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Thread: The harshest redpill is how women treat you if you're ugly vs if you're handsome

post 1567608341 12-01-2018, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted By PisseninMisc⏩
What is this "pill" bullchet dude you a retard or something? Women find attractive guys attractive, doesn't take most people till senior year of college to recognize this simple truth. It's almost like saying the sky is blue, this chit is common sense my man.

You don't always post terrible chit, but come on now. What did you think before you started looking better, that women love ugly ass motherfukers? Get real dude, you know what the deal was since day one.
Idk man, of course it seems obvious in a lot of ways, but I guess a part of me back then was just thinking that women weren't super polite cause they weren't close to me, so they had to be cautious since dudes are just bigger than them or something. In other words I rationalized their general unpleasantness as simply being cautious. But I'd always be envious when they'd hug their attractive male friends and laugh at their jokes. I did have some female friends who were nice to me, but again, women who I'd meet for the first time wouldn't smile, wouldn't make eye contact, wouldn't laugh, etc etc etc and I wanted to keep up this belief that they're somehow less superficial than dudes.

Even my ex would regularly say that girls care much less about looks than dudes. I'll agree that they might care a "bit" less, with the number of absolute babes dating average dudes I see, but they do care very much.

And the thing that annoys me is just how...ignored I was back when I wasn't attractive. How not only was I invisible romantically, but how they couldn't even treat me with basic decency a lot of the time. I like making people smile, and I know what it's like to be a social outcast, so I still smile and joke around with girls that are obese and have acne and all that. And they appreciate that. But very few girls ever did that with me when I was ugly. I've also learned from my female friends that they have practically no empathy for dudes they find unattractive, they're quick to label them as "creepy" and just make fun of them to no end.

I think society kind of implants this idea that women are somehow "better" than men in some ways, that they're less superficial, more sweet, more empathetic, all that, and my experiences going from ugly to attractive and talking to female friends has just kind of killed that worldview completely.
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post 1567608411 12-01-2018, 08:14 PM
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i'm bald, hideous and flabby and women treat me great

must suck to have no personality whatsoever lmao

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post 1567608851 12-01-2018, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb⏩
Pics
Fine. I don't take a lot of pics but these are decent. Edited out ex. First one is before (obv) last three were taken within the past year. I'm no Chad but I think I've gotten better.
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post 1567609921 12-01-2018, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted By severagee⏩
Fine. I don't take a lot of pics but these are decent. Edited out ex. First one is before (obv) last three were taken within the past year. I'm no Chad but I think I've gotten better.
first pic:

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post 1567610501 12-01-2018, 08:43 PM
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It's an ok thread OP, happy for you srs.
post 1567610581 12-01-2018, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted By severagee⏩
Fine. I don't take a lot of pics but these are decent. Edited out ex. First one is before (obv) last three were taken within the past year. I'm no Chad but I think I've gotten better.
TLDR

our boy went from a 2/10 to a 4/10
post 1567611201 12-01-2018, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted By smithshreds⏩
TLDR

our boy went from a 2/10 to a 4/10
You jelly of my mad beard brah?
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post 1567611301 12-01-2018, 08:54 PM
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I'm pretty average but women here are friendly when I speak to them. Maybe it's a working class thing to be nice to one another?
post 1567611851 12-01-2018, 09:05 PM
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could be cause im black / 6'3 idk but i stopped workin out for like 2 years and women like me better than when i was liftin. true story. i have kind of that lean skinny type of body now.
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I actually wanted to make a thread about this.
It's a horrible way to think but honestly, i sometimes get depressed about how life can be so different simply because of how you were born.

e.g. Someone - tall, white and decent looking vs manlet/receding hair etc

It's really ****ed up. It's a bad way to think because you can't do anything about it - that's life etc. But i don't think people understand how much people are treated better/nicer depending on their appearance (serious)
post 1567612631 12-01-2018, 09:19 PM
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I feel you OP, I learned this just recently, like within the last year. I was naive as **** raised by single mother etc you know the usual. Its unfortunate that this is the truth but this is how life is now. It's definitely depressing to realize but if you also don't follow along you end up getting left behind and could miss out on a lot of life.
post 1567612931 12-01-2018, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted By Basiliskboy⏩
It goes like this in order of importance

Looks
Social status
Money
Game

If you don’t have looks you won’t even get the woman to care for the other 3. That’s just how it is. People like to say that chit so when the ugly cuck is chosen as a beta provider, he think he’s won. Looks matter as much to a woman as they do to men.
I can’t agree with this. If a guy has game and social status, he can pull women without looks. However you are right about looks being the most important thing. I have zero game because of my looks. I’ve never needed it. Its like no matter what I say, girls just eat it up. Sometimes I will look back on some of the chit I’ve said to a female and think “wow, why the F did you say that? And why the hell did she not call you on it?” LOL
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post 1567613091 12-01-2018, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted By severagee⏩
Fine. I don't take a lot of pics but these are decent. Edited out ex. First one is before (obv) last three were taken within the past year. I'm no Chad but I think I've gotten better.
Originally Posted By HomerJThompson⏩
First pic you look creepy as phuck, no wonder girls were scared of you. Third pic you can see the big difference you have made.
OP while you have made vast improvements that first pic made me lol. Definitely an unsettling facial expression.

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post 1567613291 12-01-2018, 09:28 PM
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It's not just women, EVERYONE treats you better when you look better.

I'm one of those people whose facial aesthetics fluctuate 4 - 5 points when I go up and down in bodyfat percentage and I can vouch for everything you've said, but just want to add that it applies to everyone not just females.
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post 1567613661 12-01-2018, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted By triception⏩
It's not just women, EVERYONE treats you better when you look better.

I'm one of those people whose facial aesthetics fluctuate 4 - 5 points when I go up and down in bodyfat percentage and I can vouch for everything you've said, but just want to add that it applies to everyone not just females.
This.

How to get over knowing this is true? Feelsbad
post 1567614091 12-01-2018, 09:40 PM
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Fair OP. I was ugly through to early 20's. Started hitting the gym, got better style, acne went away, and now girls wanna fcuk with me. Also I became more confident talking to girls, developed interesting hobbies and learned how to get anyone to like me. However now Im finding girls are becoming more interested in status and money which unfortunately cannot be improved upon overnight. Its like you feel like you have it sorted and then they want more from you. At least the attractive ones anyway.
post 1567614331 12-01-2018, 09:43 PM
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I know these feels OP.

Fate was turning me into a snaggle-toothed, thick-glasses-wearing, bald nosferatu look-alike. Felt bad man. And was completely invisible to women.
Hair transplants, invisalign and lasik changed my situation considerably. (plus tanning and leaning out a little more)

Here's my before-and-after pics




I'm not saying I became overly handsome or anything - but I am saying that I went from experiencing the "invisible" feel, to experiencing actual normal human attention.
When a woman says that looks don't matter, or they're not as big of a deal to her, then she's just trying to make herself look better. A lot of it has to do with their concern for what their friends will think if they date a guy below (or above) their level.
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Originally Posted By LurkoLantern⏩
I know these feels OP.

Fate was turning me into a snaggle-toothed, thick-glasses-wearing, bald nosferatu look-alike. Felt bad man. And was completely invisible to women.
Hair transplants, invisalign and lasik changed my situation considerably. (plus tanning and leaning out a little more)

Here's my before-and-after pics




I'm not saying I became overly handsome or anything - but I am saying that I went from experiencing the "invisible" feel, to experiencing actual normal human attention.
When a woman says that looks don't matter, or they're not as big of a deal to her, then she's just trying to make herself look better. A lot of it has to do with their concern for what their friends will think if they date a guy below (or above) their level.
Holy fuk. How old were you when you made the transformation? Must have been crazy to realize it after 30+ yrs.
post 1567615181 12-01-2018, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted By LurkoLantern⏩
I know these feels OP.

Fate was turning me into a snaggle-toothed, thick-glasses-wearing, bald nosferatu look-alike. Felt bad man. And was completely invisible to women.
Hair transplants, invisalign and lasik changed my situation considerably. (plus tanning and leaning out a little more)

Here's my before-and-after pics




I'm not saying I became overly handsome or anything - but I am saying that I went from experiencing the "invisible" feel, to experiencing actual normal human attention.
When a woman says that looks don't matter, or they're not as big of a deal to her, then she's just trying to make herself look better. A lot of it has to do with their concern for what their friends will think if they date a guy below (or above) their level.
Damn brah from IT repair guy to Chad lawyer. Mirin. Crazy how much of a difference the hair makes.

And yea that’s exactly it, just going from being invisible to normal human attention. Where they actually treat you as a person and don’t act like it’s a chore to talk to you. That’s the thing that really made me cynical. Just how before they’d act annoyed that I’d even have the gall to try and have a conversation with them.

Like some others have said, dudes also treat you much better when you start to look better. They just respect you more. It’s subtle but it’s a difference I’ve noticed, where I’m not longer the butt of jokes regarding looks and getting women and that sort of thing.
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Originally Posted By severagee⏩
Where they actually treat you as a person and don’t act like it’s a chore to talk to you.
I think this sums it up perfectly. When I looked like the guy on the left, I definitely sensed that people felt like it was an unwelcomed burden to talk or be approached by me. Now that I look like I do on the right, I don't feel that same sense from them. At the very least, just normal.
Originally Posted By samosajoe⏩
Holy fuk. How old were you when you made the transformation? Must have been crazy to realize it after 30+ yrs.
Me on the left at 27. Me on the right at 35. Most of the self-improvements started at 30.
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
i'm bald, hideous and flabby and women treat me great

must suck to have no personality whatsoever lmao

Loled at gif
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OP was a ******* before. So was I, but I still pulled then. Not as easily as now but that’s how it goes, you get the attention and action you attract. And if you ain’t attractive you ain’t getting much.
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Originally Posted By LurkoLantern⏩
I think this sums it up perfectly. When I looked like the guy on the left, I definitely sensed that people felt like it was an unwelcomed burden to talk or be approached by me. Now that I look like I do on the right, I don't feel that same sense from them. At the very least, just normal.



Me on the left at 27. Me on the right at 35. Most of the self-improvements started at 30.
How much was the hair transplant? I'm not going bald yet but might start saving just in case
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idk since I've only ever experienced one side of the spectrum. I assume we can all guess which one haha
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Originally Posted By LurkoLantern⏩
I know these feels OP.

Fate was turning me into a snaggle-toothed, thick-glasses-wearing, bald nosferatu look-alike. Felt bad man. And was completely invisible to women.
Hair transplants, invisalign and lasik changed my situation considerably. (plus tanning and leaning out a little more)

Here's my before-and-after pics




I'm not saying I became overly handsome or anything - but I am saying that I went from experiencing the "invisible" feel, to experiencing actual normal human attention.
When a woman says that looks don't matter, or they're not as big of a deal to her, then she's just trying to make herself look better. A lot of it has to do with their concern for what their friends will think if they date a guy below (or above) their level.
You legit went up 2-2.5/10 and you look younger. Hair is a major redpill.
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Guys, i dont think im the best looking guy. But women LEGIT stare the fuk out of me. No girl is out of my league

Im pretty sure its just because im controlled as fuk. And a little aggressive

And whenever i interact with women they "submit" so it just brings out these feminine feelings that makes them feel attractive

I would say its because of my body and that im built but i was standing with my 6'6 uncle today. And not a 6'6 lanklet but a 6'6 all american d1 lineman. yet eyes were on me
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I’m looking at your avi and you 6’0’’ 180 stats and trust me you still have no idea what it’s like to be genuinely attractive to girls


Basically the sounds like you went from ugly to average but lol at thinking you’ve genuinely flipped to attractive
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Literally the easiest one to figure out and get over.


Also are you a big fan of fat ugly women? No? Well women aren’t a fan of fat ugly men. Problem is you’ll **** an average girl who is feminine and nice. A hot chick doesn’t need to **** an average guy because she is drowning in dick offerings.
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Women care about looks more than men do.
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