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I thought Jordan Peterson was a level headed guy until i saw this (carnivore diet)

lmao never go full bro science bro

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Originally Posted By skinnyFAT91⏩
Actually never got the hype about this guy, he just seems off and on way too many prescription drugs.
I thought he was brilliant at first and I agree with a lot of what he says, but also thinks he just likes hearing himself talk.
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I'm fairly unsure of his ability to think straight on this given the story about his daughter. At the end of the day this isn't his area but whatever works for him.
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The carnivore diet is legit. The reason why you think that he is being "crazy" here is because you have been conditioned to believe a lie that is installed to make you sick. Your mental state is absolutely affected by your diet, so why would you be so shocked to learn that eating a completely unnatural diet loaded in grains and carbs with minimal animal fats (the "bad ones" that your body actually needs) probably has something to do with the out of nowhere meteoric rise in mental health problems that have been observed in the past ~50 or whatever years?
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Originally Posted By metafour⏩
The carnivore diet is legit. The reason why you think that he is being "crazy" here is because you have been conditioned to believe a lie that is installed to make you sick. Your mental state is absolutely affected by your diet, so why would you be so shocked to learn that eating a completely unnatural diet loaded in grains and carbs with minimal animal fats (the "bad ones" that your body actually needs) probably has something to do with the out of nowhere meteoric rise in mental health problems that have been observed in the past ~50 or whatever years?
Alright processed carbs are **** but green veggies too??? c'mon man...
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he's a shill
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Originally Posted By johnnyboi123⏩
Alright processed carbs are **** but green veggies too??? c'mon man...
Soybean is a green veggie...
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What if it worked for him? I don't think he suggested that every person on the face of the earth should start eating nothing but meat.
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Originally Posted By johnnyboi123⏩
Alright processed carbs are **** but green veggies too??? c'mon man...
Green vegetables are cleansers, not meant to be something you overeat or survive on. There is a reason why plant matter is highly indigestible and there is a reason why you naturally have no inclination to eat 99.9% of the plant matter you see in nature even though it is plentiful. Nobody would ever eat spinach or kale unless you told them that it was "good for you" which makes no sense from an evolutionary standpoint (how can the supposedly "healthiest foods" be something that the body has no interest in eating?). Do you ever wonder why no infant/toddler/kid likes vegetables, and least of all the leafy green ones? Young children are primal in that they behave instinctively. You have to trick and goat them into eating these foods for a reason.
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He definitely understands mental models and how/why people behave the way they do on a micro and macro scale.

But being an expert in one area typically means youโ€™re not going to have time to really understand other fields.

Anyways there isnโ€™t enough data out there on the carnivore diet for me to buy into it. I definitely think that you really have to approach your diet from a dr. Rhonda Patrick perspective (getting your genes looked at) if you really want to know exactly how you should eat. Otherwise I think the paleo type diets are generally a good enough goal for most. Then again Iโ€™m not an expert either.

From what Iโ€™ve heard his daughter has serious auto immune issues when she eats anything but meat so Iโ€™m sure he has a bit of a bias.

Side note- from a bodybuilding perspective I would imagine a short term 30-60 day carnivore diet during cut season would be pretty ideal.
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Originally Posted By metafour⏩
Green vegetables are cleansers, not meant to be something you overeat or survive on. There is a reason why plant matter is highly indigestible and there is a reason why you naturally have no inclination to eat 99.9% of the plant matter you see in nature even though it is plentiful. Nobody would ever eat spinach or kale unless you told them that it was "good for you" which makes no sense from an evolutionary standpoint (how can the supposedly "healthiest foods" be something that the body has no interest in eating?). Do you ever wonder why no infant/toddler/kid likes vegetables, and least of all the leafy green ones? Young children are primal in that they behave instinctively. You have to trick and goat them into eating these foods for a reason.
Lmao what a load of horsechit.
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Originally Posted By metafour⏩
Green vegetables are cleansers, not meant to be something you overeat or survive on. There is a reason why plant matter is highly indigestible and there is a reason why you naturally have no inclination to eat 99.9% of the plant matter you see in nature even though it is plentiful. Nobody would ever eat spinach or kale unless you told them that it was "good for you" which makes no sense from an evolutionary standpoint (how can the supposedly "healthiest foods" be something that the body has no interest in eating?). Do you ever wonder why no infant/toddler/kid likes vegetables, and least of all the leafy green ones? Young children are primal in that they behave instinctively. You have to trick and goat them into eating these foods for a reason.
God this is stupid
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Originally Posted By Jaroctor⏩
God this is stupid
You live in Canada. In the 4-6 months of the year wherein everything is frozen and nothing grows, how many leafy vegetables (or fruits) do you imagine you would be eating in nature without modern human intervention (shipping foods all over the world that don't even belong in your climate, mass farming and agriculture, etc)?

Your government-supported "health diet" consisting of loads of vegetables, fruits, legumes and grains is a logistical impossibility in nature, so how could this be what nature intended you to thrive on? Bananas don't exist in Canada you idiot, even potatoes are native to South America and would be non-existent to anyone from Europe or anywhere else on the planet. Pretty much all of the fruits you eat are man-made through selective breeding and genetic alteration. Wild apples taste like **** and aren't loaded with sugars like the man-made apples you find in the supermarket.

Humans are the only creature on the planet stupid enough to create their own diets and foods.
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He seems to be just sharing his experiences in controlling his auto-immune disease (his daughter has the same issues).

What specifically do you have a problem with? I don't think he claims to be a nutritional expert, he says that repeatedly.
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Originally Posted By metafour⏩
You live in Canada. In the 4-6 months of the year wherein everything is frozen and nothing grows, how many leafy vegetables (or fruits) do you imagine you would be eating in nature without modern human intervention (shipping foods all over the world that don't even belong in your climate, mass farming and agriculture, etc)?

Your government-supported "health diet" consisting of loads of vegetables, fruits, legumes and grains is a logistical impossibility in nature, so how could this be what nature intended you to thrive on? Bananas don't exist in Canada you idiot, even potatoes are native to South America and would be non-existent to anyone from Europe or anywhere else on the planet. Pretty much all of the fruits you eat are man-made through selective breeding and genetic alteration. Wild apples taste like **** and aren't loaded with sugars like the man-made apples you find in the supermarket.

Humans are the only creature on the planet stupid enough to create their own diets and foods.
Must have been a pretty consistent conspiracy going then, ever since our hunting andgatheringdays.
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When it comes to food, diet and exercise even the smartest people can become dumb-asses.
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Originally Posted By Rajc⏩
lol i got hated on for saying he's a pathetic jerkoff but seems like the lights are turning on in some of the miscs brightest minds finally
It's all about Jesse Lee Peterson in 2018, doesn't beat around the bush and a master troll
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Originally Posted By metafour⏩
Green vegetables are cleansers, not meant to be something you overeat or survive on. There is a reason why plant matter is highly indigestible and there is a reason why you naturally have no inclination to eat 99.9% of the plant matter you see in nature even though it is plentiful. Nobody would ever eat spinach or kale unless you told them that it was "good for you" which makes no sense from an evolutionary standpoint (how can the supposedly "healthiest foods" be something that the body has no interest in eating?). Do you ever wonder why no infant/toddler/kid likes vegetables, and least of all the leafy green ones? Young children are primal in that they behave instinctively. You have to trick and goat them into eating these foods for a reason.
Brah when I see a piece of raw chicken or beef, last thing I wanna do is sink my teeth in it. Cooking it is unnatural too, donโ€™t think your argument is sound
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This guy acts like an expert in all fields. I wouldn't even care to listen to any of his advice on topics outside his expertise. Even then, I'm not particularly a fan of his. I find other people to have much better advice that resonates way more.

What's next listening to Jordan Peterson's advice on interior design? Guy is literally developing a cult following.
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He does the carnivore diet to help support his daughter.

His daughter suffers from numerous life threatening illnesses and the carnivore diet seems to be helping her.

Many misinformed people posting in here.
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not a huge fan of his but in this case he repeatedly states that he's not recommending the diet to anyone and that he's just telling an anecdote of how it helped his family's autoimmune problems
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Originally Posted By BostonRockets⏩
This guy acts like an expert in all fields.
never has he said hes a nutrional expert, quite the opposite. he always claims hes a clinical physcologist and thats his up most expertise. stop spitting lies
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Originally Posted By sdmk⏩
not a huge fan of his but in this case he repeatedly states that he's not recommending the diet to anyone and that he's just telling an anecdote of how it helped his family's autoimmune problems
That was my interpretation too.
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Originally Posted By DirtyDon123⏩
It's all about Jesse Lee Peterson in 2018, doesn't beat around the bush and a master troll
Jesse is a bit of a retard tbh. Heโ€™s like the right wing version of the leftist feminist. Some entertaining content though.

Look up his intereview with David Pakman.
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Nothing he said sounds crazy. As someone who has done multiple extreme activities and played around with various diets... a lot of the things he said correlate with things I've noticed.

- The sensitivity when adding bad foods back
- The radical weightloss
- The mood/depression change
- Changes in complexion
- Sleep regulation
- Inflammation

Like he said... a lot of can/can't depends on your genetics. And that can vary wildly even within your own family.

From what I've seen... if you don't spend the time to figure this out as a young adult... it can hit you like a ton of bricks in middle age. I've watched people who were seemingly okay one year all of a sudden get debilitating health and gut problems the next. It's almost as if the body says, "Nope... can't fight the good fight anymore... I'm done."
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Originally Posted By metafour⏩
The carnivore diet is legit. The reason why you think that he is being "crazy" here is because you have been conditioned to believe a lie that is installed to make you sick. Your mental state is absolutely affected by your diet, so why would you be so shocked to learn that eating a completely unnatural diet loaded in grains and carbs with minimal animal fats (the "bad ones" that your body actually needs) probably has something to do with the out of nowhere meteoric rise in mental health problems that have been observed in the past ~50 or whatever years?
^^Agreed

It's ironic how hard people on this forum will bash religious people... yet when it comes to their ingrained health/diet beliefs they are incapable of being skeptic.
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Originally Posted By Jaroctor⏩
God this is stupid
lol... no it's not.

Does your mouth water when you see a salad sitting on a table ... or when you see a juicy steak? Why is it when i stick a piece of lettuce in my mouth it produces almost no physiological response... but then i a tiny bit of butter and i go crazy?

Outside of nutrition. Toddlers also naturally squat when they want to chit. Why? Because it unkinks the colon and allows chit to pass much easier. As adults we're habitually trained to use the toilet which causes health problems. Kids also naturally slouch. Why? Because it's actually more ergonomical to flatten out than it is to sit up straight with your entire upper body pressing on your lumbar.
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