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post 1571194621 01-14-2019, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash
Lots of big strong tough guys ITT who are afraid of 12 year old girls
1. It wasn't just the big guy, but his wife and kid.
2. Kids can be fuking vicious. I know a gym teacher who got kicked in the knee by a 10 year old little chit and needed surgery to repair that chit.
3. Why should he be forced to run away from people physically attacking him?
4. She instigated -> He used force to generate space. -> She came back ready to fight -> situation ended.
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A lot of people are saying the guy is in the wrong, and maybe he is BUT you can see his wife and kids sitting behind him.

It's your wife and kids behind you and a bunch of teens are getting aggressive af, what do?
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Originally Posted By Austanian
1. It wasn't just the big guy, but his wife and kid.
2. Kids can be fuking vicious. I know a gym teacher who got kicked in the knee by a 10 year old little chit and needed surgery to repair that chit.
3. Why should he be forced to run away from people physically attacking him?
4. She instigated -> He used force to generate space. -> She came back ready to fight -> situation ended.
She didn't physically attack the guy, He pushed her...and then punched her. The situation didn't even concern him, it was a back and forth amongst the kids, and he decided to tell the kids to leave.
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Originally Posted By RushEm
so misc is defending hitting children now...
She looks like she could pass for 20 tbh from the video (which is chitty quality of peace) he had no way of knowing how old they were, maybe she looks young which would make it fcked up but it's pretty hard to tell

The only reason this story is causing uproar is because of the age, which he had no idea. Take age out of it and it's pretty cut and dry. Girl looks like she's scrapped before and threw those hands up like Mayweather ready to take out Andre the Giant

But I can guarantee, she learned a hard lesson and will think twice about doing that again!
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I don't feel sorry for that girl for trying to fight him. But yeah, it was too excessive considering the size and weight difference.
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Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja
She didn't physically attack the guy, He pushed her...and then punched her. The situation didn't even concern him, it was a back and forth amongst the kids, and he decided to tell the kids to leave.
She pushed him in the back to begin the video granded little force generated. He pushed her hard to get space and she came back hands up ready to fight.

Unfortunately the video is trimmed so we don't have what really happened.

I browsed through the reddit thread and got that back story... However, intervening in a confrontation could mean ANYTHING.
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Originally Posted By Austanian
1. It wasn't just the big guy, but his wife and kid.
2. Kids can be fuking vicious. I know a gym teacher who got kicked in the knee by a 10 year old little chit and needed surgery to repair that chit.
3. Why should he be forced to run away from people physically attacking him?
4. She instigated -> He used force to generate space. -> She came back ready to fight -> situation ended.
Weird how we're holding a 12 year old to a higher standard than an adult and how they've suddenly become martial weapons.
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I can't wait to hear her story when it goes to trial. "My friends and I were buying bibles before we went to church when this vicious man attacked me!"

Nah.

Perhaps he was wrong for hitting her with a closed fist? Would slapping her have been a more acceptable alternative? But seriously what are you supposed to do when surrounded by a group like that and confronting an aggressive individual who is confident enough to push you starting a physical confrontation, then comes at you when you push them away? Are you allowed to start physical confrontations when you are under 18? Or when you are a woman? Or do you gotta have both victim cards (young and female) to be allowed to do that? Srs what constitutes the reason she is allowed to start a physical confrontation but not be responsible for her actions? Seems to me if it was a 14 y/o dude no one would blame the old guy for doing that.


I swear liberals can justify any bad behavior these days.
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post 1571197151 01-14-2019, 08:29 PM
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Ouch. Pretty excessive on one hand. On the other, I feel no sympathy for anyone that acts like that and gets what they had coming.
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lol. her group is talking too damn much. shut the fukk up lol. also he should have remained calm and only punched if (and when) the girl starting coming at him
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M
I can't wait to hear her story when it goes to trial. "My friends and I were buying bibles before we went to church when this vicious man attacked me!"

Nah.

Perhaps he was wrong for hitting her with a closed fist? Would slapping her have been a more acceptable alternative? But seriously what are you supposed to do when surrounded by a group like that and confronting an aggressive individual who is confident enough to push you starting a physical confrontation, then comes at you when you push them away? Are you allowed to start physical confrontations when you are under 18? Or when you are a woman? Or do you gotta have both victim cards (young and female) to be allowed to do that? Srs what constitutes the reason she is allowed to start a physical confrontation but not be responsible for her actions? Seems to me if it was a 14 y/o dude no one would blame the old guy for doing that.


I swear liberals can justify any bad behavior these days.
Here is a revolutionary idea; don't put yourself in that situation.

lol @ this tough guy
post 1571198021 01-14-2019, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash
Here is a revolutionary idea; don't put yourself in that situation.

lol @ this tough guy
Lmao you must be on the spectrum bruh. So you agree the best way to deal with a bully is with words too huh? To deal with a criminal breaking into your home is to tell them to go away too right?

When men stop fighting for what is right you know you are on a bad path. When weak men start tolerating with criminal behavior telling others to turn a blind eye you know you are screwed.
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash
Weird how we're holding a 12 year old to a higher standard than an adult and how they've suddenly become martial weapons.
Trying to "gently restrain" someone intent on doing you harm is a pain in the fuking ass. Kick the the knee, biting, eye gouging. That chit isn't a joke. Neither is dealing with masses of people at once particularly when you are holding back and they aren't.
post 1571199511 01-14-2019, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M
Lmao you must be on the spectrum bruh. So you agree the best way to deal with a bully is with words too huh? To deal with a criminal breaking into your home is to tell them to go away too right?

When men stop fighting for what is right you know you are on a bad path. When weak men start tolerating with criminal behavior telling others to turn a blind eye you know you are screwed.
Didn't know that this 12 year old girl also broke into this man's home.

lol @ your posturing. So TOUGH!

You're the toughest guy on this forum!

As an aside, though, the cognitive dissonance in your post is astounding.
Originally Posted By Austanian
Trying to "gently restrain" someone intent on doing you harm is a pain in the fuking ass. Kick the the knee, biting, eye gouging. That chit isn't a joke. Neither is dealing with masses of people at once particularly when you are holding back and they aren't.
You're right, it's not a joke. He inserted himself into a situation that he couldn't handle properly.

He shouldn't have pushed her, and she shouldn't have come at him, but at 12 years old you don't think like an adult. He fukked up by making that first physical aggressive contact.

No idea how you guys are out here pretending like there isn't a large part of your faculties left undeveloped at 12.
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash
Didn't know that this 12 year old girl also broke into this man's home.

lol @ your posturing. So TOUGH!

You're the toughest guy on this forum!



You're right, it's not a joke. He inserted himself into a situation that he couldn't handle properly.

He shouldn't have pushed her, and she shouldn't have come at him, but at 12 years old you don't think like an adult. He fukked up by making that first physical aggressive contact.

No idea how you guys are out here pretending like there isn't a large part of your faculties left undeveloped at 12.
How was he supposed to know her age?

Also a lot of adults don't think like adults
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Originally Posted By nn586
How was he supposed to know her age?

Also a lot of adults don't think like adults
These are not sound counter arguments, even though the second statement is a true statement.

As an adult you are held to a higher standard.

You have been alive long enough that you should know the consequences of your actions.

Things become less acceptable with age because of the experience that comes with it.
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I'd love to sit on his jury. I'd laugh in the prosecutors face when he reads the charges. That was clearly self defense.
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Originally Posted By Kev1972
I'd love to sit on his jury. I'd laugh in the prosecutors face when he reads the charges. That was clearly self defense.
Good thing you're not making any important decisions any time soon.
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Isnโ€™t dude like 6โ€™4 250 and homegirl is 5โ€™3 110...
Equal rights, equal fights, bro.
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash
Didn't know that this 12 year old girl also broke into this man's home.

lol @ your posturing. So TOUGH!

You're the toughest guy on this forum!



You're right, it's not a joke. He inserted himself into a situation that he couldn't handle properly.

He shouldn't have pushed her, and she shouldn't have come at him, but at 12 years old you don't think like an adult. He fukked up by making that first physical aggressive contact.

No idea how you guys are out here pretending like there isn't a large part of your faculties left undeveloped at 12.
lol why are you so unhinged? Were you stupid enough to get in a grown man's face as a 12 year old? No of course not because you probably had enough instinct to realize it would be bad for your health. This girl has been treated with the kid gloves so to speak(I know I have to explain this because obviously no one else punched this kid with any gloves- but you seem to take everything literal for some reason) so she thought it was safe to act like a fool and wouldn't suffer the consequences. And on that day ^ she was wrong.
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash
You're right, it's not a joke. He inserted himself into a situation that he couldn't handle properly.

He shouldn't have pushed her, and she shouldn't have come at him, but at 12 years old you don't think like an adult. He fukked up by making that first physical aggressive contact.

No idea how you guys are out here pretending like there isn't a large part of your faculties left undeveloped at 12.
We have no idea what his "insertion" looked like nor what the initial confrontation looked like.

Being stupid and undeveloped isn't an excuse. The only reason this happened was cause this little chit thought he wouldn't hit her and that she could do whatever they wanted.
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Eh

Excessive, but the kid(s) learned a valuable lesson about not engaging in violence against people who are 4x your size. Most animals know that chit instinctively
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M
lol why are you so unhinged? Were you stupid enough to get in a grown man's face as a 12 year old? No of course not because you probably had enough instinct to realize it would be bad for your health. This girl has been treated with the kid gloves so to speak(I know I have to explain this because obviously no one else punched this kid with any gloves- but you seem to take everything literal for some reason) so she thought it was safe to act like a fool and wouldn't suffer the consequences. And on that day ^ she was wrong.

Perhaps your parents taught you differently, but my parents taught me to respect my elders and quite frankly I'd never have the gall to get in an older individuals face male or female especially if I was in the wrong to begin with. How many times at age 12 did you square up on an older person as a bunch of your friends watch?

I think the reason question is why are these kids out unsupervised?
Lmfao at potentially having to explain something that doesn't need an explanation.

The guy was ****ed up for Frazier'ing that person like that, and the chick was ****ed up for approaching him to punch him, but the man is more at fault. He's an adult and knows that what he did isn't acceptable. It'd be a different story if she attacked him unprovoked. Also, I like the form on the punch. Nice, solid follow through.
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if he was a thug, no one would scream anything cuz they don't want to be 6 feet under. knowwhatimsayin?
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash
Didn't know that this 12 year old girl also broke into this man's home.

lol @ your posturing. So TOUGH!

You're the toughest guy on this forum!

As an aside, though, the cognitive dissonance in your post is astounding.



You're right, it's not a joke. He inserted himself into a situation that he couldn't handle properly.

He shouldn't have pushed her, and she shouldn't have come at him, but at 12 years old you don't think like an adult. He fukked up by making that first physical aggressive contact.

No idea how you guys are out here pretending like there isn't a large part of your faculties left undeveloped at 12.
The second video shows her pushing him first, but what the fuk is he doing standing in the middle of a bunch of screaming kids in the first place? After the push, he stands around while the kids talks chit. Basic schoolyard chit, which makes sense, since they're 6th graders. There's a good deal of nothing happening before he pushes her, she comes back to scream in his face, and then he knocks her the fuk out. It's more of a "fuk this little kunt, I'm going to fuk her up for daring to get in my face" than any kind of self-defense.

But it's the misc. What can you expect?
Originally Posted By nn586
How was he supposed to know her age?

Also a lot of adults don't think like adults
It's pretty clear from the second video that everyone there isn't even high school age.
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Originally Posted By Austanian
We have no idea what his "insertion" looked like nor what the initial confrontation looked like.

Being stupid and undeveloped isn't an excuse. The only reason this happened was cause this little chit thought he wouldn't hit her and that she could do whatever they wanted.
Would rep. ****ing hate when people come down and judge the entire situation without seeing what happened to start the whole thing. Going by JUST the first few seconds, the media will blame him because he's an adult and should know better, though.
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M
lol why are you so unhinged? Were you stupid enough to get in a grown man's face as a 12 year old? No of course not because you probably had enough instinct to realize it would be bad for your health. This girl has been treated with the kid gloves so to speak(I know I have to explain this because obviously no one else punched this kid with any gloves- but you seem to take everything literal for some reason) so she thought it was safe to act like a fool and wouldn't suffer the consequences. And on that day ^ she was wrong.
To be completely honest with you, part of me is enjoying causing the rustle here. I am also enjoying the display of cognitive dissonance at play as well.

I've stated before that she shouldn't have done that.

However, as an adult, his mistake weighs more. It's not self-defense if he's the first person to make it physical and he could have left that altercation at any point.

One of the most important things I've learned in my life is that some fights are not worth it, and I'm half this guy's age. So where does that leave us with him?

You can't ignore that fact.

This is why he was wrong for this. Because he made physical contact first, and then decked her. That's on him.
Originally Posted By Austanian
We have no idea what his "insertion" looked like nor what the initial confrontation looked like.

Being stupid and undeveloped isn't an excuse. The only reason this happened was cause this little chit thought he wouldn't hit her and that she could do whatever they wanted
Didn't you come in claiming that he had a righteous backstory?

If we're just looking at video context, there were several points that he could have de-escalated and/or left.

Just as an FYI to anybody, it's not self-defense if you attack first.

He attacked first.

It's really that simple.

I never said the kid was right. I was trying to explain how much more wrong and unnecessary the actions of the adult were. In doing so, I probably rustled anybody who said "I'd do the same thing!" Because deep down you know it was wrong, and it was a stupid game played for a stupid prize.

Knocking out a 12 year old girl is not anything anybody should be proud of.

The weakest actions are the ones that require the least effort.
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I would have restrained her, asked where her dad was, and gone down to the prison to slap him around.
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Originally Posted By seanb1979
I would have restrained her, asked where her dad was, and gone down to the prison to slap him around.
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Dude was surrounded by hyenas. He made the wrong decision but she didn't help either. If you don't teach your kids manners then somebody else will and he certainly did.

Promise you she won't do that chit again. Bish will have nightmares for the rest of her life.

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