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post 1555354561 07-03-2018, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted By tunafishha
Why didn't the little fkrs go back the way they came in after sensing that they were lost?
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Originally Posted By NukYavlen
Why anyone would go 1 mile deep in a cave is beyond me.
Play stupid games...
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Not sure if asked before but where are they pooping? won't they get sick with all the **** around them
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Originally Posted By baroni01
Not sure if asked before but where are they pooping? won't they get sick with all the **** around them
They've been eating it to stay alive
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Originally Posted By baroni01
Not sure if asked before but where are they pooping? won't they get sick with all the **** around them
You realize they're surrounded by 1 mil gallons of water right?
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What I don't quite understand is why is spelunking taking priority over swimming lessons for kids in these countries?

Blows my fukking mind.
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp
What I don't quite understand is why is spelunking taking priority over swimming lessons for kids in these countries?

Blows my fukking mind.
Im guessing they were just near the entrance of the cave, but crazy rain waters started flooding and they couldnt get out. They kept going back deeper into the cave to avoid the rising water

Poor kids hope they make it!
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I feel bad for these kids...hope they have a way of getting them food and keeping them clean. Otherwise, they will likely get sick.
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Originally Posted By menseks
i'm all for doing cool things, but fukk spelunking.


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Just reading about this case gives me sweaty palms guys. Fukk that. How can some people survive that long with such impaired levels of risk assessment?
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Originally Posted By Aristotelian
Just reading about this case gives me sweaty palms guys. Fukk that. How can some people survive that long with such impaired levels of risk assessment?
They got trapped in because of the rain water, and had to go deeper to search for higher ground. It's not like they just decided hurr durr let's go as far in as we can.
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Originally Posted By wincel
They got trapped in because of the rain water, and had to go deeper to search for higher ground. It's not like they just decided hurr durr let's go as far in as we can.
Did you read the case before commenting on my post? Here's the summary:

Enter a complex cave network that can be (partially) flooded if it rains enough.
Enter the cave during the rainy season.

Profit?

"Tham Luang cave is a sprawling complex beneath the Doi Nang Non mountain on the border between Thailand and Myanmar.[5] The system is 10 kilometres (6.2 mi) long,and one of the most difficult cave systems to navigate due to narrow passages and winding tunnels. A sign advising against entering the caves during the rainy season (July–November) is posted at the entrance.[6]

On 23 June 2018, a group of twelve boys aged between 11 and 16 from a local junior football team, Moo Pa (meaning "wild boar"), went missing after setting out to explore the cave with their 25-year-old coach. The thirteen people appeared to have been stranded in the dark tunnels by a sudden and continuous downpour after they entered the cave.[7] A ranger of the Department of National Parks alerted authorities of the missing boys after seeing their unclaimed belongings at the cave entrance."

Yeah, a downpour on the verge of the rainy season, in a complex cave network vulnerable to flooding. That's why I commented on their risk assessment capabilities - hope that's clearer now.
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Originally Posted By Aristotelian
Did you read the case before commenting on my post? Here's the summary:

Enter a complex cave network that can be (partially) flooded if it rains enough.
Enter the cave during the rainy season.

Profit?

"Tham Luang cave is a sprawling complex beneath the Doi Nang Non mountain on the border between Thailand and Myanmar.[5] The system is 10 kilometres (6.2 mi) long,and one of the most difficult cave systems to navigate due to narrow passages and winding tunnels. A sign advising against entering the caves during the rainy season (July–November) is posted at the entrance.[6]

On 23 June 2018, a group of twelve boys aged between 11 and 16 from a local junior football team, Moo Pa (meaning "wild boar"), went missing after setting out to explore the cave with their 25-year-old coach. The thirteen people appeared to have been stranded in the dark tunnels by a sudden and continuous downpour after they entered the cave.[7] A ranger of the Department of National Parks alerted authorities of the missing boys after seeing their unclaimed belongings at the cave entrance."

Yeah, a downpour on the verge of the rainy season, in a complex cave network vulnerable to flooding. That's why I commented on their risk assessment capabilities - hope that's clearer now.
They should have followed the sign, but if you think that implies they have extraordinarily impaired levels of risk assessment, I would argue it's about on par with having oral sex in a university lab. People, like you, do similarly stupid chit all the time. Instead of being a dick about it, you could just show some compassion for the situation and leave it at that. I've noticed a common trend where the most outwardly "PMA" people are also the most caustic.
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Originally Posted By wincel
They should have followed the sign, but if you think that implies they have extraordinarily impaired levels of risk assessment, I would argue it's about on par with having oral sex in a university lab. People, like you, do similarly stupid chit all the time. Instead of being a dick about it, you could just show some compassion for the situation and leave it at that. I've noticed a common trend where the most outwardly "PMA" people are also the most caustic.
Strong reading comprehension and general understanding this morning, wincel.

It's not 'just a sign'. It's about the fact that: they are Thai; they entered a well known complex cave network toThai peopleduring the rainy season understood byThai people, by theirThai Coach. Quit the rhetoric here. They knew there were risks entering at that time. It's not about 'a sign'. That's where risk assessment comes in.

You're bitter but you have a good memory. So you equate a soccer team and their coach entering a complex cave vulnerable to flooding during their national rainy season with me getting a blowjob from a female STEM hottie in an empty university lab? How is mine (which felt very good, btw) equivalently 'stupid chit' - did I need an international rescue effort to be organized for my hedonism? No. These kids and their coach? Yes.

That you even try to compare the two shows how bitter you are. If I expand on that and tell you that this gorgeous female student from Pakistan had a fetish for sucking me off in empty labs late at night on campus would this piss you off more? She sucked me off many times, pretty much a natural cocksucker. My knees were weak almost every time after. HNNNNGH.
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I'm claustrophobic. By now I'd be gone if I was in that cave. I get shivers in planes and lifts.
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Originally Posted By Aristotelian
Strong reading comprehension and general understanding this morning, wincel.

It's not 'just a sign'. It's about the fact that: they are Thai; they entered a well known complex cave network toThai peopleduring the rainy season understood byThai people, by theirThai Coach. Quit the rhetoric here. They knew there were risks entering at that time. It's not about 'a sign'. That's where risk assessment comes in.

You're bitter but you have a good memory. So you equate a soccer team and their coach entering a complex cave vulnerable to flooding during their national rainy season with me getting a blowjob from a female STEM hottie in an empty university lab? How is mine (which felt very good, btw) equivalently 'stupid chit' - did I need an international rescue effort to be organized for my hedonism? No. These kids and their coach? Yes.

That you even try to compare the two shows how bitter you are. If I expand on that and tell you that this gorgeous female student from Pakistan had a fetish for sucking me off in empty labs late at night on campus would this piss you off more? She sucked me off many times, pretty much a natural cocksucker. My knees were weak almost every time after. HNNNNGH.
You're a hypocrite who ignores the rules carelessly and judges others for doing similar things. If you think every Thai person is an expert on the potential of flooding for caves, you are mistaken. How much do you know about local caves in Brussels? Fuk off dude. This is yet another way for you to make yourself feel better by bringing another group of people down. BTW, yes having sex in a university lab is quite risky as well, considering you could be arrested and jailed for lewd conduct. I highly doubt these kids and their fuking soccer coach reasonably thought they would end up having to go that deep into the cave. You're an ass for judging them for this. I am sure they all regret being there. But hey, it's nice that some dude who commits crimes thousands of miles away can judge them.

BTW if you had any shred of empathy,you would realize this soccer coach was probably trying to do something nice for the team, taking them on a field trip. He will probably hate himself for the rest of his life (whether they escape this or not) for his decision. You can blame him like a caustic "PMA" douchebag or you can just say it is an unfortunate situation (which is the real PMA response, but most of you outwardly "positive" types fail to react this way because deep down you are usually narcissistic cancer. Like the way you randomly gloat about your sexual conquests now too. Great dude. Literally don't give a chit. Wish it was you in that cave.)
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Originally Posted By menseks
i'm all for doing cool things, but fukk spelunking.


https://i.imgur.com/cxEkp1O.jpg
Yeah fuk that. Im not normally claustrophobic or against doing cool/dangerous things but I am never crawling through some narrow ass cave passage that I dont know I cant get back out. I would go into a wide open previously explored cave. I will go diving, mountain climbing, sky diving, shark cages all kinds of chit. But no thanks jeff for that caving chit.
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Originally Posted By SerbianSickKant
why not give them air tanks and they grab onto pro divers and they take them out?
The passages are literally too tight. There isnt enough space for someone to grab on their backs. Then there is a huge amount of risk, even for professional rescue divers, kids panicking and pulling on their scuba equipment, the kids dont know how to swim or dive and they would have to be able to move and do it on their own with the divers in front and behind them.

Put it another way, they managed to get themselves 2 miles deep into this cave, pass such narrow passages that were dry before but now flooded out and underwater and the best rescue divers in the world think they have a better chance of surviving by waiting until October than trying to swim/dive out it.

Fuk going into anything like that.
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Originally Posted By wincel
You're a hypocrite who ignores the rules carelessly and judges others for doing similar things. If you think every Thai person is an expert on the potential of flooding for caves, you are mistaken. How much do you know about local caves in Brussels? Fuk off dude. This is yet another way for you to make yourself feel better by bringing another group of people down. BTW, yes having sex in a university lab is quite risky as well, considering you could be arrested and jailed for lewd conduct. I highly doubt these kids and their fuking soccer coach reasonably thought they would end up having to go that deep into the cave. You're an ass for judging them for this. I am sure they all regret being there. But hey, it's nice that some dude who commits crimes thousands of miles away can judge them.

BTW if you had any shred of empathy,you would realize this soccer coach was probably trying to do something nice for the team, taking them on a field trip. He will probably hate himself for the rest of his life (whether they escape this or not) for his decision. You can blame him like a caustic "PMA" douchebag or you can just say it is an unfortunate situation (which is the real PMA response, but most of you outwardly "positive" types fail to react this way because deep down you are usually narcissistic cancer. Like the way you randomly gloat about your sexual conquests now too. Great dude. Literally don't give a chit. Wish it was you in that cave.)
You don't give a chit but...you're the one who brought up my previous sexual experience of mine in this thread, not me. Stop trying to manipulate the context of this discussion to make it seem like I'm the one bringing up sex in a thread about a tragic situation. After you brought it up I deliberately went further, to rub salt on that incel wound that is you. Nobody who has had a healthy sex life gets pissed at seeing sexual experiences described, but that it triggers you is your fukking problem to be frank about it, not mine. Let's make that crystal clear here before you start crying about posters on this forum that talk about pleasant sex experiences they have had in their lives.

Your inability to understand empathy in my posts is caused by your insecurity complex. You're blinded by the seething rage you feel when you see my posts, because they represent (in your opinion) some kind of narcissism. But insecure people see confidence as arrogance all the time, so that explains that part of your approach to my posts too.

But all of this is meant to rest on your calculation that getting a blowjob in a university lab is 'breaking the rules' in the same way as a coach taking dependents (kids) to a vulnerable cave network during a vulnerable (weather) time of the year in the country that they live in, meaning they understood all this and that this might endanger their lives if weather took a turn for the worse. Hint: you're factually incorrect. My breaking the rules put no one's lives at risk whereas these kids/coach did. If you can't see the difference, see the first two paragraphs of this post.

Finally - look how upset you are, and ask yourself whether you (as someone who writes things like 'women are only good for one thing') are even capable of empathy. SRS. Are you capable of empathy? It doesn't seem like it, because promoting your incel thoughts is a poison, not empathy. Your posts simply spout accusations like an insecure gibbering idiot when you're an incel in Oregon. What the hell does my current geographical location mean about my nature related risk assessment? Why would you try to extrapolate my life experience from my current location? This is what I mean about this whole mathematics / philosophy comparison - some philosophers desperately need the rigorous approach that mathematics represents in the same way that some mathematicians desperately need training in logic.
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To clarify the situation here for peoples discussion

It seems like most people here can’t understand why they don’t get them out easily with diving teams. It’s because the cave is flooded with coffee-like water. Experts told, that the divers didn’t see ANYTHING. It was even very risky for the best divers. The two who found the kids were considered one of the best in the world.

Now guys really asking why they can’t get them out with diving teams?! These kids never dived, never experienced the feeling of diving. If you panic while under water in a cave you’re DEAD. Plus you can’t see anything you only can feel your way in a extreme narrow system.


Best thing to do is keep them down there and drill from above to get them supplied.

Also they went in 1 week before the advertising sign before the cave. It’s most likely a problem of the cave security activities than a true mistake by the group. Well of course it wasn’t the greatest idea but it wasn’t prohibited or advertised as life dangerous ON THE 23rd June.

Hope these kids make it out alive.
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Then we find out there’s creatures down there like in the descent...
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp
What I don't quite understand is why is spelunking taking priority over swimming lessons for kids in these countries?

Blows my fukking mind.
It is a rite of passage for the youth in the area to wade through the water and to get to the end of the cave and write their names on the wall. This is what they were doing, not exactly spelunking.
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on serious note that sounds complicated as hell.

if those kids really have no diving experience.

they are in big risk of decompression sickness and nitrogen narcosis
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why they just cant give thme dive equipment and other divers lead them to sweet freedom????
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I struggle with the idea that they are locals who got caught up in that. I would expect foreigners to not realize what could happen.

Locals would generally be like, "fck that cave. It flash floods randomly around these times"

Then that's where the locals laugh at the idiot foreigners
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Idk what's scarier, being stuck in middle of the ocean, or stuck in middle of a tight cave.
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Originally Posted By US_Ranger
Some people are fcking retarded in here.

I'm pretty sure they just went into the cave and then it started raining so they had to go further back into the cave to find high ground because they were getting washed out near the entrance and couldn't make their way back to where they started. So it was either stay where they were and drown or hope for the best and go further into the cave and get some dry ground.


As far as the narrow passage goes. Why not just take the scuba tank off, put it in front of you or behind you and swim while the next guy holds onto it and then passes it through the narrow part after you get through?

I went Cenote (cave) diving in Mexico. Some of the spots are narrow as fck, it gets a little crazy but as long as you stay calm you're fine.
Zero visibility. The kids would probably start panicking.
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