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Originally Posted By TommyRO
I'll put it this way, anyone coming out of a major uni as a virgin is a weird fuker out here so guess different perspectives. Marrying a virgin is not practical.
Don't be too quick to judge.
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer
Don't be too quick to judge.
But it's usually true even the weirdest furry and anime weibo or w.e they call them had opportunities. Unless of course they never socialized with anyone which just lol
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
So during that time were you only sleeping with ugly women or women โ€œso unlikable that (you) can't wait to just fuk her and leaveโ€?

Or were some women in your same looks range and likeable but you just werenโ€™t ready to settle down?
There's a weird sort of buyer's remorse that hits a guy after he sleeps with a woman he's been chasing. I felt it when I was younger. I'm sure most guys here can relate. I don't know what it is.

It's a bit like the thought of a cold beer on a hot day being better that actually having a cold beer on a hot day. Not that having a cold beer is bad. It's just that having it doesn't live up to your expectations when you are thinking about how good it would be to have.

I think lots of guys are looking for the girls who they don't feel like this about the next morning. When they find them, then they are ready for a more serious relationships. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the girls they walked away from either. It's just that the mornings after are the reality and reality are rarely as good as the fantasy of the night before.

Or maybe I was the only one who was like that.
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Originally Posted By TommyRO
But it's usually true even the weirdest furry and anime weibo or w.e they call them had opportunities. Unless of course they never socialized with anyone which just lol
You might be right for the most part, but there are exceptions. Plenty of normal people for whom the opportunity never presented itself, they weren't great with women, self-sabotaged, were religious, conservative etc.

It is probably true for the typical case though.
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed
There's a weird sort of buyer's remorse that hits a guy after he sleeps with a woman he's been chasing. I felt it when I was younger. I'm sure most guys here can relate. I don't know what it is.

It's a bit like the thought of a cold beer on a hot day being better that actually having a cold beer on a hot day. Not that having a cold beer is bad. It's just that having it doesn't live up to your expectations when you are thinking about how good it would be to have.

I think lots of guys are looking for the girls who they don't feel like this about the next morning. When they find them, then they are ready for a more serious relationships. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the girls they walked away from either. It's just that the mornings after are the reality and reality are rarely as good as the fantasy of the night before.

Or maybe I was the only one who was like that.
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed
There's a weird sort of buyer's remorse that hits a guy after he sleeps with a woman he's been chasing. I felt it when I was younger. I'm sure most guys here can relate. I don't know what it is.

It's a bit like the thought of a cold beer on a hot day being better that actually having a cold beer on a hot day. Not that having a cold beer is bad. It's just that having it doesn't live up to your expectations when you are thinking about how good it would be to have.

I think lots of guys are looking for the girls who they don't feel like this about the next morning. When they find them, then they are ready for a more serious relationships. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the girls they walked away from either. It's just that the mornings after are the reality and reality are rarely as good as the fantasy of the night before.

Or maybe I was the only one who was like that.
i think its just the need to bust is greater than sex. srs.. just that feeling in your nuts you need to get rid of

maybe it would be different if men could have orgasms longer than 6 seconds
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Originally Posted By TommyRO
I'll put it this way, anyone coming out of a major uni as a virgin is a weird fuker out here so guess different perspectives. Marrying a virgin is not practical.
Originally Posted By TommyRO
But it's usually true even the weirdest furry and anime weibo or w.e they call them had opportunities. Unless of course they never socialized with anyone which just lol
1. Those demographics don't exist here. They'd be cast out from society, Poland doesn't have any tolerance for weirdos. Even homosexuals have to keep it under lock and key.

2. In Poland people actually study during uni. They study their balls off because if they fail it means a life of poverty. Unlike the US where you can just ride on government handouts. Also, it's not a frat/sorority house phuck fest like in the US.

3. A lot of girls marry their first partner here. Because dating around is a weird concept. Are most relationships impractical as a result? How are the divorce rates going in the US?

Do you think American culture is richer as a result of the modern dating approach? Where it's normal to spin plates?
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
I think itโ€™s just some evolutionary remnant from male instinct to spread their seed to as many females as possible. As soon as sex is over the natural male instinct would be to leave and to go impregnate another female.

Obviously now that humans are more evolved men can also feel attachment and bonding emotions and morals and they can be monogamous etc, but that initial instinct is still also there somewhere under the surface.
You should read up on r/K selection theory. There are environmental factors, which humans could be adaptive towards (since we're a highly dynamic species). Some argue that's why dysfunctional women (abused, bad divorce etc), exhibit high levels of promiscuity. I think it's more down to extremely low self-esteem and desiring intimacy at any cost though.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
I think itโ€™s just some evolutionary remnant from male instinct to spread their seed to as many females as possible. As soon as sex is over the natural male instinct would be to leave and to go impregnate another female.

Obviously now that humans are more evolved men can also feel attachment and bonding emotions and morals and they can be monogamous etc, but that initial instinct is still also there somewhere under the surface.
I think that does make sense within its own frame

But i dont believe humans were promiscuous. Just doesnt make sense. I believe the natural order is monogamy. I think mostly in regard to raising kids

I think wed have adaptations where its not even a question - like the pair bonding and what not
Women wouldnt even question it
Society would just be structured completely different


But i guess youd have to go back pre-religion, and i know that science doesnt know 100%

Humans giving into temptation isnt the same thing imo
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
I think itโ€™s just some evolutionary remnant from male instinct to spread their seed to as many females as possible. As soon as sex is over the natural male instinct would be to leave and to go impregnate another female.
Male and female orgasms are different.

A female orgasm leaves a woman feeling euphoric. A male orgasm leaves a man feeling relieved. That's why the desire for sex is different between men and women. Men don't have sex with lots of women in order to have lots of kids, men are driven to have lots of sex because there is a constant tension that builds up that needs to be relieved. If one woman can't or won't meet his needs, he'll seek others. It's a biological drive.

If a woman meets a man's need for frequent sex, he has no biological incentive to cheat on her.
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed
Male and female orgasms are different.

A female orgasm leaves a woman feeling euphoric. A male orgasm leaves a man feeling relieved.That's why the desire for sex is different between men and women. Men don't have sex with lots of women in order to have lots of kids, men are driven to have lots of sex because there is a constant tension that builds up that needs to be relieved. If one woman can't or won't meet his needs, he'll seek others. It's a biological drive.

If a woman meets a man's need for frequent sex, he has no biological incentive to cheat on her.
Pretty interesting, can females confirm? Seems to make sense now that I think about it.
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I imagine it is pretty late to leave a serious comment here, but the answer to this is that it is pretty much harder for anyone who lacks anything like a great physical appearance and/or communication skills when it comes to dating. Doesn't really matter what gender you are at a certain point, some people are just the type of person that online works best for while others can have a much harder time with the concept.
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer
Pretty interesting, can females confirm? Seems to make sense now that I think about it.
Apparently female orgasm activate the periaqueductal gray part of the brain, while male orgasms do not. The periaqueductal gray is a part of the brain that controls pain by releasing serotonin (which causes feelings of happiness).
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed
Apparently female orgasm activate the periaqueductal gray part of the brain, while male orgasms do not. The periaqueductal gray is a part of the brain that controls pain by releasing serotonin (which causes feelings of happiness).
I defintently feel euphoria, almost like Iโ€™ve been turned into jelly. My whole body is tingly and I canโ€™t think clearly for a while.

I usually also have a few if heโ€™s doing it right.

Idk about feeling instantly bonded. That takes a few times. I certainly couldnโ€™t sleep with a guy on the regular and not catch feelings, or at least get comfortable.

Iโ€™m naturally monogamous. Sounds silly but if heโ€™s handling his business, I feel absolutely no need to seek out other men because I donโ€™t think theyโ€™ll be as good as the one Iโ€™ve got, so why?

Even when Iโ€™m unhappy I tend to try to fix rather than cut and run. I donโ€™t like wasting time and I invest a lot into people I care about, so I want a return so to speak.

Also to the poster who said he does what Lucifer says some guys do: please donโ€™t. It can really traumatize a girl and Iโ€™m not exaggerating. Like lifelong trauma.

Go find someone else if you donโ€™t like her. Donโ€™t lie.

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Originally Posted By Maylie
You make a great point, and I get that itโ€™s harder for men to get a womanโ€™s attention, but if you were female, youโ€™d realize how dirty and cheap you feel when a guy makes it clear he just wants in your panties. Itโ€™s not flattering. Itโ€™s not even about abdundance.

Sexual dynamics are a lot difference from our POV.

Itโ€™s also not true that only Chad tries to smash and dash. Timothy tries too. Look at those videos of women walking through NYC and all the undesirables who say vulgar things to them. They are certainly not Chad. Plenty of wannabe pick up artists (and there are lots on dating sites) are ugly as fukk, but have bought into the tripe that looks donโ€™t really matter and they are just looking to smash.

They have a 0% percent success rate but they try.

Both A and B sound like they suck.

I hope everyone manages to find someone at the end of the day, and I donโ€™t doubt that itโ€™s tougher for guys but some miscers are deluded about the female existence being an endless stream of validation.

Women do not receive validation in the same way men do.
his point is exactly what I'm trying to get you to understand and truly acknowledge. Also, you seem to only notice the "players" and "skeezy" men.

there are a HUGE class of men in the middle that have their chit together, and are looking for a life partner, have reasonable standards but continously get rejected because they aren't at the top echelon.

I'm talking to 5 foot 9 guy who is in good shape and makes 75K a year and just wants a girl that is also in decent shape and is reasonably cute, but she wants a guy who is HAWT HAWT HAWT and is tall, dark, etc.

I would classify myself in that middle ground, and I struggle just to get a date with a girl that I am attracted to (not fat and nice).
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Originally Posted By TommyRO
I'll put it this way, anyone coming out of a major uni as a virgin is a weird fuker out here so guess different perspectives. Marrying a virgin is not practical.
Some people are late bloomers or simply focused on other things
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The conclusion is ?
There is no conclusion.

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There's really no point in explaining men's plight in the dating market to women. They will never get it, I don't think they are capable of getting it. Like, you can explain it, and they can understand the logic of it, but it never sinks in.

Women are just not capable of empathy in this regard. I honestly think it's hardwired in every women to ignore it.

Just think, it would be an evolutionary advantage if a women didn't care about male hardships in the dating market and only focused on her getting the best genes/provisioning for herself compared to somebody who empathized. It's why 80% of women throughout human history managed to reproduce compared to only 40% of men.

Such is life.
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Originally Posted By hoganrulz
There is no conclusion.

Misc will debate the chastity of women and women on misc will debate the chastity of men till the sun's battery runs out.
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There's really no point in explaining men's plight in the dating market to women. They will never get it, I don't think they are capable of getting it. Like, you can explain it, and they can understand the logic of it, but it never sinks in.

Women are just not capable of empathy in this regard. I honestly think it's hardwired in every women to ignore it.

Just think, it would be an evolutionary advantage if a women didn't care about male hardships in the dating market and only focused on her getting the best genes/provisioning for herself compared to somebody who empathized. It's why 80% of women throughout human history managed to reproduce compared to only 40% of men.

Such is life.
I actually think that dating as a woman is much more easier than being a man and trying to find a partner. Fine, you lave lots of options and you may get confused, but if you filter them by more than looks, you will meet awesome people. Furthermore, you are naive af if you think Chad is on Tinder for a serious relationship and I think it's pretty easy to avoid fukboys. I personally never been played by one.

Also, being a woman is easier if you work in an office where lots of guys work. Being a woman is also easier in most of the social contexts. I think the type of woman you are plays a huge role, if you seem serious and responsible, guys approach you differently.

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Originally Posted By psychosylocibin
his point is exactly what I'm trying to get you to understand and truly acknowledge. Also, you seem to only notice the "players" and "skeezy" men.

there are a HUGE class of men in the middle that have their chit together, and are looking for a life partner, have reasonable standards but continously get rejected because they aren't at the top echelon.

I'm talking to 5 foot 9 guy who is in good shape and makes 75K a year and just wants a girl that is also in decent shape and is reasonably cute, but she wants a guy who is HAWT HAWT HAWT and is tall, dark, etc.

I would classify myself in that middle ground, and I struggle just to get a date with a girl that I am attracted to (not fat and nice).
Even tho this has some truth, you can't get hung up on it if you're in that 5'9'', 75k/year category. Eventually it will manifest in your thoughts and behaviors.

There's plenty of manlet dudes who slay in the dating world. I've actually seen more sub 6 foot, average income guys with hot girls than anything else. Ask any guy or girl what their ideal partner is and it's not likely to match up with who they date, and not just because they're settling.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
I think itโ€™s just some evolutionary remnant from male instinct to spread their seed to as many females as possible. As soon as sex is over the natural male instinct would be to leave and to go impregnate another female.

Obviously now that humans are more evolved men can also feel attachment and bonding emotions and morals and they can be monogamous etc, but that initial instinct is still also there somewhere under the surface.
No offense, but you seem to have a very superficial understanding of these issues. Your statement is partially true, but it's oversimplified and comes across as bro-science. First, humans evolved throughout the Pleistocene period; the few hundred years of modern society are not nearly enough time to allow for the type of adaptations that have already occurred in the realm of psychology and neurology. Secondly, despite differences in parental investment between males and females, men were always capable of emotion, bonding, and displaying morals. In fact, some biologists have argued that in the absence of bonding, cooperation, and empathy, consciousness would not have developed in homo-sapiens. Humans evolved in tightly knit communities and tribes, not as isolated wanderers. Even Steven Pinker, the misc's favorite evolutionary theorist, would agree with this.
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