

bro...are u standing behind me wtf

yea, i agree. again, i get it. crystallize information, break it down, synthesize it, apply it

there are definitely frameworks consistent with mathematics in the "breaking things down" and applying it to x that exist across all spectrums

but i still think philosophy is rather circuitous and sometimes unanswerable. whereas math is input/ output/ extremely logical, etc.

its strange, i would like to say i agree with the notion that verbal iq and mathematical iq are the same. but man, in my computer programming class. totally met people that were smart but had NO social skills. just totally fukin blase. legit like talking to a brick wall. just dry as hell

maybe it was a defunct for the specific guy im thinking of

I made a thread about social skills a while back and my argument was that social skills = being attractive...you learn to communicate with other people by getting into conversations with them and stuff...it's MUCH easier to do if you look good. So, really social skills boils down to being attractive. What you are seeing with the smelly CS nerds is people who are very inexperienced in social interaction and communication due to them being scrawny, fat, ethnic, ugly, acne ridden, whatever.

Examples of "bad social skills":

hmmm i felt that that are some women attracted to intelligence

i know a lot of dudes that aren't attractive that have social skills

i think thats prob more self esteem (or lackthereof). or perhaps bad parenting to not introduce you to certain social dynamics as you grow up more than looks

but i will agree, that looking good and getting that reinforcement is more beneficial than being hideous. still think you can develop without it though

good looking people have to persevere too

i would bet my left nut, within those pictures of the "nerds" you posted. theres AT LEAST 1 bad parent within each of them.

the child grows up in a bad environment. they arent properly conditioned. they form low self esteem

experiences and perceptions build on top of it, their interactions are formed with said low self esteem. until it amalgamates into a bigger problem

when they get older its harder for them to break out as they have formulated quite a bit of history

HOWEVER, i believe its still changeable. its just going to take more time depending on severity

You can if you get exposure early enough. But IDK...look at Jonah Hill. Guy seems to have good conversation skills, is funny, etc, but he still gets fuked with right here, and everyone laughs at him. Bad social skills here or is it just because he is fat? Let's be real. Dude handled it best way he could.

Sounds like the halo effect to me. They just look that way because of their genetics. There is no reason to believe they aren't super awesome people.

nah.. they look that way because they dont take care of themselves

all of them could have better haircuts and everything else

That's a function of wealth. A lot of people can't afford that stuff man. Haircuts, skincare products, dressing nicely all cost $. These things are superficial and have nothing to do with who they are as people. Also, I can say in my case and a lot of other obese people, when you are bullied a lot, you stop caring and start neglecting your appearance. It is a cycle. Then the world judges them even more harshly. It's a sad feedback loop.

regarding jonah hill.. im not sure what the point is? plenty of good looking people get shat on too

it was one instance.

im sure jonah has had his di*k sucked before as well.

in that situation you can bark back at sloots, but in that environment i do think he did the best thing. if he could have acted unaffected and come back stronger (without sounding butthurt) he'd probably be aight

you could flip the script but it was their tv show..

pshh i cut my own hair when i was 19. people probably have scissors. where there's a will there's a way

guarantee every single dude in there could look better. look like brad pitt? no. but better than they did

My point about Jonah Hill is that like no matter how funny and outgoing he is, he will still be treated like a poor social skills autist just due to his weight. (Actually, I just looked him up, and he has lost a ton of weight and looks pretty normal now.)They could, but as I said, it requires them to have the right mindset. Many people who have been humiliated and bullied get trapped into a cycle where they stop caring and neglect their appearance.

exactly. it all kind of plays together doesnt it? women probably like strong, resilient men (for protection)

so if said dude was humiliated, he lost esteem and gave up. doesn't exactly display the strength and resilience they seek correct?

that issue is a lot more complex than that because i believe people are kind of limited in their ability to solve that, but its still true.

thats exactly why i specified "will". im betting their will has been tested, and somewhere along the way they lost.

further, i will admit that i was presumptuous about judging their appearance, but i still think the point stands. they aren't attractive sexually. those guys very well could have been cool, but you were presenting them as "smelly, tech nerds with poor social skills"

Lol in this post we realize that the word intelligence is entirely subjective. There is no real substance here, because you are simplydefiningtrue intelligence to be what you stated (in other words, there is no fact being stated, shown, or proved in the above post, but instead a definition- which of course is arbitrary). Ironically, knowing the difference between definitions and assertions, a mathematical notion, is indeed at play here.

As to the importance of high paying jobs, acquiring fame, getting sloots to like you......hey if these are your only goals, cool story man. It turns out though that many of our most brilliant thinkers in history were not overly obsessed with such things, but instead were very much concerned with the advancement of knowledge for knowledge's sake (yes this is possible believe it or not)- to further in what small way they could the story of humankind, a pretty respectable pursuit. Individuals like Socrates, Archimedes, Newton (when he was doing his important work, before becoming master of the mint), and more recently names like Riemann, Cantor, and Paul Erdos (who hovered between colleagues' and friends houses and never seemed to care much about money whatsoever) come to mind, and all the unnamed scientists and professors out there, some doing their work more quietly under the radar, without the huge accolades or $$$ it could bring. I consider these people to be of the more truly intelligent variety- and on a different level than someone say just landing a high-paying job or making money trading stocks- but that is just me (and of course this is subjective).

A favorite anecdote along these lines goes way back to ancient Greece: there was a guy named Euclid who gave us the entire subject of Geometry that we study in high school today, in his series of books named the Elements. A student apparently asked him what would be gained out of studying geometry.....why even bother with it at all? Euclid's classic response, turning aside to an assistant- "Give him threepence, since he must make gain out of what he learns".

Damn...I didn't even really catch that. You think she was mad and that was why she said that? But she fired the first shot still.math crew

i definitely think jonah hill could get laid (non celebrity and just using his personality) if he brings a little aggression to a party or something. despite his fatness as you said

the self-deprecation stuff wouldn't work. but his funniness would

The mentally strongest, most resilient person you ever meet is more likely to be some ugly or fat dude than some Chad. Chad doesn't experience any hardship compared to these guys. These guys take all the chit and keep going bro. Most normal people go a month without sex and start popping happy pills or planning shooting sprees. These guys go their whole lives without ever touching a vagina, being passed over for promotions, being shunned by people, and have the mental fortitude not to blow everyone up. That takes a lot of resilience.

lol she probably does tho...

but yea I see what you mean...

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Here we can see how a manlet turned Chad reacts to a hostile interview. He just tells him directly interview is over and leaves.

nah, i think they'd solve their problems.

i think humans are a needs species so create problems no matter what. those that are resilient solve them and move onto the next, those that are not revel in their sorrow and get stuck in development

being good looking comes with a different set of problems. or even something like a professional athlete.

certainly, there are probably different levels to this and severity, but nonetheless they are still problems.

a good looking person wont know if people actually like them or use them for their looks (why hot chicks are usually insecure). and a professional athlete or someone with money wont know if people befriend them or date them because they want their money..

so, yes, magnitudes are probably different but maybe not depending on interpretation. still problems

This guy was swimming in pussy..



Let that sink in.

What do you think of Steve Wozniak versus Steve Jobs?

My opinion is that well rounded intelligent people seek out a well rounded quality of life. Sure autistic hermit savants have plenty of areas of expertise where they outsmart others. Why would that be attractive though? It’s unfair to use those types of people to say women aren’t interested in smart men.

I’m speaking as a mechanical engineer in the tech industry, so I understand both types of people pretty well.

That's not true.

Many women go for the "bad boy" so they can shape and control him. That's because women like that want to be the man in the relationship and control things.

They can only get that with a weak male who is out of control and led around like a child.

So, strength isn't something lots of women seek out, it's control so they have the strength.

wincel how can I use advanced mathematics to pull 8s and 9s?

Yes I would. Outside of looksmaxing, learning evolutionary biology, and social psychology I want to add mathematics to my gameinteresting but I'm on an online dating purge at the moment

Easy. Change your scale from 1-10 to 1-100.

But who was excitement from not being able to control them?

How many women do you know that get bored in their marriage, relationship, etc.?

dawwwww <3I was too lol