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post 1566884451 11-22-2018, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted By GravityLee
Ill never understand why people believe this one out of all the conspiracy theories. Millions of muslims hate our guts and always have hated predominantly Christian or Jewish countriesgoing back to the crusades. Why would it make more sense the gov orchestrated it than some of them finally made a significant attack on us.
Because the United States has a history of false flag operations
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Originally Posted By Mike86er
The point is that the USA and other such countries have always been able to find justifications for foreign excursions (and there's been loads of them). None of them carrying any risk. With this in mind, it makes no sense to do 9/11 on yourself.

You'd honestly have to be a nut case to arrange for the Twin Towers be taken down and a plane to fly into the Pentagon so that you can justify a war when you don't even need to. As in, the "elite" who people charge with doing it would have to be really, really stupid and reckless. far too reckless, in fact, to conduct the operation itself.
Iraq wasnt just a " foreign excursion", it was a complete overthrow and replacement of the government, taking more than a decade. We STILL have a presence there, almost 20 years later.

Quite a bit different than Operation Desert Storm, where you say we could have just "stayed" in Iraq, when the scope wasnt even close to the same thing.


And that is just Iraq, that is not ignoring all the surveillance laws and budget increases pushed through after 9/11, that is just one of the countrys knocked off Israel/Saudi Arabia's hit list. Before we even got to Libya and Syria.
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Originally Posted By biggriffc12golf
Hear me out:

Have any of you seen a building collapse due to sustained fire? They rarely collapse evenly and neatly. Given the plane hits the building, jet fuel and the fire load ( furniture/paper etc ) the beams in and around the impact zone would be considerably weaker than the beams on the opposite side, therefore the building would not collapse equally unilaterally and pretty like it did.
What are you talking about?

Check out dozens of videos of fires caused my tanker trucks on near bridges on youtube. Most of them didn't even hit the bridge!
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post 1566908101 11-22-2018, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp
People who think 911 was an inside job are either mentally ill or gullible.

A couple of reasons:

It was a false flag to justify invading Afghanistan and/or Iraq

Can someone explain this one to me? Why the fuk would anyone want to invade those countries? Just LOL @ anyone claiming 'oil' like some sheep. If those countries were so oil rich then why were/are they complete chitholes? If the west wanted a monopoly on oil, wouldn't it be better to create a false flag to invade Saudi Arabia instead? Also - people forget the first gulf war, the West had already legitimately invaded Iraq, so why leave and then decide to go back a decade later?

And now the west has largely left those countries, what exactly have they achieved at the end of all this? The Americans failed to setup an Iraqi army capable of fighting off insurgents, and instead it turned out to be a huge waste of time, lives and assets.

I'm sure if justification was to be garnered from the public to invade a chithole, 'they' could come up with a far less destructive way to do it.
Not even touching on whether it's an inside job or not, I can tell you know nothing about the situation and history in the middle east
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post 1566908181 11-22-2018, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted By Brozart
Not even touching on whether it's an inside job or not, I can tell you know nothing about the situation and history in the middle east
Such is the case with most of his arguments after all isn’t this the same dude that believes aliens traveled many light years to move around a bunch of rocks and build things like Stonehenge?

Lmao

Yeah cuz that’s believable
post 1566908421 11-22-2018, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel
It's not that many...

Probably under 1000 people assassinated in the entire history of the CIA. Maybe add the victims of 9/11 in there to be safe.
And JFK
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Originally Posted By latverian41
And JFK
For some reason I don’t feel like CIA was directly responsible for him although basically it’s all now pumped into a broader category known as the deep state. I think the major reason JFK was whacked was for fighting the federal reserve which would more put him at odds with certain individuals.
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Originally Posted By pantiespending
For some reason I don’t feel like CIA was directly responsible for him although basically it’s all now pumped into a broader category known as the deep state. I think the major reason JFK was whacked was for fighting the federal reserve which would more put him at odds with certain individuals.
Yes I fSl the Federal reserve Issue was one of the reasons

If you ever see one and five dollar bills with the red or blue stamp that was currency Kennedy had printed that did not have to be paid back with interest to the Federal reserve. It was interest free currency.

Two.other world leaders attempted this. Abraham Lincoln. And Adolf Hitler did it with Germany and is one if the main reasons he got Germany out of the worst depression the world had ever seen. He set a precedent and all the sudden the world came after him even though he made peace offer after peace offer to great Britain before and after France BM was taken.

They like to say the war was over Germany invading Poland. It Russia invaded Poland at the same time and Stalin and Hitler split it only Hitler was the only one they came after even though Stalin murdered many more ppl and then after the war they let stalib keep his half of Poland.

The truth is easy to see if one uses common sensr
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those of you who can see no reason for destroying wtc7 are the same ones claiming there would be mountains of incriminating documents.

consider this, wtc7 housed United States Secret Service, Department of Defense and CIA. if there was any sort of paper trail or computer data that existed, it was all destroyed when this happened:

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Originally Posted By latverian41
Yes I fSl the Federal reserve Issue was one of the reasons

If you ever see one and five dollar bills with the red or blue stamp that was currency Kennedy had printed that did not have to be paid back with interest to the Federal reserve. It was interest free currency.

Two.other world leaders attempted this. Abraham Lincoln. And Adolf Hitler did it with Germany and is one if the main reasons he got Germany out of the worst depression the world had ever seen. He set a precedent and all the sudden the world came after him even though he made peace offer after peace offer to great Britain before and after France BM was taken.

They like to say the war was over Germany invading Poland. It Russia invaded Poland at the same time and Stalin and Hitler split it only Hitler was the only one they came after even though Stalin murdered many more ppl and then after the war they let stalib keep his half of Poland.

The truth is easy to see if one uses common sensr
Exactly....


Exactly....

That’s supposedly what is being done right now or is in the process with this Q and trump movement.

We shall see

We shall see
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IMHO, historically speaking, CIA assassinations: JFK, RFK, Marilyn Monroe, MLK, Malcolm X, to name just a few. I've just listed the high profile, American, assassinations during the 1960s. I didn't mention any foreign assassinations.
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Didn't they kill general Patton?
post 1566911451 11-22-2018, 08:41 PM
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Good luck to everyone in this thread, especially OP

The CIA are great people who have everyone's best interest in mind

Have a good night everyone, especially the CIA
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Originally Posted By SuperHercules
Good luck to everyone in this thread, especially OP

The CIA are great people who have everyone's best interest in mind

Have a good night everyone, especially the CIA
Thanks bro, good luck to you too.

Every half intelligent American should know that the CIA serves and integral role to this country. Of course in almost every situation there is 50 shades of grey, it’s never black and white. As such, there needs to be extremely secretive areas of our government that operate and carry out missions out of the public’s eye. Lettuce be reality, the general population has an education level that is akin to a 7th grader. Not to mention hard decisions have to be made, if the sacrifice of a few means the protection of many then in the end it is justified.

It’s interesting to critical think though isn’t it? After all that’s all that really has occurred ITT. I know I can’t speak for everyone but I am in full support of the CIA. Not to mention, I would love to be part of them. So what others opinion on this matter are, I can’t say. In the same right, I wouldn’t be being a good American or patriot unless I questioned the actions of this republic. I am a nationalist through and through, I’m with it. I would put my life in danger for the cause, and that’s the truth.

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Originally Posted By SuperHercules
Good luck to everyone in this thread, especially OP

The CIA are great people who have everyone's best interest in mind

Have a good night everyone, especially the CIA
uhhh yea

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blows my mind thinking about spys interacting in todays world. bad ass, except for the ones that went to china and got murdered
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not sure about wincel's poppy tie-in, given that about 5% of it makes its way to the US. it's intended for the european market. is your contention that the US govt/cia is somehow brokering all of that near its source before it makes its way there?

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Originally Posted By Ratfish
not sure about wincel's poppy tie-in, given that about 5% of it makes its way to the US. it's intended for the european market. is your contention that the US govt/cia is somehow brokering all of that near its source before it makes its way there?

never attribute to malice what can easily be explained by incompetence.
I believe those numbers are extremely skewed. Of course you’re right that those are where the DEA places the percentage. You’re also right that much of the Afghan dope ends up In Europe. However, the first major problem is that it’s impossible to track accurate percentages on these matters.

Also, I feel like you have Mexico being a primary supplier but they mostly deal in
M-A-M and not D-A-M. Which would mean the entirety of the eastern coastal states supplied come from South America. Which I do agree is true to an extent, however, I don’t think they can bring in enough to satisfy demand.

Like I said you’re right it’s just I believe the actual numbers to be significantly different than the reported numbers. Lettuce be reality, the DEA even by their own numbers stated that they catch less than 20% of what comes into this country. That means that they’re numbers are going to be heavily skewed when it comes to statistical analysis. While of course the DEA, Feds and local boys do perform analysis on the dope to try to trace it back to origin. Most of these figures come from their stops not the analysis of the stuff they pull off the streets. The better it is in terms of purity the harder that becomes to determine where it came from. In a perfect word if it were 95% purity or above it would be next to impossible provided no signature adulterants had been used...

Etc, etc

N while I’m not the one who made the point and I’m not entirely backing it. It is peculiar that the United States military has been filmed guarding poppy fields on many occasions. Furthermore, it’s a relatively known fact that after the CIA got hit with news reports detailing the contra scandal. The reduced their distribution efforts into the states and focused on the just as lucrative foreign markets within developed countries.

So to wrap up, on top of everything I’ve said, just because the CIA isn’t pushing the dope here(they still are) does not mean they’re not pushing the dope.

Last let me just state when I say CIA, I mean factions within the CIA and not the organization as a whole.
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Originally Posted By Ratfish
not sure about wincel's poppy tie-in, given that about 5% of it makes its way to the US. it's intended for the european market. is your contention that the US govt/cia is somehow brokering all of that near its source before it makes its way there?

never attribute to malice what can easily be explained by incompetence.
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2016/04/27/...id-supply.html

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Originally Posted By Brozart
Not even touching on whether it's an inside job or not, I can tell you know nothing about the situation and history in the middle east
Not even touching on whether it's an inside job or not, I can tell you know nothing about the situation and history in the middle east
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