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post 1558016451 08-05-2018, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted By dj924s
It still doesn't detract from the fact, shock=hits.
When people only give attention to the classless trash of society........The audience determines popularity. The audience consumes pure trash, the manufactures of trash produce more trash to appease the audience.
You couldn't be more wrong. Life imitates art more than art imitates life these days. And by art I mean the filth that is social media and entertainment.

It's not that people seek trash on purpose, it's that it's what's being fed to them so their option is either to consume it or turn off all entertainment.

People enjoyed good and meaningful music back in the day just as much as people enjoy meaningless, mumble rap today.
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If she looked like Vivian Leigh with the rack of Jane Mansfield, and replace bourbon and slipper with BJ and another BJ.
The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.

That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.
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At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
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Originally Posted By Deathguard
Aye. The main social institution,the church, has sort of capitulated. The priest willingly wears a gag by the king, when it should be thundering about the corruption in society and leading the way - like they did in the 1700s. but pfff what did those guys ever do... besides found the most powerful nation the world has ever seen in recorded history...
This. It baffles me when I see some modern "priests" failing to condemn abortion for example.

I'm not even religious, but I'm aware that humanity as a whole isn't intelligent enough to be left to its own devices to evade hedonism and chaos. Society needs a judge to tell them right from wrong.
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Originally Posted By likeawashboard
This. It baffles me when I see some modern "priests" failing to condemn abortion for example.

I'm not even religious,but I'm aware that humanity as a whole isn't intelligent enough to be left to its own devices to evade hedonism and chaos. Society needs a judge to tell them right from wrong.
This

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I hate being that guy*.

If I had to guess, I'd venture to say OP has problems obtaining women, or what he thinks are good women. Of course, like most people he doesn't look inwards to identify what the issue is, he blames women, he blames society, he blames the times. Instead of thinking, "hey, maybe women don't want me because I have a fat back and small arms".


Personally, I prefer my wife, she cooks, cleans, is educated, and supports me in all my endeavors. She was even a virgin when I met her, not that that matters to me, but I bet it's something OP would like to have, never mind that if he could help it he wouldn't be a virgin himself.

*I don't hate it that much.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824
I hate being that guy*.

If I had to guess, I'd venture to say OP has problems obtaining women, or what he thinks are good women. Of course, like most people he doesn't look inwards to identify what the issue is, he blames women, he blames society, he blames the times. Instead of thinking, "hey, maybe women don't want me because I have a fat back and small arms".


Personally, I prefer my wife, she cooks, cleans, is educated, and supports me in all my endeavors. She was even a virgin when I met her, not that that matters to me, but I bet it's something OP would like to have, never mind that if he could help it he wouldn't be a virgin himself.

*I don't hate it that much.
There is truth to what you're saying about introspection, and there are of course quality traditional women still out there. The point is that the culture as a whole has drastically changed and it is not the norm to be a "quality traditional woman" like your wife seems to be. I know of one virgin in real life and she's a Christian, and most of my female friends/acquaintances scoff at the idea of cooking for their man, cleaning the house or the idea that sleeping around is potentially bad for society at large.

I also don't care about settling down with a virgin, most girls suck in bed anyway, let alone one who has never done anything sexual before.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824
I hate being that guy*.

If I had to guess, I'd venture to say OP has problems obtaining women, or what he thinks are good women. Of course, like most people he doesn't look inwards to identify what the issue is, he blames women, he blames society, he blames the times. Instead of thinking, "hey, maybe women don't want me because I have a fat back and small arms".


Personally, I prefer my wife, she cooks, cleans, is educated, and supports me in all my endeavors. She was even a virgin when I met her, not that that matters to me, but I bet it's something OP would like to have, never mind that if he could help it he wouldn't be a virgin himself.

*I don't hate it that much.
Married with two kids. Wife takes pretty good care of me. I love them all.

Should work on your sjw analyzing skills back in the genders studies dept.
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Originally Posted By Deathguard
Married with two kids. Wife takes pretty good care of me. I love them all.

Should work on your sjw analyzing skills back in the genders studies dept.
Ah, so you're just a redpill, betamax, soycell, fatback, at heart, good to know. If she takes good care of you, why are you here complaining?
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824
Ah, so you're just a redpill, betamax, soycell, fatback, at heart, good to know.If she takes good care of you, why are you here complaining?
When did he complain about his wife ITT??
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Originally Posted By DirtyDon123
When did he complain about his wife ITT??
It's implied, if I make a thread about wishing for a better car, that must mean I want something my current car is not giving me. If I make a thread about wanting a 1950's personal slave with the mind of a child as a wife, then my current wife must not be that.
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Originally Posted By Highwind7
they're 80 years old, man
Lmao!!!!

Omg, I'm a straight woman and even I would marry a woman from the 50's if she did all that.

Would I want to be one? Never. They were basically slaves. Despite the belief that they behaved and did all these things you list, they were also human beings, so the reality is they often had chronic depression and a million other issues that stem from being a human being with desires and dreams who is a slave. That's why this ideal didn't last.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with a woman who willing chooses this lifestyle. That's a rare and wonderful thing. But if it's chosen for you, it's still slave-like. It's a very hard job and she would still need a life outside of "work" to be emotionally stable, like any of us would. Imagine living at your work with your boss and never getting a break. No one could do that and remain happy and carefree.
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Originally Posted By NeedToBang
I'll take it, never gonna get better.

Would just prefer if she had a proper career.
How the hell could she do all the things on that list AND have a proper career?
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824
It's implied, if I make a thread about wishing for a better car, that must mean I want something my current car is not giving me. If I make a thread about wanting a 1950's personal slave with the mind of a child as a wife, then my current wife must not be that.
He just asked a question to the misc.

If he has traditional values so be it, doesn't mean he wants something his wife isn't giving him.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824
Ah, so you're just a redpill, betamax, soycell, fatback, at heart, good to know. If she takes good care of you, why are you here complaining?
.... I like conversing about the dynamics of society, philosophy, history and it affects stuff?

The real question is why are you here? Are you on crusade? Did I trigger you? Did I hurt your feelings?

Maybe you should stop looking for things in between the lines. There's no hidden meaning or unseen defecit. You can stop trying to look clever.

Stop being that guy. It's pretty beta of you.
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Originally Posted By nykiegin
How the hell could she do all the things on that list AND have a proper career?
That's the joke. They want a mentally diminished walking vagina/slave.

Differences between 1950s and today;

You could force your wife to have sex, no such thing as rape between married couples.

You could beat your wife, in fact, it was encouraged, just like you could beat your kids, because nothing screams great relationship like a threat of violence.

Many women didn't work, so they depended on the man for everything, this of course meant less divorce because if you have no work experience, it's either shytty marriage or poverty.

Men worked, women stayed at home, so they needed to be subservient, it's not like 3 hours of cooking a day plus 3 hours of cleaning, plus taking care of kids equals a full time job, since men made the money, women needed to be quiet and do as they were told.

Women weren't more reserved back then, they were just not treated as equals, step out of line, get slapped up, that's why women acted more reserved.
Originally Posted By DirtyDon123
He just asked a question to the misc.

If he has traditional values so be it, doesn't mean he wants something his wife isn't giving him.
Read above.
Originally Posted By Deathguard
.... I like conversing about the dynamics of society, philosophy, history and it affects stuff?

The real question is why are you here? Are you on crusade? Did I trigger you? Did I hurt your feelings?

Maybe you should stop looking for things in between the lines. There's no hidden meaning or unseen defecit. You can stop trying to look clever.

Stop being that guy. It's pretty beta of you.
I'm a superhero, I'm Anti-Hypocrisy Man. I'm here to expose you *******s who "yearn for a better time, a time where men were men, and men could beat their women to keep them in line."
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Originally Posted By Deathguard
Younger - not an old granny.

Comes with:


She is very pleasing to the eyes
Classy
Wears dresses only
Puts her self together before you wake up.
Has coffee ready every morning.
Has a gentle spirit
Loyal
Has a sense of humor
Cooks all your meals (say, including meal prep)
Would inquire about your ideas and positively reinforce them.
Hand you brandy and slippers when you came home from work.
Keep everything tranquil while you're at home.
Get some every night.
Keeps children (if any) in order and quiet.
***Feeding son only beef jerky and rocks until he is 24 crew***

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Originally Posted By Godfrd824
That's the joke. They want a mentally diminished walking vagina/slave.

Differences between 1950s and today;

You could force your wife to have sex, no such thing as rape between married couples.

You could beat your wife, in fact, it was encouraged, just like you could beat your kids, because nothing screams great relationship like a threat of violence.

Many women didn't work, so they depended on the man for everything, this of course meant less divorce because if you have no work experience, it's either shytty marriage or poverty.

Men worked, women stayed at home, so they needed to be subservient, it's not like 3 hours of cooking a day plus 3 hours of cleaning, plus taking care of kids equals a full time job, since men made the money, women needed to be quiet and do as they were told.

Women weren't more reserved back then, they were just not treated as equals, step out of line, get slapped up, that's why women acted more reserved.

Read above.
So you are saying that because OP gave a list that omitted those above (quite rightly and obviously so) that OP wants more from his wife and that includes forced sex, beating her, her being quiet and not being equal???

Brah you've legit got issues if that's your argument.

OP listed the criteria and omitted others...

We can nitpick and put things under a microscope all day but this is just crass and autistic even by misc standards
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Originally Posted By DirtyDon123
You are right imo but men today are also a mess.

People with traditional values today are rare both male and female.

I don't think any of this can be fixed as it starts at home with the family and there are more single parent/broken families than ever
I agree completely!! It's very sad to me. It's cultural chaos, but honestly I think it's growing pains and will pan out.

I'm a woman with pretty old school values. I'm also extremely selfless, kind, caring, whatever you call those feminine qualities that OP mentioned and the men are just as messed up because I get taken advantage of because I am this way. People are all around messed up.

Women are just as much to blame by teaching men how to treat us. We set the bar so low and try to be independent by being what we think is equal by dumbing down our natural gifts. Men take advantage of it for sex and honestly a lot of men just don't value honor or family or having one good woman to love and protect. It's like a vicious cycle.

It's like the 2 genders are in a completely dysfunctional relationship with one another and can't understand the other's needs. It's all kinda of chaos.
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A man could also buy a house in his early 20s on his salary alone, a couple of cars and a summer vacation with the family. GOAT.

Now women NEED to work with their partners in order to keep a roof over their heads while they send their children to be taken care of by someone else all week while they grind away at work.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824
It's implied, if I make a thread about wishing for a better car, that must mean I want something my current car is not giving me. If I make a thread about wanting a 1950's personal slave with the mind of a child as a wife, then my current wife must not be that.
So, seeing the problems in society means that there's a problem I have at home. Do you even logic?

Having objective ideals for genders is okay. In fact, it's impossible to not have. Does that mean they should all be the same. No.
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Originally Posted By DirtyDon123
So you are saying that because OP gave a list that omitted those above (quite rightly and obviously so) that OP wants more from his wife and that includes forced sex, beating her, her being quiet and not being equal???

Brah you've legit got issues if that's your argument.

OP listed the criteria and omitted others...

We can nitpick and put things under a microscope all day but this is just crass and autistic even by misc standards
It's not omitted, it's implied. Use your brain, think of why women were perceived as they were, then realize why they acted the way they did. It's more sad to want such a kind of woman, because you are literally saying you want a child in a woman's body. In fact, I can find you tons of literature from that time which basically said as much.

My wife cooks, cleans, takes care of all the bills, etc, but she does that out of her own volition. Let's not pretend these incels want a 1950s wife because of anything but the way they were made to act. Made to act, it's cool if your wife takes care of you, it's not so cool if you beat her ass when she doesn't.
Originally Posted By Deathguard
So, seeing the problems in society means that there's a problem I have at home. Do you even logic?

Having objective ideals for genders is okay. In fact, it's impossible to not have. Does that mean they should all be the same. No.
There is no problem with society, the same degenerates running around now are the same degenerates that were running around back then. Only difference is now they have the internet and can better organize themselves. 70 years ago if you were a freak furry, you wouldn't know about the other freak furries living even 20 miles from you. If you can't understand something so simple, then IDK what to say.
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Originally Posted By Deathguard
Actually no. Atheism is the worst offender (see the 20th century - worse than all of religion has to offer, by centuries).

Christianity is the liberator of humanity. Do you even history? Seriously the abuses even by the Holy roman empire was terrible, but it was abusing its own doctrine - by not living by it. Hence the protestant reformation. You shouldn't go around judging a religion by its abuse, but by the substance and essence of the text.

Christianity brought about the idea of the individual, real feminism.

The barbarity of pagans, particularly during old testament was absolutely atrocious, that God had to explicitly itemize bad things that would be obvious for us today (sex with children, mom, dad, mother in law.... or heck child sacrifice). I dont know of any other non Christian society that wasn't way off in regards to bleakness - even when the papacy was in the heyday of corruption.
Buddy, I am all about Christian values as I know them. But I know Atheists who are better Christians than the ones who claim to be and go to church. To me, it's a lifestyle of moral integrity. You can't condemn people who don't label themselves.
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Originally Posted By dj924s
Also, historically speaking, far more people committed atrocious atrocities in the name of "Judeo-Christian values". People seem to forget how barbaric a society we were as a whole in the "good old days", especially when only our most disgusting people are now paraded for the masses.
Atrocious atrocities, you say? I can't imagine atrocities being any more atrocious than they already are.
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Atrocious atrocities, you say? I can't imagine atrocities being any more atrocious than they already are.
Your logic is diabolically diabolical and terrifically terrifying at the same time. It's quite a tragic tragedy.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824
That's the joke. They want a mentally diminished walking vagina/slave.

Differences between 1950s and today;

You could force your wife to have sex, no such thing as rape between married couples.

You could beat your wife, in fact, it was encouraged, just like you could beat your kids, because nothing screams great relationship like a threat of violence.

Many women didn't work, so they depended on the man for everything, this of course meant less divorce because if you have no work experience, it's either shytty marriage or poverty.

Men worked, women stayed at home, so they needed to be subservient, it's not like 3 hours of cooking a day plus 3 hours of cleaning, plus taking care of kids equals a full time job, since men made the money, women needed to be quiet and do as they were told.

Women weren't more reserved back then, they were just not treated as equals, step out of line, get slapped up, that's why women acted more reserved.

Read above.



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Originally Posted By Godfrd824
It's not omitted, it's implied.Use your brain, think of why women were perceived as they were, then realize why they acted the way they did. It's more sad to want such a kind of woman, because you are literally saying you want a child in a woman's body. In fact, I can find you tons of literature from that time which basically said as much.

My wife cooks, cleans, takes care of all the bills, etc, but she does that out of her own volition. Let's not pretend these incels want a 1950s wife because of anything but the way they were made to act. Made to act, it's cool if your wife takes care of you, it's not so cool if you beat her ass when she doesn't.
I am using my brain, that's why I'm thinking you are angry at the injustices of 1950s women and that's overriding your ability to see what OP is saying.

You've also used so many ad hominems against OP that it's shown you are angry and emotional and unable to convey your thoughts in a rationalized civil manner.

You can argue about the treatment of women in 1950s all you want and have the audacity to psycho-analyse OP but all it suggests to me is that you are not up to the task of debate.

There you are talking about incels when this was a thread encouraging discussion on traditional values, culture and society. You've legit tainted this thread with your negativity. If I was to guess who the incel ITT is I'd have to say you. It has been said before that you are one of the most negative posters on this site, moreso than any incels.

If you've got it figured out how come these incels are happier than you???

n b4 you go there, no I am not an incel.
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Originally Posted By Deathguard
Strong embed, anyways, it's not about being triggered, it's about not being a hypocrite. It's also about understanding things weren't better for everyone.
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Originally Posted By DirtyDon123
I am using my brain, that's why I'm thinking you are angry at the injustices of 1950s women and that's overriding your ability to see what OP is saying.

You've also used so many ad hominems against OP that it's shown you are angry and emotional and unable to convey your thoughts in a rationalized civil manner.

You can argue about the treatment of women in 1950s all you want and have the audacity to psycho-analyse OP but all it suggests to me is that you are not up to the task of debate.

There you are talking about incels when this was a thread encouraging discussion on traditional values, culture and society. You've legit tainted this thread with your negativity. If I was to guess who the incel ITT is I'd have to say you. It has been said before that you are one of the most negative posters on this site, moreso than any incels.

If you've got it figured out how come these incels are happier than you???

n b4 you go there, no I am not an incel.
Saying I'm mad doesn't mean I'm mad, nor does it make me mad. Traditional values are, education, compassion, wanting for your children to be better than you. Everything the OP stated in his OP has nothing to do with traditional values, more to do with wanting a personal slave. I wonder what you'd be saying if I made the same thread, but changed the roles of the woman for a man. I'm sure you wouldn't be a hypocrite or anything.
Originally Posted By Rabbitjb
Looks like miscers wouldn’t score a 1950s women

Judging by this Time article they demanded as ideal

“Tall and blue-eyed, honest and involved in civic affairs, athletic and helpful around the house, well-read with a steady profession.

They also named the qualities that turned them off: men who were bossy, possessive, domineering, egotistical, rude, stingy and unwilling to visit friends and relatives.”

Oh and they had to dance
But how will miscers get their martini and slippers at the door then?
When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song and die like a hero going home.
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