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Thread: Incel’s and no friends: why aren’t you in a dance class?

post 1569053841 12-19-2018, 01:27 PM
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I feel like there’s more fun classes I can take to meet people
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Originally Posted By Rebel012⏩
1). The flaw in this reasoning is that you assume that interests, beliefs, preferences, and skills are primordial and immutable. This is false. You talk a lot about genetics, but the flip side of genetics is environment. People's preferences, interests, beliefs, and even IQ, can be altered or influenced by the environment and through effort. My preferences and interests have changed over the last ten years..
You cannot however "force yourself" to enjoy something. Either you enjoy it, or you don't.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
You cannot however "force yourself" to enjoy something. Either you enjoy it, or you don't.
100% correct, but you have to try it first.
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
100% correct, but you have to try it first.
Oh good. I hate dancing.
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Most likely because incels and no friend people are already awkward and autistic, imagine how that type of person dances.....

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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
Oh good. I hate dancing.
Fair enough. Wincel's turn. Salsa time.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
What you are really asking is that the incel change himself.Incels are unhappy primarily because they are not loved for who they really are.Most incels would rather be with sloots who love thigs that they enjoy.
More likely they are unhappy because they haven't learned to love themselves. If they had then they wouldn't be obsessed with relationships to the point of creating internet rants about how life is unfair to them.

Not saying it isn't normal to want a partner, just that it isn't healthy to let it cripple you.
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Originally Posted By Fit1NYC⏩
I’m kinda fat bro no shame in my game
Serious question
It’s like minimal effort to improve your life experience
People keep complaining that they can’t meet women etc but pretty sure they aren’t dancing

I killed it at a party yesterday
Funny thing was I was getting social anxiety because everyone knew each other and was talking to each other and I was all alone
Had some drinks and a woman asked me to dance with her and her friend and get the dance party started and we danced a little then like 15 minutes later everyone joined us and the party got lit af
Damn that's awesome. Alpha as fk. Might take up dancing myself.
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
More likely they are unhappy because they haven't learned to love themselves. If they had then they wouldn't be obsessed with relationships to the point of creating internet rants about how life is unfair to them.

Not saying it isn't normal to want a partner, just that it isn't healthy to let it cripple you.
What would you do if you lost your partner? What would you do if no matter how hard you tried, you couldn't find one? Remember how horny you were when you were 15? Imagine if that just kept on going. Imagine if you never met that one guy. It is hard for women to understand. Also, imagine if your libido were about 3-4x what it is now. That's what T does to you. Of course it cripples us. I don't expect a woman to understand.

You are right that incels do not love themselves, but a lot of that is because they have some decent empirical evidence from their experiences to suggest that there is something wrong with them and that they are unlovable (at least by the people they encountered so far).
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Originally Posted By Fit1NYC⏩
I’m kinda fat bro no shame in my game
Serious question
It’s like minimal effort to improve your life experience
People keep complaining that they can’t meet women etc but pretty sure they aren’t dancing

I killed it at a party yesterday
Funny thing was I was getting social anxiety because everyone knew each other and was talking to each other and I was all alone
Had some drinks and a woman asked me to dance with her and her friend and get the dance party started and we danced a little then like 15 minutes later everyone joined us and the party got lit af
im sure
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
See i like country (been to plenty of country concerts) but i just can't dance like that. I've had girls try to get me to dance and the only way i can do it is to be extremely drunk. I think i look goofy and i'm too high inhibition idk. I just don't think men should be dancing.
Would you consider trying it?
You can also do country dance without a partner like line dancing which looks fun af
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post 1569067761 12-19-2018, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted By Rebel012⏩
1). The flaw in this reasoning is that you assume that interests, beliefs, preferences, and skills are primordial and immutable. This is false. You talk a lot about genetics, but the flip side of genetics is environment. People's preferences, interests, beliefs, and even IQ, can be altered or influenced by the environment and through effort. My preferences and interests have changed over the last ten years.

2). No one is suggesting you try or engage in something you have a complete aversion to. But stepping out of your comfort zone can have very pleasant unintended consequences.

3). A chick who loves to dance just enjoys a particular type of hobby. Nothing wrong with it. Again, if you just interacted with more chicks, you wouldn't have this unfounded and silly suspicion.

4). I'm no expert, but I'm guessing that these type of threads may not be good for your therapeutic progress. I would avoid.
I agree with you mostly, but there is a line. A lot of people tell incel/fa types to go lift, become more athletic, become more outgoing etc. While lifting is great for your health, if it isn't part of who you are and you have no interest in it, you won't keep doing it. A person can pretend to be outgoing, but their personality is unlikely to change, and it shouldn't necessarily change either. I'd imagine there are a LOT of people out there who have never set foot in a club and do not like them. The idea of becoming that kind of person if you aren't that person is more of a betrayal of the self than being cucked srsly. To turn your back on yourself in an attempt to "be cool" and popular with women is to literally cuck yourself.

That's not to say people shouldn't seek to improve themselves. But a person ought to learn to dance only if that is what they truly desire. The physical and sexual dancing of nature makes women who enjoy dance more likely to be promiscuous. This is simply by the idea that you have increased the collision and interaction frequency between humans of the opposite gender by dancing, and dancing is itself a kind of sexual signaling. I'd be very surprised if this weren't the case.
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Originally Posted By garthismad⏩
im sure
Nice try
I posted video yesterday

Anyway, wincel if I was that horny and couldn’t find a partner ID TAKE A DANCE CLASS
If I was that horny I’d learn to dance or get an escort
I don’t get people murdering and killing themselves and posting internet rants
Woth half that energy they can learn to dance and have fun

And sure there’s other classes to take like cooking or whatever but dance always comes up socially
Always

I already mentioned dodge ball and other adult sports leagues people can do
Seems like Incels choose actions to be Incels but believe it’s due to outside circumstances they can’t change
Also, relationships are a lot of stress so no need to feel bad about not having a partner just hire one for an hour lol
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Originally Posted By Fit1NYC⏩
Nice try
I posted video yesterday

Anyway, wincel if I was that horny and couldn’t find a partner ID TAKE A DANCE CLASS
If I was that horny I’d learn to dance or get an escort
I don’t get people murdering and killing themselves and posting internet rants
Woth half that energy they can learn to dance and have fun

And sure there’s other classes to take like cooking or whatever but dance always comes up socially
Always

I already mentioned dodge ball and other adult sports leagues people can do
Seems like Incels choose actions to be Incels but believe it’s due to outside circumstances they can’t change
Also, relationships are a lot of stress so no need to feel bad about not having a partner just hire one for an hour lol
You have to like being around groups of people to join these classes though. If you don't enjoy being around 20 other people and aren't going to be social what is the point?

Incels and FAs are just wired differently man
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
Dancing is cringe thats why

I mean how many men are just going to bust a move sober in some weird class lol
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Originally Posted By Fit1NYC⏩
Nice try
I posted video yesterday

Anyway, wincel if I was that horny and couldn’t find a partner ID TAKE A DANCE CLASS
If I was that horny I’d learn to dance or get an escort
I don’t get people murdering and killing themselves and posting internet rants
Woth half that energy they can learn to dance and have fun

And sure there’s other classes to take like cooking or whatever but dance always comes up socially
Always

I already mentioned dodge ball and other adult sports leagues people can do
Seems like Incels choose actions to be Incels but believe it’s due to outside circumstances they can’t change
Also, relationships are a lot of stress so no need to feel bad about not having a partner just hire one for an hour lol
I'm working on the negativity aspect of my mind. At some point, believe it or not, an incel's primary source of recreation becomes fantasizing about ways to die. I'm srs. I also have no desire to bang someone I do not love and who does not love me back. If they do not have feelings for me, it kills my interest really fast IRL. You are right that dancing is a good way to meet women. I am just arguing that dancing for an incel is a good way to meet women who are not the types he would be happy with (or who would be happy with him). And the most brutal truth of all is that there may not exist women who would be happy with him. That's the main reason why he is an incel. And, he just has to learn to live with that. That's the sad, honest truth about being incel. Some people reproduce, and some don't. Some are desirable and some are not. They told us everyone was worthy of respect and love in therapy. But the truth is that we, as a society, put some people to death. Some people are left to starve. Some are thrown in a cell and imprisoned. Society does not believe all lives are worthy of respect and love. If you have led a life void of respect and love, you can reasonably conclude that your genes will likely be purged from the pool. And you just have to find a way to live with that.

It is a difficult struggle for incels to find meaning in their existences. I just try to remind myself how important it is to keep struggling because there is nothing else. To die would be to guarantee failure, while to live still offers a glimmer, however faint, of hope.
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
You have to like being around groups of people to join these classes though. If you don't enjoy being around 20 other people and aren't going to be social what is the point?

Incels and FAs are just wired differently man
You can youtube at home
Or take a private lesson
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
I'm working on the negativity aspect of my mind. At some point, believe it or not, an incel's primary source of recreation becomes fantasizing about ways to die. I'm srs. I also have no desire to bang someone I do not love and who does not love me back. If they do not have feelings for me, it kills my interest really fast IRL. You are right that dancing is a good way to meet women. I am just arguing that dancing for an incel is a good way to meet women who are not the types he would be happy with (or who would be happy with him).
Oh man. You become what you think about bro. Try focusing on positivity and setting life goals and purpose and that will be sorted

Also damn you missing out bro. Casual sex is incredibly fun don’t miss out before your p stops working, and it will stop one day
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Originally Posted By Fit1NYC⏩
Oh man. You become what you think about bro. Try focusing on positivity and setting life goals and purpose and that will be sorted

Also damn you missing out bro. Casual sex is incredibly fun don’t miss out before your p stops working, and it will stop one day
I think casual sex is toxic. Women who have lots of casual sex end up terrible partners for marriage, and can never commit to a stable relationship. Deep down, they all feel used up because they are. And men who have casual sex end up reducing women to fleshlights. There is no real bond there. There's a reason pretty much every religion frowns upon casual sex. If everyone just freely mates, what ends up happening is Chad just womanizes and never forms any true attachment to women. He is forever unhappy and suffering. All the women trade around the same 5% of men and can never lock them down to be reliable fathers, and the rest of the men get cucked or remain incels. That's what life was like thousands of years ago.

I used to desire to have casual sex more than anything else, but now I realize it is a mistake. I even regret wasting my kisses and romantic experiences with women I knew. It was all a fuking waste because they weren't right for me.

Honestly, my p is for procreation. I couldn't care less anymore about sex. My main goal now is to obtain enough money someday to be able to buy a surrogate and an egg donor and to have IVF to spawn offspring.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
I think casual sex is toxic. Women who have lots of casual sex end up terrible partners for marriage, and can never commit to a stable relationship. Deep down, they all feel used up because they are. And men who have casual sex end up reducing women to fleshlights. There is no real bond there. There's a reason pretty much every religion frowns upon casual sex. If everyone just freely mates, what ends up happening is Chad just womanizes and never forms any true attachment to women. He is forever unhappy and suffering. All the women trade around the same 5% of men and can never lock them down to be reliable fathers, and the rest of the men get cucked or remain incels. That's what life was like thousands of years ago.

I used to desire to have casual sex more than anything else, but now I realize it is a mistake. I even regret wasting my kisses and romantic experiences with women I knew. It was all a fuking waste because they weren't right for me.

Honestly, my p is for procreation. I couldn't care less anymore about sex. My main goal now is to obtain enough money someday to be able to buy a surrogate and an egg donor and to have IVF to spawn offspring.
You seem really misguided and that makes me feel sorry. Have you ever had casual sex? Ever had sex at all? The reason why religions look down upon sex is because it’s a form of social control. Sex is the strongest drive and if a religion can make the only option for sex through marriage that religion has approved they can make people give them 10% of their money and force people to do whatever they say. Women being used up is simply not true. Sex is healthy and An important part of human relationships.

It’s been proven that most tribal societies were not monagaous and children had multiple fathers and everyone in the village treated the children like their own. That’s where the expression “it takes a village to raise a child comes from”

You’ve been so brainwashed by society I feel for you bro.
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because if incels had the confidence to join a dance class then they wouldnt be an incel with no friends lol
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Originally Posted By Fit1NYC⏩
You seem really misguided and that makes me feel sorry. Have you ever had casual sex? Ever had sex at all? The reason why religions look down upon sex is because it’s a form of social control. Sex is the strongest drive and if a religion can make the only option for sex through marriage that religion has approved they can make people give them 10% of their money and force people to do whatever they say. Women being used up is simply not true. Sex is healthy and An important part of human relationships.

It’s been proven that most tribal societies were not monagaous and children had multiple fathers and everyone in the village treated the children like their own. That’s where the expression “it takes a village to raise a child comes from”

You’ve been so brainwashed by society I feel for you bro.
Not all religions demand tithe. Yet, all major religions discourage casual sex, and sex outside of marriage. The reason is that social stability rests on female chastity. No chastity = female adultery = male competition = violence, death, and lots of fatherless kids. It really is that simple. Common folk were almost always monogamous while elites were polygynous. The wealthiest, most powerful men would be Chads and would generally have harems of wives. It has not been proven that most ancient societies were polygamous. That idea is often disputed, and it varies depending on the political affiliation of the anthropologist you ask. Nobody really knows for sure.

One thing I will ask is why, given hundreds of thousands of years of potential exploration of social constructs for sex and reproduction, the most successful societies had monogamy with de facto polygamy of the most elite men. There is probably a reason for that. You can't stop Chad, and you can't stop sloots from wanting Chad. But you can discourage slooting, and you can make it so that Chad must care for and support his offspring. That seems to be the best scenario. And in enforcing this, you can make it so that Lindas end up pairing off with the rest. Chastity promotes marital stability. The end result is a far better outcome.

With the advent of birth control, all of that is out the window. Chad can fuk everyone without impregnating them. All the sloots can bang Chad without getting preggers. I expect to see a great deal of social turmoil. Japan is in a severe crisis right now, and the US and parts of EU are rapidly following suit in some demographics. Interestingly, many in the developed world are foregoing reproduction entirely. They are literally fuking themselves to extinctions. A lot of women are afraid of pregnancy and getting fat. A lot of men get vasectomies to bang tons of sloots with no consequences. We live in a very strange time. Interestingly, the demographics that are starting to take over (in terms of population) and grow very rapidly are those that preserve monogamy and do not tend to use birth control much.

I think, ultimately, that the development of birth control will lead to increased male competition and struggles for dominance reproductively. I suspect that the notion of marriage will disappear almost entirely. We will see unstable families, a huge surge in crime (particularly rape and murder), and prominent males will keep harems of women. When society finally discards promiscuity and the word "slut" as an insult, we will enter this age. It will be a really miserable time for everyone. You are going to see increased financial and sexual inequality. It is possible that a counter conservative movement will try to swing it back to balance. I suspect this is why Islam is still growing and spreading so rapidly globally.

I really don't know what the solution is. You can try to keep the social norms intact, but human biology will ultimately dictate the actions of people. The world is probably going to end up a socialist muslim/fundamentalist christian chithole one day.
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I feel awkward enough in normal every day interactions that I don't intentionally go out of my way to exacerbate/feel that way more than necessary. Dancing is the most cringworthy/awkward chit one can engage in. I have no idea how anyone considers it to be otherwise, and I refuse to engage in activities that make me look like an even bigger doofus than I normally do.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
I feel awkward enough in normal every day interactions that I don't intentionally go out of my way to exacerbate/feel that way more than necessary. Dancing is the most cringworthy/awkward chit one can engage in. I have no idea how anyone considers it to be otherwise, and I refuse to engage in activities that make me look like an even bigger doofus than I normally do.
You just nailed your problem
I’m a terrible dancer but don’t care what others think
I just have fun
Life is too short to think about the opinions of strangers
Thanks for your answers though
Hope you treat yourself to an escort
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Because if 99% of incels had the ability to dance without fear of disapproval or how they appear to other people, they wouldn't be incels. The reason they are incel is likely the same reason they would be unable to let loose at a party or club or can't communicate with people in a relaxed, sociable manner.

I've always said that nothing can compete with dancing in terms of sexually attractive talents. Singing or musical ability would be like 1b at best with dancing as 1a.

Dancing can be directly sexual in nature depending on the style, but it is always subconsciously communicating low inhibition. A woman sees a man letting loose on the dance floor and they are not only getting a preview of how he may be able to perform in the bedroom based on his dancing abilities, but they are subliminally being told that this man is low inhib and will do sh!t like take the lead or spank your ass during sex. Women want a man who is not afraid in the bedroom.
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Originally Posted By BostonRockets⏩
Because if 99% of incels had the ability to dance without fear of disapproval or how they appear to other people, they wouldn't be incels. The reason they are incel is likely the same reason they would be unable to let loose at a party or club or can't communicate with people in a relaxed, sociable manner.

I've always said that nothing can compete with dancing in terms of sexually attractive talents. Singing or musical ability would be like 1b at best with dancing as 1a.

Dancing can be directly sexual in nature depending on the style, but it is always subconsciously communicating low inhibition. A woman sees a man letting loose on the dance floor and they are not only getting a preview of how he may be able to perform in the bedroom based on his dancing abilities, but they are subliminally being told that this man is low inhib and will do sh!t like take the lead or spank your ass during sex. Women want a man who is not afraid in the bedroom.
Anyone can reinvent themselves any day they choose
Dancing is easy way to take advantage of 80/20 rule
Most men can’t dance and don’t
Learning how to dance well puts you in the top 20 percent
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post 1569075581 12-19-2018, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted By Fit1NYC⏩
You just nailed your problem
Ok.
Originally Posted By Fit1NYC⏩
I’m a terrible dancer but don’t care what others think
Good for you. By this thought process, awkwardness doesn't exist outside ones own mind, and ones own level of "givafuk" towards the opinions of others. Great. You can't choose to not feel awkward. You can't choose not to care what other people think. Here's how it works: You start dancing, and immediately feel like a fukcing retard, so you stop. You didn't choose to feel like a retard, you just "do".
Originally Posted By Fit1NYC⏩
I just have fun
But it objectively isn't fun. It's awkward. Even if it weren't awkward, I still don't see any appeal in it as an activity in general. It's people twirling around or stomping their feet. Whatever floats your boat I guess?
Originally Posted By Fit1NYC⏩
Life is too short to think about the opinions of strangers
Refer to my 2nd response.
Originally Posted By Fit1NYC⏩
Hope you treat yourself to an escort
What would that solve? Not being able to get laid isn't what bothers me, what bothers me is being completely abhorrent to the opposite sex, and having no recourse. A woman paid to sleep with me is doing a job, she doesn't really like me, and the next day (or even the next hour) she'll be gone, having been paid for services rendered. I'm not a virgin anyway, and losing my virginity solved precisely nothing. I still can't approach women. I still don't have any interests in common with them. Hopefully as I get older I won't care anymore.
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Originally Posted By BostonRockets⏩
Because if 99% of incels had the ability to dance without fear of disapproval or how they appear to other people, they wouldn't be incels. The reason they are incel is likely the same reason they would be unable to let loose at a party or club or can't communicate with people in a relaxed, sociable manner.

I've always said that nothing can compete with dancing in terms of sexually attractive talents. Singing or musical ability would be like 1b at best with dancing as 1a.

Dancing can be directly sexual in nature depending on the style, but it is always subconsciously communicating low inhibition. A woman sees a man letting loose on the dance floor and they are not only getting a preview of how he may be able to perform in the bedroom based on his dancing abilities, but they are subliminally being told that this man is low inhib and will do sh!t like take the lead or spank your ass during sex. Women want a man who is not afraid in the bedroom.
We don't like to dance. I don't even like hip hop or country music. Will only dance to trance or metal crew. Not dancing to low test country or hip hop music ever.



edit i like country music but not slow dancing to that chit
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