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post 1567616171 12-01-2018, 10:11 PM
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I'm about to start crying srs
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the situation shouldn't have even been brought fourth into public until the investigation had concluded and the claims had been confirmed.
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post 1567616901 12-01-2018, 10:20 PM
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Bill nye should do live commentary on what he thinks on this.

Does he side with science bro or continue his sjw allegiance??
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Originally Posted By faxanadu⏩
This is the wine & cheese chick:




She's not bad looking at all. He probably did try and make a move. However, him being awkward and clumsy about it certainly doesn't warrant publicly calling him a sexual predator. Like GTFO with that bullchit. IMO... that's slander.
looks like a typical good looking hollywood industry sloot thats a PA trying to suck dik to get to the top, srs
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post 1567617371 12-01-2018, 10:28 PM
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Holy chit. I actually like and respect this dude again now. That first paragraph was 100% truth. Good for him.
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post 1567617441 12-01-2018, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted By MyGhettoFantasy⏩
It's clear that you have an axe to grind, m8. He has offered as much evidence as his accusers (none), and you choose to believe them because you believe he is narcissistic.
I don't necessarily believe his accusers.

I'm just pointing out the rather strange way he chooses to defend himself. People who have a very high opinion of themselves tend to speak when they should shut their mouth. Ask any cop who has done interrogations... the narcissists are the ones who think they can talk their way out of any situation. NDT would have been better served with a response vetted by attorneys, than what he posted online.
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed⏩
I don't necessarily believe his accusers.

I'm just pointing out the rather strange way he chooses to defend himself. People who have a very high opinion of themselves tend to speak when they should shut their mouth. Ask any cop who has done interrogations... the narcissists are the ones who think they can talk their way out of any situation. NDT would have been better served with a response vetted by attorneys, than what he posted online.
He should have a high opinion of himself...he’s fukin awesome and smarter than most people on the planet lol
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post 1567617911 12-01-2018, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed⏩
I don't necessarily believe his accusers.

I'm just pointing out the rather strange way he chooses to defend himself. People who have a very high opinion of themselves tend to speak when they should shut their mouth. Ask any cop who has done interrogations... the narcissists are the ones who think they can talk their way out of any situation. NDT would have been better served with a response vetted by attorneys, than what he posted online.
yeah and you sound like an armchair psychiatrist over analsysing text like you know chit
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post 1567618121 12-01-2018, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed⏩
I don't necessarily believe his accusers.

I'm just pointing out the rather strange way he chooses to defend himself. People who have a very high opinion of themselves tend to speak when they should shut their mouth. Ask any cop who has done interrogations... the narcissists are the ones who think they can talk their way out of any situation. NDT would have been better served with a response vetted by attorneys, than what he posted online.
Are you kidding man? That would be terrible for PR. Only people who are actually guilty and need lawyers to speak for them so they won't say or admit anything that could get them in trouble do that, prime example: Bill Cosby.

He started off by even saying that he's been trying to not bring media attention to accusations that don't even warrant his response since they are false, but he had no choice since it's literally everywhere now. He handled it well and didn't leave any room for guessing to the public. He told us exactly how he knows the accusers and exactly what happened in the certain situations he was accused of allegedly having "sexual misconduct". Seems like a completely honest and legit response to me, nothing narcissistic about that at all.
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post 1567618441 12-01-2018, 10:41 PM
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ridiculous

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post 1567618491 12-01-2018, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa⏩
He should have a high opinion of himself...he’s fukin awesome and smarter than most people on the planet lol
You're missing the point.

There is an old lawyer expression that "only a fool has himself for a client". No matter how good you are as a lawyer, you shouldn't defend yourself in court.

NDT should be smart enough to know that the ONLY response to these charges should be one vetted by an attorney before it is released. No attorney vetted what he posted. No lawyer worth his salt would allow his client to go into any of that detail. If this goes to court, this will be used against him. The fact that NDT responded in this fashion without getting a lawyer involved points to a character flaw in him. That character flaw implies there may be others. It's not a huge leap that somebody who thinks so highly of his own intelligence that he thinks he doesn't need an attorney, may also think so highly of his own desirability that he overstepped boundaries while trying to seduce women. Let's be real, we all know he was trying to get into the pant of that wine & cheese sloot. He's already guilty of lying about that in his statement.
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post 1567618681 12-01-2018, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted By top****ut212⏩
I knew he didn't do it boys, people dont think tyson be like he is, but he do. Faith restored in black science man

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post 1567618711 12-01-2018, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted By top****ut212⏩
Are you kidding man? That would be terrible for PR. Only people who are actually guilty and need lawyers to speak for them so they won't say or admit anything that could get them in trouble do that, prime example: Bill Cosby.

He started off by even saying that he's been trying to not bring media attention to accusations that don't even warrant his response since they are false, but he had no choice since it's literally everywhere now. He handled it well and didn't leave any room for guessing to the public. He told us exactly how he knows the accusers and exactly what happened in the certain situations he was accused of allegedly having "sexual misconduct". Seems like a completely honest and legit response to me, nothing narcissistic about that at all.
He's trying to answer potential legal charges in the court of public opinion. He didn't help himself. If you get accused of a crime, you hire a lawyer and you listen to the advice that lawyer gives you. They are the ones who know their way around a courtroom, not you. They are the ones who will give you your best chance of acquittal.

I'm no fan of lawyers, but I know they have their role in society and right now, NDT should be listening to his lawyers.
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post 1567619441 12-01-2018, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted By TheWeeknd4Ever⏩
These stupid fuking metoo liberal attention seeking whores have literally fuked up he concept of rape for all women who actually go through it.

It’s gotten to the point where I NEVER believe any woman who has claimed she’s been sexually assaulted. That’s what they’ve done. Hope they are happy
Sadly this. Some women are horrifically brutalized. Now hugging is considered a form of rape. The only people this benefits are actual rapists, since now everyone is mostly considered a rapist (who hasn't sexed up when drunk?) and women who want to weaponize it. The actual victims are diminished.
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post 1567619771 12-01-2018, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed⏩
He's trying to answer potential legal charges in the court of public opinion. He didn't help himself. If you get accused of a crime, you hire a lawyer and you listen to the advice that lawyer gives you. They are the ones who know their way around a courtroom, not you. They are the ones who will give you your best chance of acquittal.

I'm no fan of lawyers, but I know they have their role in society and right now, NDT should be listening to his lawyers.
I think you're missing the point, I don't think he's worried about potential legal charges, i'm almost positive his public statement will be exactly what he would say in the courts as well. The truth is the truth, only someone who is truly guilty will be afraid to give a public statement, due to the fear of being caught in a lie and obviously potentially used against him in a court of law if any new evidence would arise. I really think he's being as honest and truthful as possible here, at most hes probably guilty of having a small crush for that chick he took out for wine. And even that is debatable. Like someone else said, he's provided an exact statement of his version of events, until we get theirs or any other sort of evidence, it's all looking to be bs. But atleast he got his side out, so now it's all on them really. I think releasing a personal statement was the right thing to do.
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post 1567620661 12-01-2018, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed⏩
You're missing the point.
I’m missing nothing and stopped reading here. Thanks for you input.
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post 1567621131 12-01-2018, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted By 128⏩
Will listen to some Eric Johnson while reading the article.
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Will listen to some Eric Johnson while reading the article.
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed⏩
I don't necessarily believe his accusers.

I'm just pointing out the rather strange way he chooses to defend himself. People who have a very high opinion of themselves tend to speak when they should shut their mouth. Ask any cop who has done interrogations... the narcissists are the ones who think they can talk their way out of any situation. NDT would have been better served with a response vetted by attorneys, than what he posted online.
No.

In these situations, silence is basically the admission of guilt
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Could this be the issue that finally wakes liberals up?
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Originally Posted By Azrairc⏩
Could this be the issue that finally wakes liberals up?
There is still plenty of fuel to consume.
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Originally Posted By straightflexing⏩
agree, dude gave way too much detail...this dude has always rubbed me the wrong way, hes not even a real astronomer or physicist....hes a wannabe philosopher...
Lol how is he not a real astronomer or physicist? The man has a phd in astrophysics, has his name attached to papers which led to a Nobel prize (he didn't win but was involved) and is the director of the Hayden planetarium.

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Women in 2018, fuking LMFAO

This #metoo movement got women all amped up in this manhunt mentality
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Originally Posted By Amp30⏩
Women in 2018, fuking LMFAO

This #metoo movement got women all amped up in this manhunt mentality
strong post to username ratio, but i fully agree
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Yeah baby.

That's it.
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed⏩
I don't necessarily believe his accusers.

I'm just pointing out the rather strange way he chooses to defend himself. People who have a very high opinion of themselves tend to speak when they should shut their mouth. Ask any cop who has done interrogations... the narcissists are the ones who think they can talk their way out of any situation. NDT would have been better served with a response vetted by attorneys, than what he posted online.
I didn't take his response as being driven by narcissism. I took it as a detailed, information based explanation that is typical of someone that was trained in the scientific method and is accustomed to positing facts and compiling them. He spoke like a scientist.

Not unlike the young engineer that was fired from Google for apparently being anti woman in the workplace.

You're MAGA crew. Do you think Trump's narcissism makes him guilty of the sexual assault charges levied against him? Or that he is more likely to sexually assault women? I mean, did his lawyers tell him to use the specific phrase of "horse face?".


The onus is not on NDT to prove his innocence. Him relating his experience of the accusations does not constitute a legal defense and the court of public opinion does not constitute a court of law. Further, it could just as well indicate that he acknowledges his status as a role model and feels compelled to explain himself to those he might influence. If that is the case, how is that narcissistic?

He has every right to tell his side of things and those that think objectively appreciate the information.
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Its kinda like when your gf accuses you of something, and you know you didnt do it, but you submit a defense anyway.. then you find yourself saying to yourself, why am I even doing this **** right now?

He looks a bit weasely even offering up a defense, innocent or not. Theres no level of charm that can outdo **** talk. Just move on.
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The first 2 are disgusting on the part of the accusers. The 3rd is word against word.

1st case -
Girl has tattoo of the galaxy, Neil looks to see if she has Pluto included on it. He touched her arm.

I imagine he was just being friendly, but even if he was making a move, he touched her arm. He didn't rape her. He touched her arm.

2nd case -
Girl accepts invitation from a man back to his place for wine and cheese. She accepts freely, on the way out he gives her a handshake where he extends his thumb to her wrist pulse.

I don't know if Neil was making a move on her, but if he was, what's wrong with that? Is it wrong for a man to seek out an intimate relationship with a woman? Whatever the case. He touched her wrist, during a handshake. He touched her wrist for fuk sake.

3rd case -
Girl accuses him of drugging her, he says he didn't she says he did.

The poster above me drugged me and raped me last night. That's as much weight an accusation has, it's word against word.


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Even if the accused is found innocent, their name is forever tainted. Touching someones arm isn't rape, whether he was making a move on a girl, or just being a friendly nerd... it's not a big deal, especially after he invites you TO HIS PLACE FOR WINE... holy fuk.

By 2 out of 3 of these cases, we've all sexually assaulted someone, those 2 are an absolute joke.

The 3rd, where he got accused of drugging then raping, that's obviously very serious, but it's word against word
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