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post 1568373971 12-11-2018, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
what a fukken beast. was that natty?
100% natty.
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post 1568375231 12-11-2018, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted By ko300zx⏩
Quote where I said 1200 calories is a decent diet.
Because you're some kind of dolt, I'll walk you through this like I would a child:

1. OP details eating 1,200 calories/day super-cut (something like that)
2. I make an alternative suggestion, rather than eating like that, instead he could try IF, fasting then feasting.
3. At this point I must speculate, but I can only assume as you were reading my post you had your thumbs right up your arsehole. Just shoved up there super tight, the way you like it.
4. One assumes you then remove your thumb, or thumbs, from your arsehole, because you're a stupid sick **** you then smell one of both of them and, realizing what you are doing, then dart around looking to see if anyone saw your shameful act.
5. Having done your ass-thumb smelling ritual, and we safely assume you do this before every awful post you make, you then replied to me with a gif followed by whatever stupid chit you then went on about.

... so, to restate, my suggestion was a diet technique and only a real stupid ass-smelling goofball would think it is reasonable to compare the diet one has when trying to lose massive weight to a normal "decent" diet (like you did)

Otherwise, I agree, OP and anyone else trying to gain or lose weight or just be healthy in general should focus on quality nutrient-dense foods and not the more garbage-looking foods we've seen pictures of throughout this thread.

Oh and one more think, Mr. No-Avi, what makes you possibly think anyone cares about what any No-Avi like yourself thinks? You might as well be red in these kinds of threads, brother. Stick to making gifs and leave the real discussions to the adults who actually train. Your butthurt very aggressive response tells us all we need to know about the condition of your physique there, buddy boy.

Not good.
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post 1568375891 12-11-2018, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
Because you're some kind of dolt, I'll walk you through this like I would a child:

1. OP details eating 1,200 calories/day super-cut (something like that)
2. I make an alternative suggestion, rather than eating like that, instead he could try IF, fasting then feasting.
3. At this point I must speculate, but I can only assume as you were reading my post you had your thumbs right up your arsehole. Just shoved up there super tight, the way you like it.
4. One assumes you then remove your thumb, or thumbs, from your arsehole, because you're a stupid sick **** you then smell one of both of them and, realizing what you are doing, then dart around looking to see if anyone saw your shameful act.
5. Having done your ass-thumb smelling ritual, and we safely assume you do this before every awful post you make, you then replied to me with a gif followed by whatever stupid chit you then went on about.

... so, to restate, my suggestion was a diet technique and only a real stupid ass-smelling goofball would think it is reasonable to compare the diet one has when trying to lose massive weight to a normal "decent" diet (like you did)

Otherwise, I agree, OP and anyone else trying to gain or lose weight or just be healthy in general should focus on quality nutrient-dense foods and not the more garbage-looking foods we've seen pictures of throughout this thread.

Oh and one more think, Mr. No-Avi, what makes you possibly think anyone cares about what any No-Avi like yourself thinks? You might as well be red in these kinds of threads, brother. Stick to making gifs and leave the real discussions to the adults who actually train. Your butthurt very aggressive response tells us all we need to know about the condition of your physique there, buddy boy.

Not good.


1) Your suggestion was sht.
2) Your posts have all been sht.
3) Keep thinking anything you have been rambling about is relevant.
4) Stay rustled.
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post 1568375971 12-11-2018, 12:15 PM
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No I'm starting around 2k to 2100 but I'm below that for the week. I'll probably end up down 3 lbs in the first week.
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post 1568376651 12-11-2018, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
No I'm starting around 2k to 2100 but I'm below that for the week. I'll probably end up down 3 lbs in the first week.
I'm actually reading some of this thread now, that video of you and your kid from a year back was (music aside) pretty legit. 225 incline for reps, even with iffy form, was pretty solid.

Have you been keeping it up? Are you that strong right now?

You're taking a bit of a beating throughout this thread, but IMO it's pretty cool that someone in their 40s still hits the gym. We're all going to get old someday. I think if you cleaned up your diet and stopped eating processed junk you'd be killing it.

I do want to bring up something from back on page 1, but at your age, going low calorie and low fat... keep an eye on your junk. If it stops being responsive, time to rethink your gameplan. Fats are the building blocks for hormones, ones we make less and less of as we age, don't double-down on that one.
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post 1568377521 12-11-2018, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
So, while we don't know whether you've lifted a weight in your life, it's hard to know how informed you are, but I'll ask you anyway: What is easier, a very low calorie diet done every-single-day OR a diet that has intermittent periods of fasting? Please try not to answer with a gif, if you are capable.
Not addressed to me, but I will presume that you know "it depends".

For one person grinding away day after day in restriction could lead to quitting.

For another person the fasting days might suck, but it could be that the feast days actually trigger them to just keep on eating.

Less likely if the feast days are good quality food vs. binge triggering crap.

Every other day, or a restricted eating window works really well for some people. Just anecdotal, but it seems like men do better with EOD or very restricted eating window, while women do better with a longer eating window.

For me, if I'm on good behavior:

- no breakfast/just coffee until at least 11 am
- first meal protein/non-starchy veg/some fat
- second meal whatever as long as there is some protein...maybe fruit or yogurt in the time frame
- evenings...time for starchy vegetables/complex carbs

Or, IOW, at least 2-3 servings of good protein, 2-3 servings non-starchy veg, then other stuff- a little of this, a little of that.
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post 1568378051 12-11-2018, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
100% natty.
mirin hard srs
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post 1568380131 12-11-2018, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
I'm actually reading some of this thread now, that video of you and your kid from a year back was (music aside) pretty legit. 225 incline for reps, even with iffy form, was pretty solid.

Have you been keeping it up? Are you that strong right now?

You're taking a bit of a beating throughout this thread, but IMO it's pretty cool that someone in their 40s still hits the gym. We're all going to get old someday. I think if you cleaned up your diet and stopped eating processed junk you'd be killing it.

I do want to bring up something from back on page 1, but at your age, going low calorie and low fat... keep an eye on your junk. If it stops being responsive, time to rethink your gameplan. Fats are the building blocks for hormones, ones we make less and less of as we age, don't double-down on that one.
Not sure where I'm at right now. As I said I've had some injuries due to work this summer so I've just been doing what I can.

Today will be

incline DB 3x8 85s

Pec deck 3x8

Seated dips 3x10

Side laterals 3x8

DB skullcrushers 3x8
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post 1568380591 12-11-2018, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
mirin hard srs
Thanks brother.

I had a teammate who came in as a freshman benching 500. Now he was other worldly.
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post 1568397631 12-11-2018, 04:08 PM
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I didn't make it all the way thru today.

Stopped after dips cause I was feeling nauseous.
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post 1568401511 12-11-2018, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
Ok I'll agree with a lot of what you say but I'm not untrained.

I played college football I have PRs when young of 400 bench 295 behind neck push press and a 660lb mid thigh pull while weighing 220 at 15% and running a 4.6 40.


I just have never had abs. Even when I cut all the way down to 171 post football in my early 20s. Never saw one ab.
Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
I didn't make it all the way thru today.

Stopped after dips cause I was feeling nauseous.
Your untrained in the sense that you don't have enough muscle mass to be considered trained. IMO you need a body recomp. Not just lose fat. Even if you cut down to 125lbs I doubt if you'll have visible abs. Primarily because they haven't been built/aren't there.


Your strong like someone that lifts and have a big frame but you don't look like you've ever been in a gym. Not an insult, just an observation. If you were more consistent with nutrition and only lifted 2 or 3 days per week consistently/with intensity you'd probably have better results then half azzing it in the gym often, but with terrible nutrition.


Literally every IFBB pro/everyone in the industry that has had success talks about the importance of 3 meals. Breakfast, pre workout meal and post workout meal. Whatever your eating for your meals don't have the nutrients you need to build muscle. IMO its better to build muscle so you don't have to eat like a bird with all your effort on losing fat.
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Originally Posted By guest89⏩
Your untrained in the sense that you don't have enough muscle mass to be considered trained. IMO you need a body recomp. Not just lose fat. Even if you cut down to 125lbs I doubt if you'll have visible abs. Primarily because they haven't been built/aren't there.


Your strong like someone that lifts and have a big frame but you don't look like you've ever been in a gym. Not an insult, just an observation. If you were more consistent with nutrition and only lifted 2 or 3 days per week consistently/with intensity you'd probably have better results then half azzing it in the gym often, but with terrible nutrition.


Literally every IFBB pro/everyone in the industry that has had success talks about the importance of 3 meals. Breakfast, pre workout meal and post workout meal. Whatever your eating for your meals don't have the nutrients you need to build muscle. IMO its better to build muscle so you don't have to eat like a bird with all your effort on losing fat.
I have probably 165lbs of lean mass right now
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Intermittent Fasting is definitely the easiest dieting protocol to follow.

5pm and only had 600 calories today lol. Have about 1600 calories left to eat if I want to but can probably feel completely fine with a couple of protein shakes tonight (Ghost Protein tastes good as fuk, hnghhh Fruity Cereal Milk, Blueberry Pastry, Peanut Butter Cereal Milk) and end at 1200-1500. Seems that's what I do 4 days a week and the others I'm closer to 2300. Seems to be working good, down 7 or 8 pounds this month from 202 @ 6'0 to 194.

Cutting is pretty simple especially if you can ignore the liar in your head saying you're starving and HAVE to eat. BRB drink a diet cherry Pepsi or some flavored sparkling water and the hunger disappears.
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post 1568423451 12-11-2018, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
Ok I'll agree with a lot of what you say but I'm not untrained.

I played college football I have PRs when young of 400 bench 295 behind neck push press and a 660lb mid thigh pull while weighing 220 at 15% and running a 4.6 40.


I just have never had abs. Even when I cut all the way down to 171 post football in my early 20s. Never saw one ab.
You didnt see abs because you weren't 15%. You're like 5'6"? At 220lbs? I'm 6'0" and need to drop down to 170lb to get shredded.
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Originally Posted By GriecoR⏩
You didnt see abs because you weren't 15%. You're like 5'6"? At 220lbs? I'm 6'0" and need to drop down to 170lb to get shredded.
I'm 5'11.

Yes I was 15% do you not think universities have accurate ways to measure their student athletes?


I probably would have to hit 11% to see abs
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Better workout today still didn't feel well enough for cardio

Lat pull down 3x8

Mid row 3x8

Rear delta 12,10,10

Dumbell concentration curls 7,6,5

Machine curls cables 2x8
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
Start pics.

mega, mega fat
Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
213.5 this morning!!!!!

Booyah looking tight today.
lol, just lol
Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
I have probably 165lbs of lean mass right now
you are far beyond 23% BF. seriously man, you are beyond delusional
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Misc is always good for keeping one honest, and never pulling punches.

I say good luck, OP. I'm in to see where this goes.
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Originally Posted By howimliving⏩
lol, just lol



you are far beyond 23% BF. seriously man, you are beyond delusional
No I'm not.

I hold all my fat in my torso. I have been tested so many times.

College football

Military

Post military at the Human Performance Lab at Meredith University.

I know what I look like at each stage.
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Originally Posted By hiimnotcool⏩
Intermittent Fasting is definitely the easiest dieting protocol to follow.

5pm and only had 600 calories today lol. Have about 1600 calories left to eat if I want to but can probably feel completely fine with a couple of protein shakes tonight (Ghost Protein tastes good as fuk, hnghhh Fruity Cereal Milk, Blueberry Pastry, Peanut Butter Cereal Milk) and end at 1200-1500. Seems that's what I do 4 days a week and the others I'm closer to 2300. Seems to be working good, down 7 or 8 pounds this month from 202 @ 6'0 to 194.

Cutting is pretty simple especially if you can ignore the liar in your head saying you're starving and HAVE to eat. BRB drink a diet cherry Pepsi or some flavored sparkling water and the hunger disappears.
I second this - before I started bulking in Sept, I used intermittent fasting to cut my bodyfat to approx. 10% - worked better than keto (which I tried before IF)
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Originally Posted By ArmaanX92⏩
I second this - before I started bulking in Sept, I used intermittent fasting to cut my bodyfat to approx. 10% - worked better than keto (which I tried before IF)
Eventually it will be IF and Keto. But honestly everyone IFs anyway.

If you eat dinner at 7 and don't eat breakfast till 830 or 9 the next morning that's a 14hr fast.
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I did get some cardio in tonight after all. I went with a buddy on his trash route tonight lots of walking stairs and hualing.
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Light legs today

3x8 leg extensions
3x10 leg curls

2x10 ab coaster

2x30 seconds planks.

Going to do some light sprinting.
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Very light legs, OP.

Would recommend adding at least another motion into the mix (if you dont already)

Also, list weights that you used during the exercise to help keep track of your progress
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash⏩
Very light legs, OP.

Would recommend adding at least another motion into the mix (if you dont already)

Also, list weights that you used during the exercise to help keep track of your progress
We have these new hoist rock-it machines.

I'm easing back into legs. I've had trouble with my knees getting jacked up if I do too much too soon. I depend on my body to work so I have to be careful.

Eventually it will be squat press or squat machine 3x8 with the leg extensions and curls.

Legs really don't mean much to women so they are low priority for me other than the fact that they raise total bmr.
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
We have these new hoist rock-it machines.

I'm easing back into legs. I've had trouble with my knees getting jacked up if I do too much too soon. I depend on my body to work so I have to be careful.

Eventually it will be squat press or squat machine 3x8 with the leg extensions and curls.

Legs really don't mean much to women so they are low priority for me other than the fact that they raise total bmr.
Legs are definitely worth working, and ladies love big legs like they like big everything else. Gotta be the full package OP.

Leg Press/Squat press or some variation of that would be good to add. Take it at the speed your body allows you to.

The rock it machines dont have numbers on them tho?
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gj opie

you're not competing with anyone of these *******s

you're competing with yourself from the day before

one fukken day at a time
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
2x10 ab coaster

2x30 seconds planks.
That's a piss poor ab workout there, man. Come on, I do more with my 8-year old girl in the mornings. 30 seconds of planks? What?
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash⏩
Legs are definitely worth working, and ladies love big legs like they like big everything else. Gotta be the full package OP.

Leg Press/Squat press or some variation of that would be good to add. Take it at the speed your body allows you to.

The rock it machines dont have numbers on them tho?
They do but as you know no two machines are alike we have 2 different leg extensions by different companies and 4 different leg curls by 4 different makers


Heck I know it seems strange but the hammer strength chest press at my main location is lighter than the same machine slightly different model across town so I will post numbers but they might not jive.

Today leg extensions 115 leg curls 90.
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
That's a piss poor ab workout there, man. Come on, I do more with my 8-year old girl in the mornings. 30 seconds of planks? What?
The only core work I did in season was carrying furniture for long distance.

Again I don't want to jack myself up.

I'll ramp up the legs and abs.

My normal abs are cable crunch 3x12 ab coaster 3x12
Leg raise chair 3x15 3 sets planks 3 sets side planks.
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