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post 1563183401 10-08-2018, 09:45 AM
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One of the nice things about living in the country is all the women are conservative and you're more likely to be raped by them.
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Originally Posted By tunafish01
Heres what happened to me last night. Been hanging with this 20 year old girl (im 28), shes a liberal of course, I like Trump.

her: Donald Trump is a rapist
me: how
her: he grabbed girls without their consent
me: you grabbed my ass last week without consent ..
her: you did stuff to me too without my consent.


You think this is what a guy wants to hear?

Next.
Please advise
post 1563184001 10-08-2018, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted By tunafish01
Women logic: I love aggressive guys that make the first move

Guy makes the first move

Women: Sexual assault! You didnt have my consent!

This is an issue I am seeing more and more of. Girlsthinkthey have the upper hand long term, when in reality, they only have it short term. Its funny seeing these 29+ year old girls comment on why they they arent married, why theyd rather be single. Its all pure cope.

Every girl dreams of walking down an aisle getting married one day, looking all pretty, being the center of attention, having instagram pics that their friends call all comment on.

Men? Personally I would not be bothered if I didnt get married. Save me the money, save me the time.

Westernized females are done for the most part if they have a hint of liberal in them.
it is obvious you get all of your information online and have absolutely zero interaction with people IRL, especially women. It is always obvious when men try to act as if they know what women want.
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Originally Posted By eod8989
It is though men walk on eggshells at professional environments i know because i work in one of the largest offices in my city. Obviously you are going to have certain men and women who talk to each other as coworkers because that is normal interaction but outside of that men do not get involved with the women at these places. Why would i lie on an internet forum?

Plus a lot of females are bosses at these places now you can't just say what you want or act like you would around the boys. You say one wrong thing and you're screwed.Even if you don't get fired the reputation will follow you forever.
At my old NG squadron, a couple of times there were some hnnng ladies, and one dfefinite hbb (junior in rank) who would hit on me. They would show all kinds of non-verbals. blushing. strong EC. nervousness. actively try to make conversation. And do you know who got labeled the creep? Yep. me.

Current environment of females & males conversing in the work place allows said females to be the "innocent" victims at all times should it go sideways. Why? partially because they obviously look less threatening & more fragile, hence contributing to this notion, but also, girls gossip more, have WAY less personal responsibility for their own actions (IE always blaming someone/a guy bc it's HIS fault), and to top it off, beta male orbiters are so quick to side with them that, before you know it, EVERYONE agrees it was OP who was in the wrong or was creepy or harassed her or should've taken the hint or came on too strong.

This is mostly caused by nothing other than a colossal lack of integrity by females and flat-out refusal to admit ANY wrongdoing even when they should. Why? Entitled as absolute f***.
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Surprise surprise.

******* OP who talked chit in my moneymaking thread outs himself as some virgin Reddit neckbeard, probably in his 30s still living in his mother's basement.

What a surprise.
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Originally Posted By AquilaConfido
Surprise surprise.

******* OP who talked chit in my moneymaking thread outs himself as some virgin Reddit neckbeard, probably in his 30s still living in his mother's basement.

What a surprise.
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Originally Posted By tunafish01
Im 28, have my own house.
Try leaving it from time to time.
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Originally Posted By Redfish225
Flo can get it, srs.
i hope that srs isnt asrs. thats nasty bro
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Originally Posted By tunafish01
Please advise
''looks like we both sexually assaulted each other. wanna bang?''

either that or stop talking to her. lmfao @ being a friend with liberal girl.
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Originally Posted By Highwind7
''looks like we both sexually assaulted each other. wanna bang?''

either that or stop talking to her. lmfao @ being a friend with liberal girl.
I was into her srs. After that dialogue, no thanks. Plus shes a ****in vegan also
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Originally Posted By redraider86
I'm not saying it never happens, but I don't buy it either. It seems like as long as you don't have a rich social media presence or are a celebrity with a lot to lose, it's all overblown and ridiculous.

You don't feel like you're creeping them out because you're not creeping them out. I'm sure you have entirely pleasant conversations with those you talk to, no matter how informal the interaction. The guys that whine that women won't talk to them or that women think they're creepy or that you need a recording of a women giving you consent before sleeping with her...Well Occam's razor bitch, you're creepy.

Even on the misc, a cesspool of degenerate creeps, I've only had to deal with genuine weirdos once or twice.
Yeah that's what I figured. I know what women go through to a certain extent, a lot of creeps out there that can easily overpower a woman. If some of these guys had a close female friend tell them a story or 2 they'd understand. The girl I was messing with had another guy who was awkward and almost followed her to her apartment. Luckily it was a enclosed college campus LOL. Hell, just read the texts of some of these dudes.


I never pressure women and always leave the ball in their court, then go about my day. With the way some women act, there's really no point in getting my hopes up.
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Originally Posted By tunafish01
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He butt raped that chick tho. Pretty sure a less successful man would be locked up.

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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey
Yeah that's what I figured. I know what women go through to a certain extent, a lot of creeps out there that can easily overpower a woman. If some of these guys had a close female friend tell them a story or 2 they'd understand. The girl I was messing with had another guy who was awkward and almost followed her to her apartment. Luckily it was a enclosed college campus LOL. Hell, just read the texts of some of these dudes.


I never pressure women and always leave the ball in their court, then go about my day. With the way some women act, there's really no point in getting my hopes up.
My original point of "girls like guys that make the first move"

Women logic
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Originally Posted By friesbruh
At my old NG squadron, a couple of times there were some hnnng ladies, and one dfefinite hbb (junior in rank) who would hit on me. They would show all kinds of non-verbals. blushing. strong EC. nervousness. actively try to make conversation. And do you know who got labeled the creep? Yep. me.

Current environment of females & males conversing in the work place allows said females to be the "innocent" victims at all times should it go sideways. Why? partially because they obviously look less threatening & more fragile, hence contributing to this notion, but also, girls gossip more, have WAY less personal responsibility for their own actions (IE always blaming someone/a guy bc it's HIS fault), and to top it off, beta male orbiters are so quick to side with them that, before you know it, EVERYONE agrees it was OP who was in the wrong or was creepy or harassed her or should've taken the hint or came on too strong.

This is mostly caused by nothing other than a colossal lack of integrity by females and flat-out refusal to admit ANY wrongdoing even when they should. Why? Entitled as absolute f***.
Because they dont have to. Srs.. If a girl has an idea that is wrong what exactly can you do?

She can hold the idea perpetually and theres nothing you can do to change. You can not interact with her but shes got more orbiters than you. Shell win even if shes acting completely irrational as her social circle supports her and other men want poosy
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No. Refusing to talk to women for the rest of your life is not going to solve anything. The tide needs to be turned back to sane middle ground.
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Originally Posted By SweetPetals
it is obvious you get all of your information online and have absolutely zero interaction with people IRL, especially women. It is always obvious when men try to act as if they know what women want.
Well he's somewhat right. I've had the guys tell me to be aggressive when I'm alone with a woman to seal the deal. I've done it and felt bad, but still sealed the deal and of course she liked me so no wrong doing. There's times when women also want to you make the 1st move.

The dilemma is ---> be aggressive and get the pootang -or- be labeled a creep -or- be labeled a beta male.

It's confusing, especially for the guys with no experience lol. Just gotta look for the signs I guess and some guys can't do that.
Originally Posted By tunafish01
My original point of "girls like guys that make the first move"

Women logic
If they really like you, they'll give signs. Some guys can't read those signs.
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Originally Posted By tunafish01
I was into her srs. After that dialogue, no thanks. Plus shes a ****in vegan also
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Originally Posted By redraider86
I'm not saying it never happens, but I don't buy it either. It seems like as long as you don't have a rich social media presence or are a celebrity with a lot to lose, it's all overblown and ridiculous.

You don't feel like you're creeping them out because you're not creeping them out. I'm sure you have entirely pleasant conversations with those you talk to, no matter how informal the interaction. The guys that whine that women won't talk to them or that women think they're creepy or that you need a recording of a women giving you consent before sleeping with her...Well Occam's razor bitch, you're creepy.

Even on the misc, a cesspool of degenerate creeps, I've only had to deal with genuine weirdos once or twice.
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On topic: I do think it's largely overblown due to the MSM and rabid loudmouth twitterati mobs, IRL people aren't exactly getting #metoo'd on the daily. However I will say this: professional men aredefinitelywalking on eggshells in office settings.

I will explicitly self-censor and become the most PC mofo out there in front of women who I'm not already friends with because I can't afford to take a chance at offending the wrongwomyn, especially when any form of allegation these days is a death sentence for ones reputation.

I also feel like women are now hyper-aware of sexual harassment and some most definitely are just waiting to ruin a guys life over a misplaced stare a.k.a "the male gaze". Hence in the gym I'm not making eye contact with anyone.

It goes without saying that the above post is not an implication in anyway that sexual harassment does not occur/isn't a real problem.
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Originally Posted By Vexidi
One of the nice things about living in the country is all the women are conservative and you're more likely to be raped by them.
Simple truth is if a female is a liberal or votes Democrat she's more likely to accuse someone of sexual assault, make bizarre accusations or be vindictive just because you have a different opinion or if she's angry at you.





Anyone that dates or associates with female leftists is increasing their risk of being #metooed.
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Originally Posted By tunafish01
Women logic: I love aggressive guys that make the first move

Guy makes the first move

Women: Sexual assault! You didnt have my consent!

This is an issue I am seeing more and more of. Girlsthinkthey have the upper hand long term, when in reality, they only have it short term. Its funny seeing these 29+ year old girls comment on why they they arent married, why theyd rather be single. Its all pure cope.

Every girl dreams of walking down an aisle getting married one day, looking all pretty, being the center of attention, having instagram pics that their friends call all comment on.

Men? Personally I would not be bothered if I didnt get married. Save me the money, save me the time.

Westernized females are done for the most part if they have a hint of liberal in them.
This is kinda overexaggeration brah...most of us will not ever have to deal with sexual harassment allegations. Just use your head.

I talk to alot of liberal leaning women and very few of them give off feminist vibes.
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey
Well he's somewhat right. I've had the guys tell me to be aggressive when I'm alone with a woman to seal the deal. I've done it and felt bad, but still sealed the deal and of course she liked me so no wrong doing. There's times when women also want to you make the 1st move.

The dilemma is ---> be aggressive and get the pootang -or- be labeled a creep -or- be labeled a beta male.

It's confusing, especially for the guys with no experience lol. Just gotta look for the signs I guess and some guys can't do that.
I can honestly say being aggressive is definitely not always the way to go. Not all women are like that. I cringe when I see people say that as if there is a one size fits all way to flirting. I personally HATE when someone is aggressive with me in any shape or form. I like a more neutral approach. Seeing as I predominantly have female friends I can say it definitely varies. a few of them prefer being the more aggressive type and I only see them date more beta types(or they're happily married to beta types), I know a few women who are completely submissive and like a man to sort of have a strong command in the relationship, the list goes on. Some women it depends on the guy. It is really best to vibe with the person and see what they like rather than assume a "one size fits all" kind of thing. You would be surprised by how many women actually dont prefer aggression and that's just kind of what they deal with because "that's how things are"
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Originally Posted By SweetPetals
I can honestly say being aggressive is definitely not always the way to go. Not all women are like that. I cringe when I see people say that as if there is a one size fits all way to flirting. I personally HATE when someone is aggressive with me in any shape or form. I like a more neutral approach. Seeing as I predominantly have female friends I can say it definitely varies. a few of them prefer being the more aggressive type and I only see them date more beta types(or they're happily married to beta types), I know a few women who are completely submissive and like a man to sort of have a strong command in the relationship, the list goes on. Some women it depends on the guy. It is really best to vibe with the person and see what they like rather than assume a "one size fits all" kind of thing. You would be surprised by how many women actually dont prefer aggression and that's just kind of what they deal with because "that's how things are"
I would contend more often that not the males you interact with are more often the agressor - using the aggressor as the one that catalyzes the interaction - because more often than not women DONT like feeling like whores or that theyre desperate

Have i had a girl initiate first interaction? Yes. When i was at a club i had a girl state "act like my boyfriend" before she backed up into me. From there on i escalated everything. Not once was consent verbalized. Can i kiss your neck? Can i grab your arms? Can i do this? Can i do that?

And my interaction with women irl has led me to this deduction

Youre truly a rare breed if you prefer the guy to ask for consent every move
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Originally Posted By friesbruh
At my old NG squadron, a couple of times there were some hnnng ladies, and one dfefinite hbb (junior in rank) who would hit on me. They would show all kinds of non-verbals. blushing. strong EC. nervousness. actively try to make conversation. And do you know who got labeled the creep? Yep. me.

Current environment of females & males conversing in the work place allows said females to be the "innocent" victims at all times should it go sideways. Why? partially because they obviously look less threatening & more fragile, hence contributing to this notion, but also, girls gossip more, have WAY less personal responsibility for their own actions (IE always blaming someone/a guy bc it's HIS fault), and to top it off, beta male orbiters are so quick to side with them that, before you know it, EVERYONE agrees it was OP who was in the wrong or was creepy or harassed her or should've taken the hint or came on too strong.

This is mostly caused by nothing other than a colossal lack of integrity by females and flat-out refusal to admit ANY wrongdoing even when they should. Why? Entitled as absolute f***.
Yeah they are very entitled and never admit they are wrong. And more times than not the WK's will side with a girl especially if she is attractive. Nobody ever stands up to women in the workplace i remember when i was younger and working retail men and women would argue and fight but that doesn't happen anymore.
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Fake news. I flirt with women all the time. The problem is, you need to realize the balance between agressive, and overly creepy. Women like an agressive, take action kind of guy. They don't like a stalker. Honesty you can weed out 99% of the me too women by finding out what their stance is on politics and abortion. Conservative women are RARELY the me too women. It's always some extreme left girl.
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this could lead to our society coming full circle on arranged marriages. guys afraid to talk to women because of everything from being FA basement dwellers to just being afraid of going to jail for saying hi and not asking permission first.
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Originally Posted By propreffered7
I would contend more often that not the males you interact with are more often the agressor - using the aggressor as the one that catalyzes the interaction - because more often than not women DONT like feeling like whores or that theyre desperate

Have i had a girl initiate first interaction? Yes. When i was at a club i had a girl state "act like my boyfriend" before she backed up into me. From there on i escalated everything. Not once was consent verbalized. Can i kiss your neck? Can i grab your arms? Can i do this? Can i do that?

And my interaction with women irl has led me to this deduction

Youre truly a rare breed if you prefer the guy to ask for consent every move
I donno. I would say I was typically the aggressor in my single days, and going out and being around my friends I would say most typically cold approach or the men are pretty evenly. Then again this can be purely cultural. Most of my friends are black or Hispanic(I am both) and I have noticed it has pretty much always been more normal for us to cold approach, ask for numbers, etc.
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Originally Posted By SweetPetals
I donno. I would say I was typically the aggressor in my single days, and going out and being around my friends I would say most typically cold approach or the men are pretty evenly. Then again this can be purely cultural. Most ofmy friends are black or Hispanic(I am both) and I have noticed it has pretty much always been more normal for us to cold approach, ask for numbers, etc.
This was mirrored on those Okcupid messaging stats where black and hispanic women sent first messages to guys way more than any other ethnic group. Also speaking from experience, the only 2 times I've ever been overtly hit on IRL have been by black women...and one of them had to get physically carried out of the venue by bouncers because she was so drunk and aggressive lulz.
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Originally Posted By redraider86
I'm not saying it never happens, but I don't buy it either. It seems like as long as you don't have a rich social media presence or are a celebrity with a lot to lose, it's all overblown and ridiculous.

You don't feel like you're creeping them out because you're not creeping them out. I'm sure you have entirely pleasant conversations with those you talk to, no matter how informal the interaction. The guys that whine that women won't talk to them or that women think they're creepy or that you need a recording of a women giving you consent before sleeping with her...Well Occam's razor bitch, you're creepy.

Even on the misc, a cesspool of degenerate creeps, I've only had to deal with genuine weirdos once or twice.
"Rape charges against 4 California dentists dismissed after video contradicts woman's story"
https://news3lv.com/news/local/four-...s-womans-story

"10 Years Later, The Duke Lacrosse Rape Case Still Stings"
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b065e2e3d486f7

But this can be a good thing. Maybe with the hookup culture getting way too chaotic, this will get people to get into a more monogamous, traditionalist mindset and shift towards being a nuclear family.
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