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Thread: UFC 232 DISCUSSION THREAD: Jones vs Gustafsson 2

post 1569851441 12-29-2018, 10:46 PM
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Bro who actually thought Gus was going to pose a problem; I didn't even have to guess here


JJ is gifted, I saw 1st round how he stopped that takedown attempt and elbow'd ole boy his confidence was growing and that was the beginning of the end

Smart how he targeted that leg bcuz he could've kept kicking at it and winning a la Jose Aldo


There's no one else at 205 other than DC whom already lost 2x even to the point where he was legit crying lol

Jones is just gifted, some ppl just are born with the right talent and with the right drive they reach their potential


That said, can't believe Anderson Silva and Jones both used PEDs goes to show how helpful PEDs are for recovery and training

Just goes to show how competitive it is at that level
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GOAT Jones is playing 3D chess, the rest of the UFC roster is still stuck playing tic tac toe


Accept it you mouth breathing dorks, he’s the goat
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post 1569851511 12-29-2018, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted By TonyTriangles⏩
205 is his weight class. He beat DC twice at 205; nothing to prove going up
Joe didn't jam it down his throat. He just asked him what do you want to do next. And he brought up DC - keep his name out of your mouth if you're not going to go to HW especially when you were cheating in every previous fight and actively cheating.
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post 1569851521 12-29-2018, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted By QuitYourCrying⏩
I found it corny and cringe-inducing.
Is it possible that you're allowing your hatred of the man to get in the way of your ability to objectively gauge the situation?
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post 1569851531 12-29-2018, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted By TonyTriangles⏩
205 is his weight class. He beat DC twice at 205; nothing to prove going up
You contradicted yourself.

If he has nothing to prove at 205, why is he calling out Cormier for 205?

Heavyweight is Cormier's natural weight class and he's the current heavyweight champ.
post 1569851681 12-29-2018, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted By DrewDarden⏩
Is it possible that you're allowing your hatred of the man to get in the way of your ability to objectively gauge the situation?
More likely that your love for him is clouding your judgement.

I predicted Jones would win this fight. Even called the round and that it would be by TKO due to strikes on the ground. I just call 'em as I see 'em.
post 1569851701 12-29-2018, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted By enzo818⏩
I agree. He has great fighting intelligence. Reminds me of mayweather in boxing. Very tactical. Whereas Cyborg fights on her instincts once she gets clipped.
Jones was being smart; he knew what gus is capable of. Instead of running in and throwing elbows, he neutralized the threat, taking out legs and keeping outside of punching range. He was unpredictable with his strikes, kicking high and low, and throwing body shots. He fought smart and capitalized on Gus’ mistakes.
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post 1569851721 12-29-2018, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted By DrewDarden⏩
Chael had some of the greatest interviews, but "you absolutely suck" doesn't even come close to "daddy's home."
It reminded me of Rockhold telling GSP not to come up to middleweight, aside from the daddys home line
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post 1569851761 12-29-2018, 10:50 PM
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Anyone else bored of all the rematches in UFC?
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Originally Posted By QuitYourCrying⏩
Jones looked average. Gus is a mediocre fighter and this was an especially mediocre performance.
I thought Jones looked good. Gus looked like **** however.

Jones is still a cheat and i hate seeing him be successful. But I blame the UFC and others more than Jones.
post 1569851791 12-29-2018, 10:51 PM
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gus doesnt have enough weapons.. simple as that.
you need to have a kicking game and a grappling game thats good enough to threat jones.
you cant just have that boxing attack the whole time.
Sad to see that happen
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It didn't matter if Jones won or lost, his previous test were going to come up no matter what.
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post 1569851991 12-29-2018, 10:55 PM
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I can't think of an interesting fight for Jones at 205 other than DC

Look at the top 10, nobody really can challenge him
post 1569852021 12-29-2018, 10:56 PM
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Feeling bad for Cat Zingano crew

Anyone have gifs of her bouncing around pre fight tonight? You know, ....... For science?
post 1569852041 12-29-2018, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted By Mr.PissShivers⏩
It wasn't a double wrist lock/ kimura

It wasn't a key lock....This is a key lock:




Though it started out as a DWL to get the arm in position it ended up as a hammerlock/chicken wing variation
Here is a gif of Chiesa's hammer lock:


They call it a kimura but its not.

And here is a gif Phil Davis with the same hammer lock just not as horrific:
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post 1569852091 12-29-2018, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted By Vayne⏩
It didn't matter if Jones won or lost, his previous test were going to come up no matter what.
And every fight he faces from today and til he retires will always have an asterisk because he pissed hot in the past.
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post 1569852141 12-29-2018, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted By TonyTriangles⏩
And every fight he faces from today and til he retires will always have an asterisk because he pissed hot in the past.
He also pissed hot for this fight.
post 1569852191 12-29-2018, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted By Kokanee⏩
I thought Jones looked good. Gus looked like **** however.

Jones is still a cheat and i hate seeing him be successful. But I blame the UFC and others more than Jones.
lol. stop hating. he is clean. And before you sya im dick riding riding jones. Big Gus is my third favorite fighter.
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post 1569852241 12-29-2018, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted By NinjaNoir⏩
lol. stop hating. he is clean. And before you sya im dick riding riding jones. Big Gus is my third favorite fighter.
Your reasoning skills are nonexistent if you believe he is clean.
post 1569852341 12-29-2018, 11:02 PM
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gus fight career is over it sucke he beat jone the first time jones ducked him for years best years are way behind gus
post 1569852461 12-29-2018, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted By sloop⏩
Feeling bad for Cat Zingano crew

Anyone have gifs of her bouncing around pre fight tonight? You know, ....... For science?
they said she's ok was eyelid not retina

shes fine
post 1569852531 12-29-2018, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted By Mr.PissShivers⏩
Here is a gif of Chiesa's hammer lock:


They call it a kimura but its not.

And here is a gif Phil Davis with the same hammer lock just not as horrific:
Ah, I see.
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Originally Posted By QuitYourCrying⏩
You contradicted yourself.

If he has nothing to prove at 205, why is he calling out Cormier for 205?

Heavyweight is Cormier's natural weight class and he's the current heavyweight champ.
lmao no it's not, he's just fatter now
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Originally Posted By BOZZ⏩
I actually believe Jones is clean. Clear difference in his physique tonight than in the past. Then again he's only got 3 months in VADA so he'll be blown back up by his next fight
VADA just started testing him like a week ago.
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Originally Posted By TheIronAsylum⏩
gus fight career is over it sucke he beat jone the first time jones ducked him for years best years are way behind gus
My favorite fight of all time, but Jones wasnt even at 80% that fight. Jones never ducked him. Gus can still compete. No one is matching him except for jones. Gus can beat DC. He can go down a weight class too. He has plenty of body fat on him that can be cut.
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Originally Posted By NinjaNoir⏩
My favorite fight of all time, but Jones wasnt even at 80% that fight. Jones never ducked him. Gus can still compete. No one is matching him except for jones. Gus can beat DC. He can go down a weight class too. He has plenty of body fat on him that can be cut.
I think Reyes beats Gus, but not Jones.
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Originally Posted By Kokanee⏩
Your reasoning skills are nonexistent if you believe he is clean.
go listen to the Jeff Novitsy podcast with Rogan from this week. He makes a very convincing argument that Jones is clean. He was the most tested athlete of UFC this last year.

The thing is the labs that do the tests test beyond the ranges that WADA even calls for. Typically you only test to nanograms but in an effort for these private labs to try and stand out amongst each other they say "oh yeah well we can test for even smaller amounts!" But the amounts are so tiny they are 100% not giving any performance enhancing benefits IF they're even there at all. There's a +/- range of statistical error. The amount Jon tested positive for isn't even sanctionable by WADA. And the microdosing argument doesn't make sense for what he tested for.

There's more to it then that but against forum rules to discuss in depth.
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Originally Posted By SompletelyCober⏩
DC might actually kill himself if Jones moves up to HW and takes his belt there lmao

Imagine this guy crying for a third time over losing to the GOAT and having the man he hates more than anything take everything from him. If DC is smart he won't take this fight no matter how much money the UFC offers him. I don't care if they give him 15 mil it won't be worth the permanent mental trauma he will suffer for the rest of his life.
DC has a lot more to gain than he has to lose. He would absolutely take the fight at HW, but I'm sure he woudl stipulate that no steroid metabolites are allowed.
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Originally Posted By adamsz⏩
go listen to the Jeff Novitsy podcast with Rogan from this week. He makes a very convincing argument that Jones is clean. He was the most tested athlete of UFC this last year.

The thing is the labs that do the tests test beyond the ranges that WADA even calls for. Typically you only test to nanograms but in an effort for these private labs to try and stand out amongst each other they say "oh yeah well we can test for even smaller amounts!" But the amounts are so tiny they are 100% not giving any performance enhancing benefits IF they're even there at all. There's a +/- range of statistical error. The amount Jon tested positive for isn't even sanctionable by WADA. And the microdosing argument doesn't make sense for what he tested for.

There's more to it then that but against forum rules to discuss in depth.
I've actually worked in a Biology lab before and have published scientific research, which is more than Nowitzky can say. I'm also a medical resident. Jeff himself admitted that he is an accountant and not a scientist. Jones is dirty and, if you have access to all of the information I do and still deny that, I'm not going to bother trying to convince you.
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Originally Posted By BOZZ⏩
I actually believe Jones is clean. Clear difference in his physique tonight than in the past. Then again he's only got 3 months in VADA so he'll be blown back up by his next fight
Interesting.. There's many pics out where Jones is clearly on supplements, but in terms of in-octagon appearance, Jones looked in the best shape I've seem him tonight. At least on par with his last fight against DC

Ufc should finally book that Jones/Stipe match.. or Brock. Byt one of those 2 please
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