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post 1555235101 07-02-2018, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted By cobhc
No offense but your frame of reference basically applies to a small part of the lower middle class.You know most people who don't "suck" with money never pay for their cars in full?Unless they're Floyd Mayweather or purchasing them for a collection.
Then they suck with money. The stats don't lie either:

"A similar 2016 GOBankingRates survey found that 69 percent of Americans had less than $1,000 in total savings and 34 percent had no savings at all."

"GALLUP - Average American Owes $2,900 in Credit Card Debt"


brb... not even $1000 in savings but financing a car. Logic not even once....
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EVERYBODY judges the next person by the car they drive.

Whatever they drive, tells you SOMETHING about that person. If someone drives a Camry, they're going to be a different kind of person then someone who drives a v8 charger.

That means JUDGEMENT, you phuktards
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Honestly yes I do. Obviously there are exceptions, but this is what I assume based on my life experience so far

Mustang/charger etc - douchebag who's bad with money
Bmw/audi etc - middle class goober trying to keep up with the jones
Lambo/ferrari - either a dumbass or actually rich
Giant jacked up truck - micropenis
Subaru/prius/crossover/hatchback - soyboys who like men
Scion - millennials who think they're cool but can't afford an actual nice car
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Originally Posted By faxanadu
Then they suck with money. The stats don't lie either:

"A similar 2016 GOBankingRates survey found that 69 percent of Americans had less than $1,000 in total savings and 34 percent had no savings at all."

"GALLUP - Average American Owes $2,900 in Credit Card Debt"
Like I said, your frame of reference/scope of knowledge is limited to the lower middle class, no offense.

Call up your local McLaren/Lamborghini dealership and ask how often the cars get leased/financed vs paid in full.

Unless you're buying a simple car that you plan on driving for a very long time, paying in full usually makes zero sense.
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Instinct would make me think nicer car = richer person. But given the chance to think about it I wouldn't necessarily make that association unless it were clearly 60k+. We all know how much used Benz' and BMW's cost.

I see so many brokbois (I know where they work and what they make) driving luxury cars that I've learned nice car =/= rich. If I know roughly what they make and they're driving a car I feel to be "beyond" their means I would judge and think negatively of them for being materialistic, trying to stunt when they are poor and making bad financial decisions.

Also not going to lie if I see a woman in a balling ass car I assume her sugar daddy or husband owns or bought it for her.
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Absolutely but more by the condition of the car. Cleanliness of the interior. Amount of damage. Stupid looking bumper stickers. Etc.


Also when I see an older guy (25+) in a beater I tend to think he's probably a slacker or a loser. Lets be real, 99% of people out there aren't budget minded driving a beater to save money. They are driving the best they can afford.


Originally Posted By faxanadu
If you don't buy a car in full then you most likely suck with money. 99% of the time the wiser choice is to budget for whatever you can afford, buy it, and put what you would of paid in monthly payments on a new car into an account. Then, when the time comes, you sell the chitbox, add the money from that + the money you would of spent on car payments, and go buy a better chitbox.

There is a reason why people like Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, and Warren Buffett drive chitboxes.
My only problem with that is the only value money has is to buy things and the security it provides. Yes its good to be smart financially, but at a certain point it all has to be for something.


Life is very fragile and fleeting. You can live on an intense budget and scrimp every single penny for years only to die before you spend or get a chance to enjoy your wealth/retirement. Its important to plan for the future, but it may never come. There are people in their 20s and 30s that die every single day in some kind of violent manner, from accidents, crashes, sudden medical issues, etc.



At a certain point you have to do the things you want, as long as its within reason. Some people don't want a miserable existence commuting from A to B in a chit-box. My primary means of transportation is a motorcycle. I can have the time of my life going from point A to point B. Even in the very least I don't mind spending 2-3hrs riding somewhere. After that kind of experience I can completely understand why people want to drive a vehicle that they enjoy/have fun in.
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No i judge people based on their looks, hence i will always look down on ugly short dudes like Thai Loppezz no matter how much he tries to compensate with
expensive cars lol..
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Absolfkinglutely.

Truckers driving without a load in the bed are POS.

Drivers in terrible beaters are POS.

Non Luxury sedan drivers are POS.
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Originally Posted By cobhc
Like I said, your frame of reference/scope of knowledge is limited to the lower middle class, no offense.

Call up your local McLaren/Lamborghini dealership and ask how often the cars get leased/financed vs paid in full.

Unless you're buying a simple car that you plan on driving for a very long time, paying in full usually makes zero sense.
You couldn't be further from the truth about my scope of knowledge.

It also seems like you're assuming that someone who leases a McLaren is good with their money. Mike Tyson managed to blow half a billion dollars. The number of professional athletes that have done similar things while driving fancy cars is staggering.

Leasing a new car and financing a new car are unquestionably worse monetarily than buying a chitbox outright that already had its depreciation hit. There is absolutely no refute of that.
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Originally Posted By guest89
My only problem with that is the only value money has is to buy things and the security it provides. Yes its good to be smart financially, but at a certain point it all has to be for something.


Life is very fragile and fleeting. You can live on an intense budget and scrimp every single penny for years only to die before you spend or get a chance to enjoy your wealth/retirement. Its important to plan for the future, but it may never come. There are people in their 20s and 30s that die every single day in some kind of violent manner, from accidents, crashes, sudden medical issues, etc.



At a certain point you have to do the things you want, as long as its within reason. Some people don't want a miserable existence commuting from A to B in a chit-box. My primary means of transportation is a motorcycle. I can have the time of my life going from point A to point B. Even in the very least I don't mind spending 2-3hrs riding somewhere. After that kind of experience I can completely understand why people want to drive a vehicle that they enjoy/have fun in.
None of that dismiss the fact that is still a poor monetary decision.

From my personal experience, being debt free is far more valuable and mentally rewarding than the small amount of vanity joy gained from driving around in a nice car you can't afford. And here is the thing... nobody is saying you can't have a nice car. You can still save and buy a bad ass used car that someone else willingly already took the depreciation hit on.
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Originally Posted By faxanadu
If they have a nice car I just assume they suck with money. Why Because most people suck with money and cars are the most obvious outward sign of this.

Nothing makes me cringe harder than someone that says, "Hey I bought a car!" Oh really? You have the title? No? I guess you didn't really buy it then.


I prefer driving a chitbox. Why?

- Paid for
- Paid for
- Paid for
- Nobody is going to steal it
- Give zero fuks if some idiot kid door dings it
- Give almost zero fuks if it gets hit
I think there is some truth here, however, if everyone could buy ONLY with cash, we would see a much different outcome.
People may think I financed my car, but its completely paid off. However, when I see an $80k Benz parked outside, most of the time I would think it's financed but I could be completely wrong.

I agree though that having a nice car has its setbacks from people around you being lazy, hitting it, or just being jealous of what you have that they don't.
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I dont really value cars that much. i have always driven a beater and always will.

I would like a nicer car but dont want to pay the payments so there we have it. I dont care what car people drive, i like to look at cool cars like every other guy but have zero intention of buying one.
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lol at caring about something that constantly depreciates
dat consumerism



some of you sound absolutely pathetic tbh, if you can afford a nice car and own one then that's great, if you can't that's great too, as long as you have goals and ambitions, good values and aren't a scum bag -- those are how I judge. Not everyone starts life in a good home with money behind them, there are a lot of good people at different stages in life.
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Originally Posted By cjmadscientist
no, but I judge them on how they maintain their car (i.e. if there's garbage all inside, unorganized, etc.)
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I do indeed judge, but mostly to LOL @ people who are buried in debt and car payments

brb I've got "nice" stuff
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more so judge if their car is clean or trashy inside, says alot about a person


























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Originally Posted By RealAesthetic
lol at caring about something that constantly depreciates
dat consumerism
Its not though. Depreciation is the cost of driving something exhilarating and it is well worth it. The experience of buying the perfect car (given your circumstances) and then customizing it to make it your own is hard to describe, you really need to experience it to understand it.

Sure, some guys buy cars just to show off but I rarely meet these people (mostly because they never drive their cars).

The guys I do run into are car fanatics that know every single detail about their car and enjoy driving the absolute piss out of them. They also want to know every detail about your car.
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Originally Posted By katya422
Agree some on bumper stickers/lots of damage.

Mostly I just think "huh, wonder what that's about" when I see someone that has a car that doesn't seem to fit them - like a tiny petite woman with a huge SUV, or a large muscular man with a teeny econo car.
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Originally Posted By faxanadu
Then they suck with money. The stats don't lie either:

"A similar 2016 GOBankingRates survey found that 69 percent of Americans had less than $1,000 in total savings and 34 percent had no savings at all."

"GALLUP - Average American Owes $2,900 in Credit Card Debt"


brb... not even $1000 in savings but financing a car. Logic not even once....
So what if I don't suck at managing money and $500/month payment is not even a full day of work for me? I like cars and I love the feeling of rev matching going to second around a turn and munching it to get away from traffic (stupid California merging turn lanes). I could drop $60k and own the car, but way more fiscally responsible for me to finance it (800+ credit) and use that money to invest in my future (and have a fun toy). Sure it it would be better to buy $1000 Honda for cash. But you only get a few times around the block and you don't ever know when the ride is going to end so should have some fun while you can.
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Originally Posted By yabbayabba
So what if I don't suck at managing money and $500/month payment is not even a full day of work for me? I like cars and I love the feeling of rev matching going to second around a turn and munching it to get away from traffic (stupid California merging turn lanes). I could drop $60k and own the car, but way more fiscally responsible for me to finance it (800+ credit) and use that money to invest in my future (and have a fun toy). Sure it it would be better to buy $1000 Honda for cash. But you only get a few times around the block and you don't ever know when the ride is going to end so should have some fun while you can.
Mathematically speaking... is it better to finance a new car or get a used one outright? If you can get better than a steady 20% return by investing the money held back by borrowing... then go for it. If not, then it is a bad monetary decision.

The fact that you like bad ass cars doesn't negate lighting money on fire.
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