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post 1560150201 08-31-2018, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp
So you're complaining about a few feet of difference without even taking into account the probable shift/wobble in earths axis in over at least 5,000 years?

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Those pesky stone agers and their zero tolerance.

And stop overusing the word 'arbitrary'.

It makes you sound like a repeater.
Lol wut.

If you want to "prove" that the center of Stonehenge mysteriously shifted latitude from exactly 51° 10' 42.3529" to where it is now, then by all means please supply the proof (good luck.....). Surely it could have shifted from someotherlocation, not 51° 10' 42.3529". Not that it did shift.

Without that, your numerology nonsensesimply does not add up. We have established that these numbers do not multiply together to get your meaningless 21,600 number. Your "great revelation" of 21,600 is extremely dependent on those latitude numbers being exactly as they are.....those few feet difference that you mention make a difference in hundreds when multiplied by 51 and 10: 22338 using the accurate latitude vs 21600.

It's......wait for it.....................Fake News.

And the reason I'm repeating arbitrary is because that's what your calculations are: arbitrary (literally in three different places, as mentioned in the above post).
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still amazes me how humans were able to build cities in less than 100 years aside from these damn pyramids

hope we find out why the pyramids were made for..they found crystal pyramids underwater i think too
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Originally Posted By numberguy12
Lol wut.

If you want to "prove" that the center of Stonehenge mysteriously shifted latitude from exactly 51° 10' 42.3529 to where it is now, then by all means please supply the proof (good luck.....).

Without that, your numerology nonsensesimply does not add up. We have established that these numbers do not multiply together to get your meaningless 21,600 number. Your "great revelation" of 21,600 is extremely dependent on those latitude numbers being exactly as they are.....

It's......wait for it.....................Fake News.

And the reason I'm repeating arbitrary is because that's what your calculations are: arbitrary.
You're asking me to prove if/how much the earth's axis has shifted over 5 millennia?

Sorry but I don't have a time machine.

However what we do know is that axis shifting does happen. And that over 5k years we can assume that it has shifted, even if just a little Therefore we can safely assume that your latitude 'centre' was incorrect at the time that Stonehenge was built.

That leaves us with probability. You claim to be a mathematician, so tell us what is the probability of arriving at even a close latitude to the site based on the 'code' that is 21,600.

Finally, you like to have 'evidence' to come to a conclusion. However, how much 'evidence' was there that the earth was round before it was proven? How much 'evidence' is there that dinosaurs had feathers and not scales? The answer is none, yet it doesn't necessarily make it untrue.

You need to open your mind. You're blinkered.
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp
You're asking me to prove if/how much the earth's axis has shifted over 5 millennia?

Sorry but I don't have a time machine.

However what we do know is that axis shifting does happen. And that over 5k years we can assume that it has shifted, even if just a little Therefore we can safely assume that your latitude 'centre' was incorrect at the time that Stonehenge was built.

That leaves us with probability. You claim to be a mathematician, so tell us what is the probability of arriving at even a close latitude to the site based on the 'code' that is 21,600.

Finally, you like to have 'evidence' to come to a conclusion. However, how much 'evidence' was there that the earth was round before it was proven? How much 'evidence' is there that dinosaurs had feathers and not scales? The answer is none, yet it doesn't necessarily make it untrue.

You need to open your mind. You're blinkered.
Read the post again with the edit: the point is evenifthe latitude of the center of Stonehedge changed in 5000 years (you are talking about axis shift for some reason- the equator at 0° is still the equator at 0° with an axis tilted differently. No...you mean to say plate tectonic movement and actual shape of earth changes, not axis shift).......your calculations still mean nothing unless you can show that the center literally shifted from exactly 51° 10' 42.3529"- this is the only value that "works" to give your meaningless 21,600 number.

So what's the probability ofthat? That the center of stonehenge shifted from exactly 51° 10' 42.3529" to where it is now? Basically 0.

Notice the tact taken by conspiracy theory numerologists here:

-begins thread with claim about center of stonehenge's coordinates producing 21,600
-it's pointed out that the above is not the correct center, and the result is not 21,600
-immediately tries to save concept by stating the original center was different (where was that in the OP?)
-provides no evidence that the original center was as stated.
-expects the 21,600 concept to still be a meaningful revelation, without a known original center.
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civil engineer checking in.

51 x 10 x 42.3529 = 21,600

has absolutely no relevance and is a fluke of the numbers.. multiplying those 3 numbers (deg, min, sec) together makes no sense.

a bearing of 51'10''42.3529''' is really just 51+ (10+(42.3529/60) / 60) giving you the angle of 51.1784 degrees versus expressing it in degrees minutes seconds.
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so what, even if we did figure this stuff out what does it matter
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Originally Posted By numberguy
the point is evenifthe latitude of the center of Stonehedge changed in 5000 years (you are talking about axis shift for some reason- the equator at 0° is still the equator at 0° with an axis tilted differently. No...you mean plate tectonics movement
Lol wut?

No I really do mean axis shift.

Of course the equator remains at 0.


But the land on which it lies has changed.

That is basic stuff.

Do you need me to draw you a picture?
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp
Lol wut?

No I really do mean axis shift.

Of course the equator remains at 0.


But the land on which it lies has changed.

That is basic stuff.

Do you need me to draw you a picture?
Lol strong understanding of the relation between axis of rotation and latitude here- I'd recommend you discontinue before looking even more ridiculous. The axis of a planet might shift- this doesnt mean a location on the planet changes its coordinates. Heck you couldknock the earth over on its side, and the equator would still be what you think it is- passing through the top of South America and the middle of Africa- those places would still have the same latitude coordinates (of 0°). Stonehenge would still have the same latitute coordinate. (This, in fact is what happened to Uranus- the planet is literally "knocked over on its side", making it unique in the solar system- its equator is nearly at a right angle to its orbit).

1. Take a tennis ball
2. Mark a dot on it, then mark another dot on the direct opposite side of the ball (these are the "poles")
3. Draw the equator line around the ball, halfway between the dots.
4. Now mark a different dot anywhere on the ball....put it somewhere like where stonehenge would be on earth.
5.Now rotate the ball in your hand in whichever direction
6. Do you honestly think the dot you made in (4) would now be different with respect to the equator drawn in (3)? Lol wtf?

Again, Stonehenge changing its coordinatescould, however, be the result of plate tectonic movements....but I can tell you did not understand my last post at all, because all this moving means nothing, unless you can specifically demonstrate that the center of Stonehenge was as the exact location 51° 10' 42.3529" 5000 years ago (which as already discussed, is virtually probability 0).

Lmao the lengths people will go to in order to defend a bad hypothesis......
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Not sure if this has been posted yet but one thing Stonehenge is actually known to do is predict eclipses. I can't post links, but google it.
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp
If, on a map, you draw a line from the centre of the Stonhenge circle, straight down to the equator, the latitude coordinate is[color=green]51°10'42.3529" N[color]

Now consider that originally there were 60 stones at the outer circle, and a circle = 360°

60 x 360 = 21,600

[color=green]51 x 10 x 42.3529[color]= 21,600



Mind = decimated.

It doesn't stop there either.

All the pyramids, mounds etc found across the world have correlating mathematics linking each other globally, indicating a worldwide civilization that was highly advanced (and not a bunch of pagan degenerates as mainstream science would have you believe).

I realize that 100% of you *******s won't watch this, and even if you don't, at least try and watch the first 20 minutes or so.



Why are we being lied to about our own history?
Immediately calling bullchit. Stonehenge was never even completely built, it was a lot of heavy rocks loosely stacked on too of each other, and never close to finished. What you see today is a refurbished version that has taken over a hundred years to maintain
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Originally Posted By numberguy12
Lol strong understanding of the relation between axis of rotation and latitude here- I'd recommend you discontinue before looking even more ridiculous. The axis of a planet might shift- this doesnt mean a location on the planet changes its coordinates. Heck you couldknock the earth over on its side, and the equator would still be what you think it is- passing through the top of South America and the middle of Africa- those places would still have the same latitude coordinates (of 0°). Stonehenge would still have the same latitute coordinate. (This, in fact is what happened to Uranus- the planet is literally "knocked over on its side", making it unique in the solar system- its equator is nearly at a right angle to its orbit).

1. Take a tennis ball
2. Mark a dot on it, then mark another dot on the direct opposite side of the ball (these are the "poles")
3. Draw the equator line around the ball, halfway between the dots.
4. Now mark a different dot anywhere on the ball....put it somewhere like where stonehenge would be on earth.
5.Now rotate the ball in your hand in whichever direction
6. Do you honestly think the dot you made in (4) would now be different with respect to the equator drawn in (3)? Lol wtf?

Again, Stonehenge changing its coordinatescould, however, be the result of plate tectonic movements....but I can tell you did not understand my last post at all, because all this moving means nothing, unless you can specifically demonstrate that the center of Stonehenge was as the exact location 51° 10' 42.3529" 5000 years ago (which as already discussed, is virtually probability 0).

Lmao the lengths people will go to in order to defend a bad hypothesis......
Only read the first 4 lines and then realized you're an actual potato.

The equator is about where the sun is closest to the earth, nothing else. The exact middle of both poles.

It has nothing to do with geography.

Holy fuk. LMFAO.

So you think if the earth's axis shifted 180 degrees the North pole would not become the South pole?

Omg.

I can't believe I've been wasting my time with you.

Negged.
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Immediately calling bullchit.
Immediately calling red insect that doesn't even lift.

Therefore opinion completely irrelevant.

Would neg but you're beneath even that.
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Yeh sorry OP

Watched the video - super awesome stuff but he's bullchitting about the numerology

Human civilization is almost definitely older than we currently believe, but this numerology stuff is clutching at straws and there must be better ways to investigate the truth
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Numerology is pseudo scientific garbage, beloved by potato people everywhere. As soon as someone wants to show you something 'amazing' and numerology is involved, you can just stop listening there because nothing of value will be said that day.
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp
Only read the first 4 lines and then realized you're an actual potato.

The equator is about where the sun is closest to the earth, nothing else. The exact middle of both poles.

It has nothing to do with geography.

Holy fuk. LMFAO.

So you think if the earth's axis shifted 180 degrees the North pole would not become the South pole?

Omg.

I can't believe I've been wasting my time with you.

Negged.



Immediately calling red insect that doesn't even lift.

Therefore opinion completely irrelevant.

Would neg but you're beneath even that.
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Originally Posted By DirtyDon123
Off spread.
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp
Only read the first 4 lines and then realized you're an actual potato.

The equator is about where the sun is closest to the earth, nothing else. The exact middle of both poles.

It has nothing to do with geography.

Holy fuk. LMFAO.

So you think if the earth's axis shifted 180 degrees the North pole would not become the South pole?

Omg.

I can't believe I've been wasting my time
Lmao what a tool. Extremely wrong as expected.

First, the equatoris not always the place on earth that the sun is closest to. This is wrong on like 10 different levels (and is also like 2nd grade science btw- at least in America- da fuq they teaching over there lol). The sun can be directly overhead anywhere in latitudes 23.5 degrees S to 23.5 degrees N, due to the axial tilt of about 23.5 degrees. During the northern hemisphere summer solstice, for example, you will find the sun directly overhead at 23.5 degree N latitude,not the equator.

Educate yourself on what equator means:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equator
An equator of a rotating spheroid (such as a planet) is its zeroth circle of latitude (parallel). It is the imaginary line on the spheroid's surface, equidistant from its poles, dividing it into northern and southern hemispheres. In other words, it is the intersection of the spheroid's surface with the plane perpendicular to its axis of rotation and midway between its poles.
Notice something about the above? It says nothing about where the line is in relation to the sun. It is simply defined as the halfway marker on the axis of rotation- which exactly agrees with everything in my last post.

And you are still clueless about why none of that matters in relation to your garbage OP, just lol:

Whether the latitude coordinate of the center of Stonehenge changed or not, you have absolutely no idea the original center was at the location you mentioned- meaning the entire calculation is bogus.

Lol at your inability to comprehend any of this. Your thread is wrecked and really exposes your lack of knowledge......

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Originally Posted By numberguy12
Lmao what a tool. Extremely wrong as expected.

First, the equatoris not always the place on earth that the sun is closest to. This is wrong on like 10 different levels (and is also like 2nd grade science btw- at least in America- da fuq they teaching over there lol). The sun can be directly overhead anywhere in latitudes 23.5 degrees S to 23.5 degrees N, due to the axial tilt of about 23.5 degrees. During the northern hemisphere summer solstice, for example, you will find the sun directly overhead at 23.5 degree N latitude,not the equator.

Educate yourself on what equator means:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equator



Notice something about the above? It says nothing about where the line is in relation to the sun. It is simply defined as the halfway marker on the axis of rotation- which exactly agrees with everything in my last post.

And you are still clueless about why none of that matters in relation to your garbage OP, just lol:

Whether the latitude coordinate of the center of Stonehenge changed or not, you have absolutely no idea the original center was at the location you mentioned- meaning the entire calculation is bogus.

Lol at your inability to comprehend any of this. Your thread is wrecked and really exposes your lack of knowledge......

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Originally Posted By BustaCapp
So you're complaining about a few feet of difference without even taking into account the probable shift/wobble in earths axis in over at least 5,000 years?

OK.png

Those pesky stone agers and their zero tolerance.

And stop overusing the word 'arbitrary'.

It makes you sound like a repeater.
jesus **** you are dumbb as kcuf. I mean im dumb to but atleast i know

TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE FHKING EARTH WOBBLE......this real life? the point is that equation was bull****
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Originally Posted By DirtyDon123
lol @ using Wiki as a source, no credibility
Wow look, another one from the U.K.

Your education let you down.....
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Originally Posted By DirtyDon123
lol @ using Wiki as a source, no credibility
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Numerology is pseudo scientific garbage, beloved by potato people everywhere. As soon as someone wants to show you something 'amazing' and numerology is involved, you can just stop listening there because nothing of value will be said that day.
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Originally Posted By numberguy12
Wow look, another one from the U.K.

Your education let you down.....
lol @ not even having the intellectual discipline to acknowledge my point and resort to ad hominem attacks...

If you were educated you'd at least know how to debate without resorting to baseless attacks.
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Originally Posted By DirtyDon123
lol @ not even having the intellectual discipline to acknowledge my point and resort to ad hominem attacks...

If you were educated you'd at least know how to debate without resorting to baseless attacks.
By all means, please define equator if you dont want to use the above (universally accepted) definition, that is taught for example in any astronomy 101 course or grade school science course.

What is your definition?
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Originally Posted By numberguy12
By all means, please define equator if you dont want to use the above (universally accepted) definition, that is taught for example in any astronomy 101 course or grade school science course.

What is your definition?
Now you're changing the topic.

I was talking about Wikipedia not being a credible source, don't try to move the goalposts here buddy
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post 1560179211 08-31-2018, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted By DirtyDon123
lol @ not even having the intellectual discipline to acknowledge my point and resort to ad hominem attacks...

If you were educated you'd at least know how to debate without resorting to baseless attacks.
This.

Hey guys the equator is etched on the surface of the planet and not anything to do with direct sunlight and neither are the poles to do with being as far away from the sun as possible.

Honestly guys

The equator moves as the earth shifts.

It's a man made marker.

Might well spray paint that line on the earth.

LMFAO.

Jesus Christ you need to remove your signature because you cannot comprehend the basic physics that a 7 year old child grasp.
fist yourself
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