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post 1566867191 11-22-2018, 07:16 AM
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I'm just glad we dodged the Clinton Death Train, OP.
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Originally Posted By pantiespending
I’d be interested in joining up and plan on trying

No intentions of fighting the cause
If I was as convinced as some of these people of government involvement, I would absolutely do much much more than simply spew some bs on bb.com forums every time the topic is brought up. I would lose sleep over it. I would be relentless about proving it to the world.

But nope, these guys just live their normals lives, then when someone else brings it up online, that is when it is a big deal to them for a short period of time.
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Originally Posted By cjr169
no I havent enlighten us


Perfect example of testimony of someone from the inside involved linking multiple acts separately talked about...

All attempted to have been covered up...

Listen to the whole thing... otherwise it’s pointless
Originally Posted By Ironmanlet
If I was as convinced as some of these people of government involvement, I would absolutely do much much more than simply spew some bs on bb.com forums every time the topic is brought up. I would lose sleep over it. I would be relentless about proving it to the world.

But nope, these guys just live their normals lives, then when someone else brings it up online, that is when it is a big deal to them for a short period of time.
I was just offering some conjecture either I wasn’t really trying to go all SJW.

And when I said I wanted to try to join I didn’t mean to combat fallout from this event. I just really want to work for intelligence agencies.
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Wouldn't surprise me if most of these conspiracy *******s weren't even alive when it happened.
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Originally Posted By HungLikeJesus
there have been numerous eye witness, first responder, firefighter, ex military personnel, architect, engineer and scientist testimony that conflicts with the official government narrative. just because those involved havent decided to admit their guilt, it doesn't automatically mean they werent responsible, it just means the small faction who did it are good at keeping their secrets. if you are good to disregard every single coincidence, conflict of interest, cover up and outright lie because "no one has spoken up", then i dont know what else to tell you.
You're not understanding.

It would not be a small fraction it would require HUNDREDS of planners to pull this off.

Life isnt a movie, do you really think some shadowy CIA man met with like a handful of dudes and that's it?

You're also missing that THERE WOULD BE DOCUMENTS. SO MANY DOCUMENTS. Someone somewhere would have received information regarding this. Again this shows your ignorance on how anything regarding operations works. Theres no handshake wink wink agreements, even the most classified ops have tons of paperwork it's just all redacted.

I couldnt care less about what some firefighters eyewitness or whatever have to say. At this point they're unreliable and likely saying things to fit the narrative.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...-eyes-have-it/

Witness recall/memory is a real problem in the legal system.

anyway whatever I've got some shiner holiday cheers to drink enough with the tinfoil hat bs
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet
If I was as convinced as some of these people of government involvement, I would absolutely do much much more than simply spew some bs on bb.com forums every time the topic is brought up. I would lose sleep over it. I would be relentless about proving it to the world.

But nope, these guys just live their normals lives, then when someone else brings it up online, that is when it is a big deal to them for a short period of time.
losing sleep over it isn't going to do much, and who's to say people havent lost sleep over it? i'm sure the victims families who protested for a proper investigation and trial in court, who were eventually paid out and ignored, lost a chit ton of sleep surrounding the many unanswered questions when it comes to the death of their loved ones.

also, there are thousands of people out there doing their part in shedding light on it. you thinking believers are just sitting by doing nothing proves to me you've done next to no research, or outright completely disregard legitimate findings that contradict the official version.
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Originally Posted By HungLikeJesus
losing sleep over it isn't going to do much, and who's to say people havent lost sleep over it? i'm sure the victims families who protested for a proper investigation and trial in court, who were eventually paid out and ignored, lost a chit ton of sleep surrounding the many unanswered questions when it comes to the death of their loved ones.

also, there are thousands of people out there doing their part in shedding light on it. you thinking believers are just sitting by doing nothing proves to me you've done next to no research, or outright completely disregard legitimate findings that contradict the official version.
WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE BOOK!!??!!


You are doing a really good job at destroying your own credibility and thought process along with it.
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Originally Posted By cjr169
You're not understanding.

It would not be a small fraction it would require HUNDREDS of planners to pull this off.

Life isnt a movie, do you really think some shadowy CIA man met with like a handful of dudes and that's it?

You're also missing that THERE WOULD BE DOCUMENTS. SO MANY DOCUMENTS. Someone somewhere would have received information regarding this. Again this shows your ignorance on how anything regarding operations works. Theres no handshake wink wink agreements, even the most classified ops have tons of paperwork it's just all redacted.

I couldnt care less about what some firefighters eyewitness or whatever have to say. At this point they're unreliable and likely saying things to fit the narrative.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...-eyes-have-it/

Witness recall/memory is a real problem in the legal system.

anyway whatever I've got some shiner holiday cheers to drink enough with the tinfoil hat bs
small "faction", as in the cabal.

i think it's amusing you believe the elites are 100% transparent, and that they dont do chit that the masses have absolutely 0 knowledge about.

and yeah, it's the first responders, eye witnesses and firefighters who are part of their own conspiracy in an attempt to destroy the american governments credibility. wouldnt have anything to do with telling the story about one of the worst days of their lives, and trying to get the truth out. it's the government who are the reliable ones
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet
WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE BOOK!!??!!


You are doing a really good job at destroying your own credibility and thought process along with it.
dude, if you read my response to you in its entirety, it clearly has the name of the book in one of the first quotes. why should i bother repeating myself if you're going to skim over chit anyway?
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp
People who think 911 was an inside job are either mentally ill or gullible.

A couple of reasons:

It was a false flag to justify invading Afghanistan and/or Iraq

Can someone explain this one to me? Why the fuk would anyone want to invade those countries? Just LOL @ anyone claiming 'oil' like some sheep. If those countries were so oil rich then why were/are they complete chitholes? If the west wanted a monopoly on oil, wouldn't it be better to create a false flag to invade Saudi Arabia instead? Also - people forget the first gulf war, the West had already legitimately invaded Iraq, so why leave and then decide to go back a decade later?

And now the west has largely left those countries, what exactly have they achieved at the end of all this? The Americans failed to setup an Iraqi army capable of fighting off insurgents, and instead it turned out to be a huge waste of time, lives and assets.

I'm sure if justification was to be garnered from the public to invade a chithole, 'they' could come up with a far less destructive way to do it.

It was orchestrated by the CIA or some sinister cabal

Again - what's the point? What has been achieved after all these years?

And just LMFAO if you think a country that struggles to defeat a bunch of insurgents in the middle east or farmers in vietnam could orchestrate such a flawless terrorists attack and for it all to work so perfectly. Couple that with the notion of hundreds of thousands of insiders never blowing the whistle on the whole charade?
no idea if the cia did it or not, but tbh 9/11 events are shady, same as the jfk assassination .


and answering your question , we invaded iraq based on Kuwait ,saudi arabia and united arab emirates request . The Iraqis invaded Kuwait and wanted to go all the way to the uae and saudi arabia.....
the reason we are controlling the middle eastern countries is actually oil, whether you like it or not, oil is the thing that drives the world.

the biggest oil reserve countries are

Venezuela <---- the sh!ttiest economy on earth, we dont allow them to grow

saudi arabia <--- we have them in our pocket

iran <---- the reason we invaded afghanistan and iraq is to corner iran "look at the world map" "http://link-italia.org/images/copy-global-map-of-the-world-2.gif"

iraq <------ we have them in our other pocket

kuwait <----------- why we orchestrated the iraqi invasion




its all about global power, and us being in south korea,japan,afghanistan ,pakistan so we could have a foothold next to the russians and chinese.... we are the greatest empire on earth, and nothing we do is based on arbitrary decisions... we plan centuries ahead of time
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Originally Posted By HungLikeJesus
dude, if you read my response to you in its entirety, it clearly has the name of the book in one of the first quotes. why should i bother repeating myself if you're going to skim over chit anyway?
My bad. I just saw it. BRB, ordering.
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http://peoplespatriotnetwork.com/new...cody-snodgres/

Interesting link about some of the ops he was involved with...

Just so happens many of the videos on the page have been removed but, a lot is talked about in the link I posted.

Dude was ex cia
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So how did the CIA get these Muslim extremists in on their plan? We know who those people were, where they came from. You're saying they gave up their lives to make Raytheon executives who are already rich even richer?

So then they covertly planted thousands of lbs of explosives and perfectly coordinated the planes with the demolition? Lmao! Why even bother with the planes? If it was an inside job they would just say someone drove a fertilizer truck into the basement like they did in Oklahoma when they started the war on redneck militias.
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Originally Posted By Kev1972
So how did the CIA get these Muslim extremists in on their plan? We know who those people were, where they came from. You're saying they gave up their lives to make Raytheon executives who are already rich even richer?

So then they covertly planted thousands of lbs of explosives and perfectly coordinated the planes with the demolition? Lmao! Why even bother with the planes? If it was an inside job they would just say someone drove a fertilizer truck into the basement like they did in Oklahoma when they started the war on redneck militias.
Interestingly enough that Oklahoma chit is covered in that interview by the ex cia dude I posted about
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet
My bad. I just saw it. BRB, ordering.
while you're at it, order this one as well.

https://www.amazon.com/11-Commission.../dp/1566565847
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Originally Posted By Kev1972
So how did the CIA get these Muslim extremists in on their plan? We know who those people were, where they came from. You're saying they gave up their lives to make Raytheon executives who are already rich even richer?

So then they covertly planted thousands of lbs of explosives and perfectly coordinated the planes with the demolition? Lmao! Why even bother with the planes? If it was an inside job they would just say someone drove a fertilizer truck into the basement like they did in Oklahoma when they started the war on redneck militias.
what muslim extremists?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unmanned_aerial_vehicleunmanned aircraft drone technology has been around for decades.
or are you talking about the hijacker whose passport survived the impact and was found by the local police department? the same impact that completely destroyed all blackboxes?

the planes were absolutely necessary, if the buildings turned to dust and came down at free fall by themselves, how would the government explain that one away? at least people can be convinced that the towers came down as they did due to an aircraft impact, driving a truck bomb into the basement would have been a bit trickier.

the plane impact and demolition of the buildings were 2 seperate events. nano thermite was found in the dust when studied by independent scientists, when you've got 24/7 control of security and thus the elevator shafts, it's not inconceivable that an incendiary like nano thermite was applied to all the core and outward columns over a period of a couple of months leading up to the event.
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Originally Posted By HungLikeJesus
what muslim extremists?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unmanned_aerial_vehicleunmanned aircraft drone technology has been around for decades.
or are you talking about the hijacker whose passport survived the impact and was found by the local police department? the same impact that completely destroyed all blackboxes?

the planes were absolutely necessary, if the buildings turned to dust and came down at free fall by themselves, how would the government explain that one away? at least people can be convinced that the towers came down as they did due to an aircraft impact, driving a truck bomb into the basement would have been a bit trickier.

the plane impact and demolition of the buildings were 2 seperate events. nano thermite was found in the dust when studied by independent scientists, when you've got 24/7 control of security and thus the elevator shafts, it's not inconceivable that an incendiary like nano thermite was applied to all the core and outward columns over a period of a couple of months leading up to the event.
The ones who were taking over the flight in Pennsylvania when the dudes on their cellphones fought back? Or were they invented by the CIA too? I guess the CIA planted the cell phone calls and used authentic voice actors to fool the families? And they pinged all the proper cell towers at the right time so that no one at Verizon would get suspicious? You tards are hilarious!
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Theres no point in arguing these loonies are so dogmatic about this its borderline a religion
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Originally Posted By Kev1972
The ones who were taking over the flight in Pennsylvania when the dudes on their cellphones fought back? Or were they invented by the CIA too? I guess the CIA planted the cell phone calls and used authentic voice actors to fool the families? And they pinged all the proper cell towers at the right time so that no one at Verizon would get suspicious? You tards are hilarious!
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE
no idea if the cia did it or not, but tbh 9/11 events are shady, same as the jfk assassination .


and answering your question , we invaded iraq based on Kuwait ,saudi arabia and united arab emirates request . The Iraqis invaded Kuwait and wanted to go all the way to the uae and saudi arabia.....
the reason we are controlling the middle eastern countries is actually oil, whether you like it or not, oil is the thing that drives the world.

the biggest oil reserve countries are

Venezuela <---- the sh!ttiest economy on earth, we dont allow them to grow

saudi arabia <--- we have them in our pocket

iran <---- the reason we invaded afghanistan and iraq is to corner iran "look at the world map" "http://link-italia.org/images/copy-global-map-of-the-world-2.gif"

iraq <------ we have them in our other pocket

kuwait <----------- why we orchestrated the iraqi invasion




its all about global power, and us being in south korea,japan,afghanistan ,pakistan so we could have a foothold next to the russians and chinese.... we are the greatest empire on earth, and nothing we do is based on arbitrary decisions... we plan centuries ahead of time
So.....remind me again why the USA orchestrated 911 as justification to invade Iraq when they had the perfect excuse in the first place (1990 Kuwait invasion)??

All the USA had to do was stay there and you could have saved 4,000 innocent US lives and the twin towers.

With zero risk.

I'll wait.
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Originally Posted By cjr169
Theres no point in arguing these loonies are so dogmatic about this its borderline a religion
what exactly have i said that is wrong? im just putting forward a few points as to why i believe the cabal were involved and that the official narrative is full of holes. and what i've said here is just the tip of the iceberg.
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Originally Posted By Xgamer791
I don’t have all the answers, I just know bull**** when I see it.
"I don’t have all the answers, I just know bull**** when I see it."

This man gets it. We'll never know what really happened, but I know some bull chit when I'm being fed it.

I always explain it like this: 3 buildings collapsing damn near perfectly into their basements with out planning, on the same is pretty much statistically impossible, so I don't buy it. Don't care what other bull **** angle you want to take, that is impossible. And from there things just get shadier as you look into the Saudis etc etc fill in conspiracy here
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp
So.....remind me again why the USA orchestrated 911 as justification to invade Iraq when they had the perfect excuse in the first place (1990 Kuwait invasion)??

All the USA had to do was stay there and you could have saved 4,000 innocent US lives and the twin towers.

With zero risk.

I'll wait.
absolute and concrete american public support to go to war against the middle east immediately. the shock factor 9/11 produced among the masses was unprecedented. it put into the public mind a clear and definitive enemy. also, as previously stated, it gave the bush administration full power to implement new policies and increase military funding.

anyway it's been fun guys, but i see some of you are getting a bit upset when presented with a few tidbits of info, resorting to the usual "conspiracy loony" argument when unable to form any sort of reasonable or coherent response. i'll show myself out.
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Originally Posted By HungLikeJesus
absolute and concrete american public support to go to war against the middle east immediately. the shock factor 9/11 produced among the masses was unprecedented. also, as previously stated, it gave the bush administration full power to implement new policies and increase military funding.
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp
So.....remind me again why the USA orchestrated 911 as justification to invade Iraq when they had the perfect excuse in the first place (1990 Kuwait invasion)??

All the USA had to do was stay there and you could have saved 4,000 innocent US lives and the twin towers.

With zero risk.

I'll wait.
Thats a decade apart.

Different people in power.

What was the direction of the US in 1990? We were coming out of the cold war. Looking to lower military action, defense spending ect. Their response to the Kuwait incident was actually the proper response, to not get dragged into all the fuking mess.

Then 10 years go by and people in power are longing for the old days of higher defense budgets, higher military involvement ect.

I mean really, look at the US now and 10 years ago, with different people in power, is there not different directions they want to take the US in? Is that really a question that with different people why 10 years later they are doing something.... different?
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Originally Posted By HungLikeJesus
absolute and concrete american public support to go to war against the middle east immediately. the shock factor 9/11 produced among the masses was unprecedented. it put into the public mind a clear and definitive enemy. also, as previously stated, it gave the bush administration full power to implement new policies and increase military funding.

anyway it's been fun guys, but i see some of you are getting a bit upset when presented with a few tidbits of info, resorting to the usual "conspiracy loony" argument when unable to form any sort of reasonable or coherent response. i'll show myself out.
I did respond and you didnt provide a coherent response at all to BIGGEST PLOT HOLE in all of this nonsense
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Originally Posted By elterrible987
Thats a decade apart.

Different people in power.
According to genius a few posts up, the 'great empire' plans centuries in advance.

Also - different people in power? Do you think if a cabal organized 911 that they were voted in with the new president??

lmfao!!
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Originally Posted By cjr169
I did respond and you didnt provide a coherent response at all to BIGGEST PLOT HOLE in all of this nonsense
your plot hole was that the elite faction who i'm saying is responsible for 9/11 would have either left a paper trail, or one of them would have admitted guilt by now, and because this hasnt happened yet it proves they had nothing to do with it. you also said the people who are fighting for truth, giving their testimony, first hand accounts and demanding answers are unreliable and doing so to align with the "911 conspiracy narrative" my response was
i think it's amusing you believe the elites are 100% transparent, and that they dont do chit that the masses have absolutely 0 knowledge about.

and yeah, it's the first responders, eye witnesses and firefighters who are part of their own conspiracy in an attempt to destroy the american governments credibility. wouldnt have anything to do with telling the story about one of the worst days of their lives, and trying to get the truth out. it's the government who are the reliable ones
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Holy chit, keep it rolling boys... keep it rolling
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My question is why does so much of what’s in the report seem so ambiguous?

Perfect example is the supposed cell phone calls. I’ve flown tons of times in an airplane and I have never once been able to make a call in the air.

That’s just one of the many things that I just don’t understand. Why is none of this ever truthfully addressed?

I’ve never went that deep into this chit but just hearing some of this chit makes me curious.
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