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i haven’t seen people ohp more than 185 irl so id be impressed at 185+

don’t even know my one rep max for ohp, all I know is I did 135x9 strict last week
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strange you see all these big OHP numbers on misc but I never see anyone doing OHP in the gym lmao
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lmao where has cobhc gone? Did the guy really abandon us over his fraud status?

edit: also Arn is in this thread so I won't mention any OHP numbers
post 1568051451 12-07-2018, 10:53 AM
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135 lbs overhead press for 3 is impressive to 99% of the population, srs
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post 1568051651 12-07-2018, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted By Harganoff⏩
what's your favorite shoulder exercise?
I'm going to have to say seated DB press but I wouldn't back down from a challenge if someone said lateral raises
Originally Posted By tyn89⏩
Serious interested in why you say that, please explain. OHP seems to be great for my shoulder gains so far since I have started doing them.
I'm speaking purely in the context of hypertrophy here. I'm still not a fan of OHP for overall strength development but less so and for different reasons

A vertical pressing motion is just not a great way to stimulate the shoulder. Its automatically going to heavily favor the anterior head of the delt which is already overdeveloped in most people from their other pressing (any kind of chest pressing).

On top of that, OHP is an overly compound movement which requires a lot of supporting muscles in order to focus on a very small muscle group. It makes it very difficult to focus on the targeted muscle.

If I was designing a shoulder program for most people, it would start by burning your shoulders into the ground with isolation exercises through the rear and medial heads. After that, I would do some DB pressing and possible super set the last few sets with more isolation.

I'll make you guys a deal. We'll run an experiment. I'll write a program for delts. Two people log it for 6 weeks on here and we'll see if we can notice a difference through pics and general participant feedback.

All I ask is the the volunteers be experienced trainers and respected miscers.
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post 1568051781 12-07-2018, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted By JontheAtheist⏩
Seated OHP is where it's at, bro. You take your legs and core out of it when you sit.
that's the whole point of a strict press genius you are not supposed to use your legs in the first place.
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
I'm going to have to say seated DB press but I wouldn't back down from a challenge if someone said lateral raises



I'm speaking purely in the context of hypertrophy here. I'm still not a fan of OHP for overall strength development but less so and for different reasons

A vertical pressing motion is just not a great way to stimulate the shoulder. Its automatically going to heavily favor the anterior head of the delt which is already overdeveloped in most people from their other pressing (any kind of chest pressing).

On top of that, OHP is an overly compound movement which requires a lot of supporting muscles in order to focus on a very small muscle group. It makes it very difficult to focus on the targeted muscle.

If I was designing a shoulder program for most people, it would start by burning your shoulders into the ground with isolation exercises through the rear and medial heads. After that, I would do some DB pressing and possible super set the last few sets with more isolation.

I'll make you guys a deal. We'll run an experiment. I'll write a program for delts. Two people log it for 6 weeks on here and we'll see if we can notice a difference through pics and general participant feedback.

All I ask is the the volunteers be experienced trainers and respected miscers.
I'd say sure I'll partake, but I sort of already do much of what you outlined.
post 1568052261 12-07-2018, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
If I was designing a shoulder program for most people, it would start by burning your shoulders into the ground with isolation exercises through the rear and medial heads. After that, I would do some DB pressing and possible super set the last few sets with more isolation.

I'll make you guys a deal. We'll run an experiment. I'll write a program for delts. Two people log it for 6 weeks on here and we'll see if we can notice a difference through pics and general participant feedback.

All I ask is the the volunteers be experienced trainers and respected miscers.
I agree with everything you've said, but you expect the natties around here to get noticeable results in 6 weeks? The same individuals that have worked out for years, yet look like dyel? That's not long enough imo.
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
I'm going to have to say seated DB press but I wouldn't back down from a challenge if someone said lateral raises



I'm speaking purely in the context of hypertrophy here. I'm still not a fan of OHP for overall strength development but less so and for different reasons

A vertical pressing motion is just not a great way to stimulate the shoulder. Its automatically going to heavily favor the anterior head of the delt which is already overdeveloped in most people from their other pressing (any kind of chest pressing).

On top of that, OHP is an overly compound movement which requires a lot of supporting muscles in order to focus on a very small muscle group. It makes it very difficult to focus on the targeted muscle.

If I was designing a shoulder program for most people, it would start by burning your shoulders into the ground with isolation exercises through the rear and medial heads. After that, I would do some DB pressing and possible super set the last few sets with more isolation.

I'll make you guys a deal. We'll run an experiment. I'll write a program for delts. Two people log it for 6 weeks on here and we'll see if we can notice a difference through pics and general participant feedback.

All I ask is the the volunteers be experienced trainers and respected miscers.
not experienced and not a popular “respected” miscer but id be down to do this srs

would this be a routine for a separate shoulder day or would it fit in a P/P+L?
post 1568052851 12-07-2018, 11:09 AM
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I haven't maxed in a couple months, usually do OHP at the end of my chest workout.

How do you guys usually program it? Will go for a new max next week and see. Currently 172lbs and cutting. Strict form was 155x2 @176
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post 1568053331 12-07-2018, 11:15 AM
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post 1568053581 12-07-2018, 11:17 AM
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2/3/4/5 plates for ohp/b/sq/d
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Deadlift: 575x1
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post 1568053671 12-07-2018, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted By Fapadrol⏩
I agree with everything you've said, but you expect the natties around here to get noticeable results in 6 weeks? The same individuals that have worked out for years, yet look like dyel? That's not long enough imo.
I think its enough time but it would depend on a lot of factors. The biggest factor would be how big of a departure this is from their typical training
Originally Posted By MichaelDuong⏩
not experienced and not a popular “respected” miscer but id be down to do this srs

would this be a routine for a separate shoulder day or would it fit in a P/P+L?
You'd be perfect actually.

Ideally, this would be done on a shoulder day or shoulders and some small ancillary thing like biceps
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post 1568054041 12-07-2018, 11:22 AM
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if we're gong by actual reality rather than misc standards....the majority struggle to even hit 135lbs strict from touching upper chest

most your gym bros dont even do the lift....they're just sat down on a bench doing their 90 degree-fukupyourshoulders-half rom shoulder movements
post 1568054181 12-07-2018, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
I think its enough time but it would depend on a lot of factors. The biggest factor would be how big of a departure this is from their typical training



You'd be perfect actually.

Ideally, this would be done on a shoulder day or shoulders and some small ancillary thing like biceps
In.

i can type my exact routine with exercises and sets if need be and we can change things up to accommodate for this, i am curious srs
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Originally Posted By truthhurts⏩
if we're gong by actual reality rather than misc standards....the majority struggle to even hit 135lbs strict from touching upper chest

most your gym bros dont even do the lift....they're just sat down on a bench doing their 90 degree-fukupyourshoulders-half rom shoulder movements
Yeah I rarely see people OHP
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post 1568054701 12-07-2018, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted By MichaelDuong⏩
In.

i can type my exact routine with exercises and sets if need be and we can change things up to accommodate for this, i am curious srs
PM me brohammer
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Yo arn I might give your shoulder routine a try

I'm cutting, though, so who knows what results will be like
PRs:
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Deadlift: 735 (straps)
Strict OHP: 330
Log Clean & Press: 360
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
PM me brohammer
pm’d


hmm should probably actually do something in class rather than misc all day

will check response when im back home brah
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Tfw military press 225 x5 strict form full rom

I consider bodyweight for a set of 5 to be strong
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OHP is easily one of my favorite exercises. I feel so good after repping out multiple sets. Some people swear by it and others don't. To me I feel like it has helped me tremendously with getting past those bench plateaus.

As everyone said 1x your bodyweight strict is a really-really good lift .
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Originally Posted By Jan1ss⏩
185 will get you looks and admiring
225 rl is demi god status have seen mby like 3-4 guys do that and two of them were 400+lbs bench pressers and one was latvian strongman who placed 11 in recent year WSM(he didnt ohp 225 though ,it was in range of 340 or so pounds)
225 isn't that big of deal (srs)

I don't even OHP on a regular basis anymore and I can still do 225 x 2 pretty easily
480s / 370b / 495d / 235 x 2 SOHP

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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
PM me brohammer
I've never been able to do crap with my shoulders. Not sure I have time to log anything but would be interested in whatever you are proposing for the others!
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Originally Posted By explosiveMidget⏩
Honestly blows my mind how many fukinliarsthe misc has, post videos of you pressing 225lbs or over *******s I'd love to see it.
Originally Posted By MyBaddBrah⏩
135 lbs overhead press for 3 is impressive to 99% of the population, srs
These. Real life standards, if you can strict OHP 135 for a few reps then you're strong as fuk to 99% of people.

Amongst people who actually lift, then 185 is the mark that's impressive assuming you're under 200lbs.

For misc standards, if you don't strict OHP 225lbs then you dont even lift.

Nowadays, there are probably 5-8 miscersMaxthat can strict OHP 225 for a single. Strict meaning you unrack the weight, walk it out, initiate the press with the bar on your clavicle, and lock it out above your head with zero leg drive If you can do that, you're a strong mothafuka
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
225 isn't that big of deal (srs)

I don't even OHP on a regular basis anymore and I can still do 225 x 2 pretty easily
I don't OHP either (it's never been a focus that stays in a routine) and I don't remember a time I couldn't hit 225 easily.
Originally Posted By flexnation⏩
Nowadays, there are probably 5-8 miscersMaxthat can strict OHP 225 for a single. Strict meaning you unrack the weight, walk it out, initiate the press with the bar on your clavicle, and lock it out above your head with zero leg drive If you can do that, you're a strong mothafuka
Make a list. Only miscers with some proof of a 225 OHP can make the list, no cobhc's. Bet it's 20+
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Originally Posted By allianc3⏩
Make a list. Only miscers with some proof of a 225 OHP can make the list, no cobhc's. Bet it's 20+


First OHP vid I found on my phone.
480s / 370b / 495d / 235 x 2 SOHP

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https://youtu.be/FFtY9uElEqY

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Strict OHP: 330
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Originally Posted By Lpenny⏩
https://youtu.be/FFtY9uElEqY

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i'd say if you can rep out 135 that's pretty strong.

but BW ohp is impressive IMO, aiming for BW for reps
S/B/D/OHP: 405/265/495/180

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