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11-17-2018, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted By SpeedCheeser⏩
Expectations of gun banners being ok with any kind of gun? LOLNow this one I would seriously doubt.
The general public had no idea bump fire stocks existed and have no clue what the law is regarding rifle, SBRs, and pistols. The general public does know (or at least has a perception of) machine guns and know they're effectively banned and super scary.
The only reason that anyone knows what a bump fire stock is today is because someone used one in a really bad shooting, and there are several videos of it. The audio sounds very similar to machine gun fire. Convincing the masses that bump fire stocks essentially turn a run of the mill "assault weapon" into a machine gun isn't difficult and obvious why people should think they should be banned. Even by "pro 2nd" people. Even by NRA people.
Most people have no damn clue what a pistol brace is, that rifles under a certain length are bannedish, or what an AR pistol is, which in my experience includes some cops as well. For most people, an AR pistol is just an AR (rifle) and no different than other rifles. Even if someone were to use an AR pistol in a high profile shooting and it becomes known to the public, I'd imagine the general sentiment would be confusion as to why it matters that it was shorter than an arbitrary length. Or maybe I'm just too optimistic. But best case scenario (for the gun grabbers) would be to argue that they used a part to convert a pistol into an "assault rifle". I'd think (hope) that even the antis have to realize how absurd that is.
The general public had no idea bump fire stocks existed and have no clue what the law is regarding rifle, SBRs, and pistols. The general public does know (or at least has a perception of) machine guns and know they're effectively banned and super scary.
The only reason that anyone knows what a bump fire stock is today is because someone used one in a really bad shooting, and there are several videos of it. The audio sounds very similar to machine gun fire. Convincing the masses that bump fire stocks essentially turn a run of the mill "assault weapon" into a machine gun isn't difficult and obvious why people should think they should be banned. Even by "pro 2nd" people. Even by NRA people.
Most people have no damn clue what a pistol brace is, that rifles under a certain length are bannedish, or what an AR pistol is, which in my experience includes some cops as well. For most people, an AR pistol is just an AR (rifle) and no different than other rifles. Even if someone were to use an AR pistol in a high profile shooting and it becomes known to the public, I'd imagine the general sentiment would be confusion as to why it matters that it was shorter than an arbitrary length. Or maybe I'm just too optimistic. But best case scenario (for the gun grabbers) would be to argue that they used a part to convert a pistol into an "assault rifle". I'd think (hope) that even the antis have to realize how absurd that is.
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11-17-2018, 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted By 28maynard⏩
Ahh phuck. Will probably end up buying the 16” SS410 with Centurion C4 12” rail.BCM has a few uppers on sale. Not a lot to choose from but the prices are pretty good. The discount can be seen once added to your cart
https://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Uppe...Sale-s/234.htm
https://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Uppe...Sale-s/234.htm
Or the 16” SS410 with the Daniel Defemse DDM4 rail.
The Daniel Defense railed one before sale is $1150 with the BCG and charging handle. After sale it’s 750. Don’t think I can pass that up.
I have a Centurion C4 rail on my colt 6920 already and I think the DD is a bit slimmer and lighter. And I need an upper for a 1-4 Accupower so can’t oass that up right? RIGHT?
11-17-2018, 06:20 AM
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Morning, MFC. Some wicked good early bird deals on food storage atwww.beprepared.com
Also, got my front windows tinted to match the rears last night. Looks so much better

Also, got my front windows tinted to match the rears last night. Looks so much better
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11-17-2018, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted By SpeedCheeser⏩
Which is why they would be perfectly fine with a banMost people have no damn clue what a pistol brace is,
The antis and most libs and most dems and that means many politicanswantany and all infringements or bans they can get. And most people DGAF about it. Definitely a real possibility.
11-17-2018, 06:38 AM
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11-17-2018, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
The lefty politicians do it purely to help with getting elected/reelected. Their sheeple base has been brainwashed into fearing and hating anything firearm related, so them running on a anti-gun platform and pushing through anti-gun legislation benefits them. It's purely selfish motivations at work, I'd bet the majority of these politicians don't even give a fuk about the anti-gun agenda on a personal level, it's just leverage for advancing their career.Which is why they would be perfectly fine with a ban
The antis and most libs and most dems and that means many politicanswantany and all infringements or bans they can get. And most people DGAF about it. Definitely a real possibility.
The antis and most libs and most dems and that means many politicanswantany and all infringements or bans they can get. And most people DGAF about it. Definitely a real possibility.
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11-17-2018, 06:42 AM
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Why talk her out of it if she liked it, BOZZ? Aware me on P365
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11-17-2018, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted By Hartski⏩
It's been discussed a ton in here since it came out and on an ongoing basis. People just don't trust it (or Sig) right now because they rushed it to market without thoroughly testing it and having their production/procurement processes all rock solid. It's a game changer in terms of design with the size and capacity, but Sig essentially beta tested it on their customers. People had broken strikers due to poor MIM processes/materials, extreme primer drag or both. Springs would break or come loose. Both of those conditions rendered a gun released primarily for the concealed carry market useless without warning and sometimes after a pretty low round count. Several people here had them and ended up selling due to either seeing some of those issues or just having legit questions/concerns as to whether or not they got one of the bad ones . . . and not wanting to find out if they ended up in a life threatening situation.Why talk her out of it if she liked it, BOZZ? Aware me on P365
Add onto that some other examples of being rushed to market and you have a profound distrust of the company and the product. Sig has made a ton of changes due to those issues and the P365 "seems" to be more trustworthy now--at least compared to where it was on initial release. But many here are of the opinion that they'll wait another year or so to see what else pops up and to let Sig get their collective act together before buying. It's a shame, because the P365 is an exciting, disruptive design and I want to like it. I just am not ready to trust it over my Shield or other options right now.
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11-17-2018, 07:42 AM
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Ah, OK. Not much of a SIG guy, so I never paid that much attention.
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11-17-2018, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted By Hartski⏩
Pretty good vid here that goes over some of the issues, what's changed and how a more recently manufactured version fared.Ah, OK. Not much of a SIG guy, so I never paid that much attention.
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11-17-2018, 07:50 AM
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Damn well ate near the whole lb bag of those pretzels last night. With the zzzquil and not drinking enough water from my gallon jug I woke up with a crazy dry mouth and a horrible tummy ache
Pepole ITT afraid to bring more everyday, 365 days a year. people have been saying wait a year since feb/march of this year so it's about time
Pepole ITT afraid to bring more everyday, 365 days a year. people have been saying wait a year since feb/march of this year so it's about time
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11-17-2018, 08:07 AM
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11-17-2018, 09:04 AM
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Only took me 6 years, but I FINALLY have everything submitted for my CCL. Just waiting on the card itself. I’ve been carrying in my car, because it’s legal here, but now I can have it on my person. Feelsgoodman.gif
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11-17-2018, 09:09 AM
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11-17-2018, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted By Hartski⏩
Da Fuk? Who you?Why talk her out of it if she liked it, BOZZ? Aware me on P365
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11-17-2018, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted By harmsxwhey⏩
In before Tim Kennedy hand delivers the CCL himself, rings the door bell, you answer and are greeted withOnly took me 6 years, but I FINALLY have everything submitted for my CCL. Just waiting on the card itself. I’ve been carrying in my car, because it’s legal here, but now I can have it on my person. Feelsgoodman.gif
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11-17-2018, 09:13 AM
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11-17-2018, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted By BOZZ⏩
You don't need a fully semi-automatic weapon to protect yourself from a tyrranical gubmint . . . which just threatened to nuke you if you don't submit to unconstitutional confiscation by a tyrranical gubmint.How did I miss this Swalwell tweet yesterday? Libs gonna libtard...
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11-17-2018, 09:21 AM
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**** we need rain, this smoke is killing me. Upside is the resorts are open so first day we get rain/snow I'm going snowboarding.
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11-17-2018, 09:40 AM
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We got a few inches of snow last night and the ski slopes are open. Yes, Iowa has ski slopes
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11-17-2018, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted By taf1968⏩
That's it.It's been discussed a ton in here since it came out and on an ongoing basis. People just don't trust it (or Sig) right now because they rushed it to market without thoroughly testing it and having their production/procurement processes all rock solid. It's a game changer in terms of design with the size and capacity, but Sig essentially beta tested it on their customers. People had broken strikers due to poor MIM processes/materials, extreme primer drag or both. Springs would break or come loose. Both of those conditions rendered a gun released primarily for the concealed carry market useless without warning and sometimes after a pretty low round count. Several people here had them and ended up selling due to either seeing some of those issues or just having legit questions/concerns as to whether or not they got one of the bad ones . . . and not wanting to find out if they ended up in a life threatening situation.
Add onto that some other examples of being rushed to market and you have a profound distrust of the company and the product. Sig has made a ton of changes due to those issues and the P365 "seems" to be more trustworthy now--at least compared to where it was on initial release. But many here are of the opinion that they'll wait another year or so to see what else pops up and to let Sig get their collective act together before buying. It's a shame, because the P365 is an exciting, disruptive design and I want to like it. I just am not ready to trust it over my Shield or other options right now.
Add onto that some other examples of being rushed to market and you have a profound distrust of the company and the product. Sig has made a ton of changes due to those issues and the P365 "seems" to be more trustworthy now--at least compared to where it was on initial release. But many here are of the opinion that they'll wait another year or so to see what else pops up and to let Sig get their collective act together before buying. It's a shame, because the P365 is an exciting, disruptive design and I want to like it. I just am not ready to trust it over my Shield or other options right now.
It shoots great for the size but that sudden breakage factor with no warning, no thanks
ETA, I had 2. Both had epic primer swipes, one the barrel at 1k rounds looked like a real manufacturers barrel at 30k, and had major preening even though it was a bxr8 or whatever with relief cuts. Sig said it was all normal. Not dealing with all that. Sold both
11-17-2018, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted By BOZZ⏩
I just came out of that rabbit hole. What a moron.How did I miss this Swalwell tweet yesterday? Libs gonna libtard...
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11-17-2018, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Expectations of gun banners being ok with any kind of gun? LOL
Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Yeah, at the end of it all you're probably right.Which is why they would be perfectly fine with a ban
The antis and most libs and most dems and that means many politicanswantany and all infringements or bans they can get. And most people DGAF about it. Definitely a real possibility.
The antis and most libs and most dems and that means many politicanswantany and all infringements or bans they can get. And most people DGAF about it. Definitely a real possibility.
Originally Posted By harmsxwhey⏩
Congrats, man. I actually did the same thing for a while. Just got my 5 year renewal a few months ago.Only took me 6 years, but I FINALLY have everything submitted for my CCL. Just waiting on the card itself. I’ve been carrying in my car, because it’s legal here, but now I can have it on my person. Feelsgoodman.gif
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11-17-2018, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted By Meatie⏩
I feel like I’ve dreamt of this before.In before Tim Kennedy hand delivers the CCL himself, rings the door bell, you answer and are greeted with
"Whats up ya texas head? down for some quesadillems triple sour cream and then off to the range?"
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11-17-2018, 10:51 AM
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I’ve always wanted one but RDR2 is going to make me pull the trigger.


11-17-2018, 10:56 AM
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Morning MFC,
Been reading about how Form 1s are getting approved and stamps sent out within 30 days right now through eForm. It's tempting to put a few through right now in the event that they do start going after pistol braces again and cause a massive about of submissions again like what happened after 41F.
Been reading about how Form 1s are getting approved and stamps sent out within 30 days right now through eForm. It's tempting to put a few through right now in the event that they do start going after pistol braces again and cause a massive about of submissions again like what happened after 41F.
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11-17-2018, 04:20 PM
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sup bros?
picked up my .308 lower, was told they gave me a discount because holiday. told me i could buy another at the same price so i did. i really like the 16" DPMS oracle, so i figure one build will be that, the other m-lok 20"
picked up my .308 lower, was told they gave me a discount because holiday. told me i could buy another at the same price so i did. i really like the 16" DPMS oracle, so i figure one build will be that, the other m-lok 20"
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11-17-2018, 04:31 PM
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all day my mouth was dry and my stomach was fuked up
i guess thats what happens when you eat the whole bag of xs big DOT PRETZELS in under one day. Got a gallon of water and a huge bottle of body armor to rehydrate
took my Ruger LCP 2 out and rapid fired it. you wanna talk about barrel peening, and hilariously bad wear, my Ruger has it. not even 500 rounds through it. Buncha hot headed ruger heads with southern accents itt
i guess thats what happens when you eat the whole bag of xs big DOT PRETZELS in under one day. Got a gallon of water and a huge bottle of body armor to rehydrate
took my Ruger LCP 2 out and rapid fired it. you wanna talk about barrel peening, and hilariously bad wear, my Ruger has it. not even 500 rounds through it. Buncha hot headed ruger heads with southern accents itt
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11-17-2018, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted By 4ea⏩
Nice! Hopefully we’ll be finishing my kiddo’s build in the next few weeks. He’s been putting it off while finishing school. He’ll be done December 13.sup bros?
picked up my .308 lower, was told they gave me a discount because holiday. told me i could buy another at the same price so i did. i really like the 16" DPMS oracle, so i figure one build will be that, the other m-lok 20"
picked up my .308 lower, was told they gave me a discount because holiday. told me i could buy another at the same price so i did. i really like the 16" DPMS oracle, so i figure one build will be that, the other m-lok 20"
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11-17-2018, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted By PapaBurgandy⏩
i hear ya man, need to make sure everything is exactly the way you want it on a build. you doing a 5.56 build?Nice! Hopefully we’ll be finishing my kiddo’s build in the next few weeks. He’s been putting it off while finishing school. He’ll be done December 13.
that would probably take more thought than .308 because theres more options. what do you guys have on the new rifle so far?
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